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	Name:	Talullahhound -
	Subject:	Strange but,
	Date:	5/13/2009 10:29:20 PM

I think Cheney is overstating the case. I don't think we are safer, and I don't think we will ever be safer. We've been lucky that we haven't had another attack, and frankly, I think it's primarily because of beefed up border security and general awareness of what to look for.
Remember, there was one field agent that noticed an increase in middle east aviation students and he tried to let people know and no one paid any attention to it. Bet that wouldn't happen now.

I think the Bush Administration was right to pour money into intelligence and seek to rebuild our humit sources. The Clinton Administation did us a huge disservice.
I have no real idea if torture (or "enhanced" interrogation)on the whole got us more actionable intelligence. I'm sure it did in a couple of cases, but I really think that you get more from a well developed humit network.

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Why I voted Democrat - water_watcher - 5/12/2009 7:52:53 PM

Why I voted Democrat - Talullahhound - 5/12/2009 8:46:57 PM

Hound I kinda like you, but - alahusker - 5/12/2009 9:11:01 PM

Hound I kinda like you, but - alahusker - 5/12/2009 9:20:56 PM

Hound I kinda like you, but - Talullahhound - 5/13/2009 8:50:09 AM

If you like transparency - MartiniMan - 5/13/2009 9:12:58 AM

Forgot one other item - MartiniMan - 5/13/2009 10:27:08 AM

Strange but, - alahusker - 5/13/2009 10:40:40 AM

Strange but, - alahusker - 5/13/2009 10:52:56 AM

Strange but, - Talullahhound - 5/13/2009 10:29:20 PM

Strange but, - MartiniMan - 5/14/2009 9:53:27 AM

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