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GoneFishin
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From FOX
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8/23/2021 12:59:02 AM
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As of Aug. 7, unvaccinated adults between 18 and 49 years old were 25 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 than vaccinated adults of the same age. It's not as simple to measure the number of times more likely this unvaccinated demographic is to die from the disease because there have been "virtually no deaths in vaccinated members of this age group," according to Public Health officials.
Meanwhile, unvaccinated adults over age 50 were nearly a dozen times more likely to be hospitalized than their vaccinated counterparts, and 17 times more likely to die.
Get Vaccinated
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MartiniMan
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From MartiniMan
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8/23/2021 10:45:17 AM
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I read the study from NY and have a few salient observations. There were a total of 1,271 hospitalizations of vaccinated versus 7,308 for the invaccinated during the study period (May 3-July 25). On a population basis this equates to 0.17 per 100,000 for vaccinated versus 2.03 per 100,000 for unvaccinated. Sounds bad right? Not so much. From the beginning we've known that the vaccine reduces hospitalizations so this is not surprising. So does Ivermectin and a number of other effective treatments. But what is important to understand is that your chances of being hospitalized regardless of vaccine status is incredibly low. Even the vaccinated chances of being hospitalized is 0.002% (2.03/100,000*100). And as the study discussed, the rates of hospitalizations of vaccinated and unvaccinated are rising slightly for both groups but the vast majority of the hospitalizations for either group are over age 65. No surpise there. And in the study the mean age of those that died was 82 years. None of this is news and it only confirms what I have been saying all along, if you are elderly or have health issues it is clearly worth taking a chance on the gene therapy. The benefits outweigh the risks.....everyone else, not so much. Children not at all. And as with almost every virus, it has mutated to be more contagious and less deadly.
So unless you are a scientist and actually read the study you would probably freak out and rush out to get the experimental gene therapy when in reality the study demonstrates that if you are under age 65 and have no co-morbidities you are at virtually no risk of being hospitalized or dying. And the difference between the two groups will be less and less every day as the vaccine effectiveness continues to wane. Your odds of being hospitalized from the ChiCom Facui virus whether you are vaccinated or unvaccinated are lower than getting killed in a car accident. And for children the odds are lower than your lifetime odds of getting struck by lightning.
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GoneFishin
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Good News
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8/23/2021 10:47:55 AM
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BREAKING NEWS
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Monday, August 23, 2021 9:38 AM EST
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The decision will set off a cascade of vaccine requirements by hospitals, colleges, corporations and other organizations.
The approval comes as the nation’s fight against the pandemic has intensified again, with the highly infectious Delta variant reversing much of the progress that the country had made over the first half of the year.
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CRD
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From FOX
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8/23/2021 11:10:59 AM
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From a colleague of mine in central TN, the Nashville VA demographic of COVID hospitalization is 40% for those fully vaccinated and the rate is quite similar at Vandy with over double the numbers. Hunker down guys.
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phil
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From FOX
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8/23/2021 11:23:19 AM
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But something Fox, Trump, Republican, time travel, blah blah said something or thought something...
For someone who spends most of his time talking bad about Fox news, why would he care what they say, I dont.
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MartiniMan
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Good News
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8/23/2021 11:58:00 AM
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Don't get the madate connection. Lots of vaccines are FDA approved that are not mandated. Nor should they or this one be mandated by the govt. Private businesses can do what they want with regard to mandates but the govt cannot force me to do something that is morally objectionable and in contradiction to my own personal health care decisions. They can try to make my life difficult but they cannot force me to be vaccinated. Period.....end of discussion.
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GoneFishin
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Bad News
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8/23/2021 12:59:07 PM
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The government can mandate whatever they want dude.
To keep children in schools healthy, Georgia requires children to get vaccines against certain diseases before going to school.
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MartiniMan
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You are totally wrong
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8/23/2021 1:10:08 PM
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No they can't because parents have the choice to home school or send them to private schools that don't force them to be vaccinated. If their only option is a govt school then they have to follow the rules. Just like I said. And by the way, I would heartily encourage parents to get their children vaccinated for polio, mumps, measles, etc. They are very safe and have worked well. And if they develop an actual vaccine for the ChiCom virus I will get it in a heart beat although I think it's crazy to have kids get vaccinated for a virus that is of almost no risk to them as we have seen with the shingles vaccine. It is offered to older folks because they are the ones that need it....not to the young.
But I can assure you the govt will never mandate that all Americans get the vaccine...they may make it nearly impossible to work or go anywhere but that is a far cry from lining us up and using a gun to make us take a shot. They can only do that with taxes and frankly, if a person doesn't want to pay taxes they can just not work and live off the dole. It's already working for over 50% of the American public that pays no Federal income taxes. Think Goofy....words have meaning and your idea of a mandate is not what is currently being applied and has never been applied in this country.
