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Name:   copperline - Email Member
Subject:   Increasing suicide rate among the military
Date:   1/23/2013 10:47:53 AM

Recently reading that there has been an increase in the suicide rate among active duty troops, specifically that more servicemen (and women?) took their own lives in 2011 than the number that died in Afghanistan.   (349 suicides vs 295 KiA in Afghanistan).  Also that the rate has risen over 2011 numbers when only 301 suicides were reported.  

Those numbers are really troubling to me, and i was wondering what accounts for the increase.

Another interesting statement comes from iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America, indicating that nearly half of eligible ex-service members who served in iraq or Afghanistan are snubbing free, federal health care they earned in uniform because many harbor “huge mistrust” of the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs.   it may be that these people are afraid to seek treatment in part because they fear being labeled as mentally unstable.

On the flip side, the Pentagon says that its suicide rate remains lower than that of America's civilian population. The AP cites the Pentagon as saying "the civilian suicide rate for males aged 17-60 was 25 per 100,000 in 2010, the latest year for which such statistics are available. That compares with the military's rate in 2012 of 17.5 per 100,000."

is the increase in suicides something to be concerned about, or is it statistically insignificant?   And if it is important, what is causing the increased rates?   i’d be interested in hearing the opinions of people with military backgrounds as well as the rest of us.





Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   My opinion for what its worth
Date:   1/23/2013 11:03:18 AM

I don't think the suicide rate vis-a-vis the general population is as much the issue as is the increased rate we are seeing.  People in the military make incredible sacrifices and while it is indeed good news that the rate is lower than the comparable general population it is disturbing to see it increase as of late.

They need to get to the bottom of it to determine whether it is job related, recruitment related or whatever and respond appropriately.  This may at the end of the day be more of a culture/societal problem than a military specific problem but that's what they need to figure out.  If it is the former then I am not sure there is much they can do to change the culture and may only be able to identify vulnerable people and attempt to weed them out during the recruitment process.  However, that clearly doesn't solve the broader cultural issues which are equally disturbing to me.



Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   Increasing suicide rate among the military
Date:   1/23/2013 11:38:59 AM

I never went through anything like what our current forces have been asked to do, but there are a few possibilities. I used to deploy to pull alert duty for a week to 10 days at a whack, leaving at home my wife and two grade-schoolers. She had to deal with everything while I was gone bbecause she couldn't just pick up a phone and call. She had to make the day to day decisions....yet when I returned I tended to want to pick up where I left off. That created tension because I expected things to be just as they were, and she had trouble adapting to being expected to be the boss while I was gone, and my expecting to bne the boss when I returned. Another possibility is that the deployed service member returns to find that his wife (or her huisband) succunbed to temptations of the flesh, and for some that led to divorce. Even another possibility is that these service members experience the depression associated with returning from a highlevel of activity, stress, and danger to what they might consider a very boring existence. Finally, there is PTSD. The horrors of war do terrible things to some people, and some just can't handle it. There was an outstanding youth soccer coach in Montgomery who was a Viet Nam vet. He suffered from PTSD to the point that at least 15 years after Viet Nam was over he could no longer handle the nightmares and flashbacks and committed suicide. As a member of what other services like to call the "Chair Force" I never was stationed in an assignment that required direct combat, but have talked with many that have. I realize that this is just the observation of one person who is not a mental health professional nor do I have any specialized knowledge or insight.







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