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Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   1 in 500 died from Covid is a lie
Date:   9/16/2021 5:38:50 PM

Even the CDC has determined that only 6% of the total deaths listed were actually from the virus.  In addition, we know how these numbers have been cooked to make it seem worse than it is due to financial incentives.  A proportion of the deaths were people that tested positive with Covid and were counted regardless of whether the virus had anything to do with their death.  And we all know that the most common test method (PCR) using CT's over 30 result in false positives.  So the headline is blatantly false....as long as you can still think critically.  If not, I am sure you will share it with everyone and tell them how bad things are....cause you're stupid.  No other way to put it.

But even more important is to put it into context.  That is the wildly overstated number from when they started counting which was almost 19 months ago.  Consider this...1 in 500 Americans die EVERY YEAR from heart disease.  1 in 500 Americans die EVERY YEAR from cancer.  And both those diseases have an orders of magnitude higher mortality rate.  Funny, but I don't recall shutting down the economy for hearth disease or cancer.  I don't recall calls for denying medical treatment for people that engage in lifestyles that expose them to these diseases.  Think people....use your brains.  What is important is the infection mortality rate for a given individual and it is comparable to the seasonal flu and better for the vast majority of Americans.





Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   1 in 500 died from Covid is a lie
Date:   9/16/2021 7:52:54 PM

Cobb County’s coronavirus data for Thursday

Here’s a look at Cobb County and state coronavirus numbers reported Thursday, and how they compare to the day before. All information comes from the Georgia Department of Public Health.

As of Thursday, Wellstar Health System had 647 hospitalized COVID-19 patients, 89% of them unvaccinated. The system had 163 COVID-19 patients in intensive care units, 93% of them unvaccinated, and 135 COVID-19 patients on a ventilator, 92% of them unvaccinated.

 





Name:   lakedr - Email Member
Subject:   1 in 500 died from Covid is a lie
Date:   9/17/2021 12:36:41 AM

If you look on the website I have pasted below, it clearly states that 90% of the deaths in 2021 and 2020 combine were Covid related. Quit reading fake articles you see on social media and start reading actual articles with true facts on it you may not make yourself look as stupid (as you call us)

I do agree in some ways with your 2nd paragraph. However, if everyone would trust doctors and scientists who have been studying this vaccine for years now and actually get the vaccine or simply wear a mask to not spread this terrible virus around we wouldn't have to shut the economy down.

 

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/covid19/mortality-overview.htm





Name:   Lifer - Email Member
Subject:   1 in 500 died from Covid is a lie
Date:   9/17/2021 6:04:21 AM

This graphic describes provisional U.S. 2020 deaths and leading causes of death.

Nice try but I aint buying it.  90% my ass.





Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   1 in 500 died from Covid is a lie
Date:   9/17/2021 7:53:50 AM

What I am reading is  slew of articles in the govt media with the title:

1 in 500 Americans have died of COVID since 1st US infection

Google is your friend here.  You will see this title in articles on cnnBS, WaPoBS, nBS, cBS, etc., etc.

The operative word in there was "of". Sorry, but that is an abject, complete, falsehood.  1 in 500 last year died OF heart disease.  1 in 500 last year died OF cancer.  Not even close to 1 in 500 in the last 19 months have died OF Covid.  It's more like 6% of those believed to have Covid and also died that actually died OF Covid. The rest may or may not have had it but it wasn't Covid or Covid alone that killed them.  

As for your second paragraph, I agree with almost none of it.  Masks do not work and neither does the experimental gene therapy masquerading as a vaccine.  We could accomplish the same thing if we just followed what has worked elsewhere...early treatment using a variety of effective medications with none of the side effects and development of variants like we have with the so-called vaccines.  Like I said, look what is happening in one state in India compared to what is happening in Israel or even the state of Vermont here in the U.S.  It amazes me that people are more willing to repeat the lies of the media and incompetent govt scientists when the facts are staring them in the face.  Tell me who's better off, the people of Israel or the people of Sweden.





Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   1 in 500 died from Covid is a lie
Date:   9/17/2021 7:56:42 AM

Don't confuse him with actual data.....although I would take the position that Covid is not even close to the third leading cause of death because most of the deaths attributed to it were from other factors and many probably didn't even have an infection but were a false positive from the PCR test.  But your chart at least works for one silly claim made by lakedr.  Hmmmmm.....methinks if he's a doctor in the lake area I'd really like to know who he is so I can avoid him.  Doesn't seem to believe in science nor facts, logic and reason.





Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   I'd call it malpractice
Date:   9/17/2021 8:02:10 AM

If those people had early effective treatment they would not be in the hospital. It's why I travel with mine at all times in case I get it.

But again, and I do hate to have to repeat myself, I have often stated that the one benefit of the rMNA gene therapy is reduced symptoms.  But at what cost?  We don't know the long-term effects.  We do know we are seeing antibody dependent enhancement and the rapid development of variants.  We do know that using our approach we will never reach herd immunity and will be left with only one option, a vaccine that actually kills the virus...something we have never been able to accomplish with other coronaviruses.  We do know that Sweden, who went for herd immunity is far better off than Israel who went full monty on the jab and are now paying a huge price.





Name:   phil - Email Member
Subject:   Speaking of Cancer
Date:   9/17/2021 8:42:43 AM

Didnt Biden promise to cure that one as well?????

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/06/12/joe-biden-cure-cancer-campaign-richmond-bolduan-sot-ath-vpx.cnn

 

Hopefully he has a better plan this his Afganastan pull out method.





Name:   Lifer - Email Member
Subject:   1 in 500 died from Covid is a lie
Date:   9/17/2021 8:58:38 AM

It illisstrates that you can't trust anything coming from the CDC.  They have conflicting info all over their website.  It is purely a poltical orginazation now.





Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Question for lakedr
Date:   9/17/2021 9:25:54 AM

Do you believe someone that had a prior infection needs the jab?





Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Let's ask Vermont how its going
Date:   9/17/2021 11:11:01 AM

See below and just one of many examples of why listening to 3rd rate scientists and doctors working for CDC and NIH is a fools errand.  Fauci literally has no idea what he's doing and has been wrong so many times it is beyond belief anyone listens to what he says....but they do.

 





Name:   phil - Email Member
Subject:   Let's ask Vermont how its going
Date:   9/17/2021 11:43:31 AM (updated 9/17/2021 11:44:00 AM)

I saw that yesterday.  We are soon coming into the "flu season", its about to turn colder and people are not going to be outside as much - expect much more panic porn about the unvaxxed killing the planet faster then climate change.

 

less the 10 years till we all die due to climate change, but probably only months till those unvaxxed kill off all the vaxxed people, but at least they did not die as bad as they could have if they didnt get the "approved preventative"

 





Name:   lakngulf - Email Member
Subject:   Let's ask Vermont how its going
Date:   9/18/2021 8:54:59 AM

Booster shot only approved for 65 and older.  MMs advice to weigh the odds really come into play now.  Two FDA higher ups resigned because of political interference when booster, and probably the original, should not be authorized.   They go with over 65 to save face.  Makes you wonder.





Name:   Shortbus - Email Member
Subject:   We from da gubment and we here to help
Date:   9/18/2021 9:27:29 AM

https://realrawnews.com/2021/09/census-data-cdc-database-expose-unvaccinated/

 

and don't leave this site quickly..............browse around a Shortbus special site





Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Let's ask Vermont how its going
Date:   9/20/2021 4:27:04 PM

What is unclear to me is whether the booster is needed to reduce breakthrough infections, reduce symptoms or both as the original dosing seems to be wearing off.  Either way, if you are older or vulnerable it may make sense to consider the booster for either of those reasons.  I would say it probably can't hurt but I doubt it was very well studied since they've only known about the problem in the last 6 months.  I doubt the clinical trials, truncated as they were, included the study of a booster.  So it would have to be rushed to say the least with no long-term study of potential adverse impacts of a third shot.  The largest human "vaccine" trial continues.  Waiting for the other shoe to drop as we learn more....assuming it is not hidden from us by the FDA, CDC, NIH and the Pharma companies.









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