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Shortbus
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Heil Fauci
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8/23/2021 1:11:40 PM
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https://www.infowars.com/posts/nuremberg-code-punishable-by-death/
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phil
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Bad News
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8/23/2021 1:15:12 PM
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Let me know when Pedo Joe starts injecting at the border and before he ships the covid + across the US.
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fish1550
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From MartiniMan
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8/23/2021 2:39:17 PM
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If what you said is true (i'm not saying it isn't) why are the hospitals full of Covid patients and why are some cities having to get the make shift morgues again? 39 pregnant women in UAB with Covid. 10 in ICU. 7 on ventilators and 2 dead in last month. Spokeman said their monthly average is usually 2. I personally know (not know of) 5 people that have died iof covid n the recent months. I surely don't know that many many people whom have been killed in car wrecks. Not trying to argue, just wondering.
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MartiniMan
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From MartiniMan
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8/23/2021 3:07:21 PM
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All you need to do is look at the data and you will see that the numbers do not lie about the probablity of dying in a car wreck. What I can't claim is that the data from the study in NY applies to the whole country. I personally know more people that have died in auto wrecks than have been hospitalized with the virus, let alone died....but that's just my experience. The data is what it is and you can draw your own conclusions. Either way you look at it, the chances of anyone ending up in the hospital or dying from the virus are extremely low.....that much we know. And if you are not over age 65 or have other health issues it is incredibly low. But yes, some people do get sick and end up in the hospital. And some people do die from complications associated with the virus. Just like they do with other viral infections, pneumonia, etc. But no doubt the gene therapy does reduce the complications although I also believe there are a number of effective treatment approaches that are equally effective with little to no risk of an adverse reaction.
But when looking at your personal circumstances and in consultation with your doctor if you choose one way or the other that is called informed consent. As I have stated often, if I were over age 65 or had other health issues I would have taken a chance on the novel gene therapies. That to me seems a very good risk management decision. But it is not for others and it is insane to have children take the gene therapy as they are at almost zero risk from the virus and as the former VP of Pfizer stated they literally have no idea what the long-term consequences are of this particular approach to combatting a virus. Since I am younger and in good health I will wait until a conventional vaccine has been approved.....hopefully soon. You may decide otherwise and I fully support that decision....it just isn't for me at this time.
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fish1550
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Bad News
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8/23/2021 6:59:34 PM
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It's the lies that ruin the whole conversation.
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lakngulf
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Bad News
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8/23/2021 7:01:31 PM
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Not lies. Statements that do not age well.
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phil
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Bad News
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8/24/2021 8:10:03 AM (updated 8/24/2021 8:11:17 AM)
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Where was the lie? Is pedo joe injecting people storming our southern border? is the US government allowing people who are unvaxxed to continue on into the US via bus, plane, foot???
If not then I suggest the "lie" is on your end and I agree, it is hard to have a conversation with someone who is as dishonest as you are.
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GoneFishin
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Not Quite Wrong Dude
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8/24/2021 11:37:22 AM
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“If their only option is a govt school then they have to follow the rules. “
There are options dude other than Gov’t schools….that protect the kids.
The state of Georgia and the Archdiocese of Atlanta require up-to-date or completed immunizations for school attendance. All students entering school (through 19 years of age) must be immunized according to the rules and regulations established by the Georgia Department of Public Health. For current immunization requirements, please visit the Immunization Section of the Georgia Department of Health website.
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phil
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Not Quite Wrong Dude
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8/24/2021 3:12:48 PM (updated 8/24/2021 3:13:50 PM)
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Immunization Section of the Georgia Department of Health website.
Wierd just went to the site https://dph.georgia.gov/immunization-section did not find COVID-19 listed anywhere, closest I found was a seasonal flu and I may have not understood it correctly I do not think it was a mandate, but a recommendation.
I am not familier with private schools in GA - so the only two options are state or the Archdiocese in Atlanta? Nothing else anywhere in the state? Just Roman Catholic or government run education, no other Christian denominations ?? Also can you please post a link to where the Archdiocese in Atlanta is requiring Covid shots? I could not find anything about Covid student mandates at https://archatl.com/?s=covid but since you specifically brought up that one had to have up to date immunications for schools I assume you have seen the documentation and it should be easy for you to enlighten us with your wisdom.
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MartiniMan
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Not Quite Wrong Dude
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8/24/2021 3:35:14 PM
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Goofy, when did I mention Catholic schools? I can assure you in GA the number of Protestant schools vastly outnumbers Catholic schools. I would also point out that there also independent Catholic schools not affiliated with the Archdiocese or under their rules.
But I specifically mentioned private schools that don't mandate vaccinations or home schooling. My point remains the same. A mandate that everyone take the current ChiCom Fauci virus vaccine is a far cry from govt or private schools requiring vaccinations to attend. There are other options if that is a big enough issue.....not so much with a broad govt mandate unless you want to go the route of civil disobedience. They can make life difficult if you aren't vaccinated.....but again that is a far cry from mandating it for everyone. That has never been done and for good reason.
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