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Name:   cornpone - Email Member
Subject:   Snakes
Date:   6/16/2005 5:43:09 PM

Anyone having a problem with/or seeing a lot of snakes?????
We were at the lake last week and killed quite a few snakes and sighted several more. They are a burnt orange color with brown markings. According to our new snake book---they appear to be harmless water snakes. Interested in finding out what type snakes we may run into and they best way to take care of them.



Name:   rock - Email Member
Subject:   Snakes
Date:   6/16/2005 6:10:35 PM

Haven't seen any this year we are in a slough I don't know for sure but it seems like since we started having a bunch of ducks hanging around
in the slough starting many years ago it has not been as bad.

A snake will draw around a light shining close to the water edge.

Of course be careful leaving a littlefishing boat pulled up on the beach.
I have been on the lake since 1964 it never has been a problem although I still keep my guard up.



Name:   WSMS - Email Member
Subject:   Snakes
Date:   6/16/2005 6:27:26 PM

I have heard that the water snakes and the poison cottonmouths are enemies, when you have lots of one you wont see any of the others.



Name:   HappyCamper - Email Member
Subject:   Snakes
Date:   6/16/2005 8:37:52 PM

It's my fault. We bought a place last year and I am a SNAKE MAGNET. Yes, I am seeing snakes and wondering if there is anything (other than encouraging the ducks and geese) that will get rid of them. Are there any pest control people out there who can help? I bought a jug of Reptile-B-Gone but it is just crushed moth balls. The snakes used it to freshen' their condos.



Name:   effie - Email Member
Subject:   Snakes
Date:   6/16/2005 9:03:19 PM

I have used Snake-b-gone for years and seems to work great. Moth balls also work. My uncle used to just spread mothballs around the barn to keep the snakes away. Apparently snakes hate the smell.



Name:   HappyCamper - Email Member
Subject:   Snakes
Date:   6/16/2005 9:23:06 PM

That is great news! Is there another "agent" in Snake-B-Gone other than moth balls? It would be cheaper to buy moth balls and spread them around. Do they polute the lake?



Name:   BigFoot - Email Member
Subject:   Snakes
Date:   6/16/2005 9:31:52 PM

We have been through this many times on this forum.....it saddens me to hear of snakes being killed indiscriminately.....non-poisonous snakes should never be killed...they are our friends and help to control other non-desirable critters.....even poisonous snakes are trying to fit in and help us all out...although I must admit that I care not for poisonous snakes, I cannot condemn one who is defending himself, his children, grandchildren, etc...........if you know the snake cannot harm you...why kill it?



Name:   HappyCamper - Email Member
Subject:   Snakes
Date:   6/16/2005 9:39:06 PM

I do not want to kill the snakes. I want them to go away. Logically, I know they have a place on the lake and they perform a service. But I am afraid of them.



Name:   ChrisCraft - Email Member
Subject:   Snakes
Date:   6/17/2005 2:26:17 AM

Ya jus' can't fix stupid. Unless it's going to attack you or yours....why KILL it? Gawd....has all humanity lost it's grip on reality? YOU ARE ON A LAKE!!! Snakes RESIDE "IN" the lake!!! Along with bream, crappie, beavers, and idiots! I really think we should just concrete the entire lake bottom and make it one HUGE pool. That should run off all those stupid, worthless critters!



Name:   HappyCamper - Email Member
Subject:   Snakes
Date:   6/17/2005 7:35:21 AM

Ok already, I'm laughing! Of course you are right.. Logic rules until I am face to face with a snake off my dock. Then watch me walk on water!



Name:   LifeTime Laker - Email Member
Subject:   This wouldnt work
Date:   6/17/2005 7:58:48 AM

I have been on the lake my entire life and never even HEARD of anyone getting bitten by a snake. I am not saying it hasn't happened, but it is definitely NOT COMMON. As for concreting the bottom, the only person I know that has ever been snake bitten got it when she reached into the skimmer on a pool she was servicing. Pulled her hand out with with a small (8-9 inch) cottonmouth attached to her finger. Blew me away, I thought they stayed away from chlorine.



Name:   JUA - Email Member
Subject:   Snakes
Date:   6/17/2005 8:39:24 AM

The moth ball deal works about as well as Snake-a-Way and costs less.
It is too late in the season to use either for snake eradication. The stuff works by confusing the critter's Jacob's Gland. If you wait untilt he have populated an area they might leave or they may become confused and stay very close inside the perimeter.
I used moth balls under the house and scattered around the yard this spring and still see a no-shoulders every now and then as well as finding a 3.5' snakeskin next to my cabin this week the the TN hills. But no copperheads this year, or at least not yet.
Kind of got to watch where you step. It won't affect them being in the water, but keeping the grass low helps reduce the main reason snakes hang around,...food.
The snakes are just trying to make a living, too.



Name:   ShoeFly - Email Member
Subject:   This wouldnt work
Date:   6/17/2005 9:46:51 AM

Go to your local feed and seed store and get yourself some sulfer. This stuff does work and will keep "ol slick "away from your recreational area.

-Shoe



Name:   Feb - Email Member
Subject:   This wouldnt work
Date:   6/17/2005 11:19:07 AM

Also, heard most of my life that more people are killed by insect bites/stings than snakes. Usually bee or wasp stings, generally someone that is allergic to stings, and usually received a massive number of stings.

Even when someone is struck by a posinous snake, I do not believe that there are many deaths associated. At least not from native North American snakes. The most deadly, the North American coral snake does not strike but rather naws or bites to inject its poision. Typically with humans, that would only occur in shoes or sleeping bags. I believe (someone correct me if I am wrong) the coral snake venom attacks the nervous system whereas the other snaks' venom attacks the blood system.



Name:   Rickiray - Email Member
Subject:   Snakes
Date:   6/17/2005 12:56:10 PM

You're killing harmless good snakes !!! How bout friggin stopping , thinking and respecting nature before you go around killing things!!!!!!!



Name:   rock - Email Member
Subject:   snakes
Date:   6/18/2005 6:12:27 PM

I have been on the lake since 1964 we have swam at night the whole bit
the only time I 've heard of someboy getting bit was back in the 60's a lady across the slough was pushing a "John" boat off the shore and a snake bit her toe. ( Be carefull when something is pulled up on the beach overnight.)With the all activity boats stirring up the water snakes are no where to be found. Now sometime when we sit down in the boathouse at night with the light shining down on the water edge snakes will draw to the light.



Name:   rock - Email Member
Subject:   snakes
Date:   6/18/2005 6:12:31 PM

I have been on the lake since 1964 we have swam at night the whole bit
the only time I 've heard of someboy getting bit was back in the 60's a lady across the slough was pushing a "John" boat off the shore and a snake bit her toe. ( Be carefull when something is pulled up on the beach overnight.)With the all activity boats stirring up the water snakes are no where to be found. Now sometime when we sit down in the boathouse at night with the light shining down on the water edge snakes will draw to the light.



Name:   MotorMan - Email Member
Subject:   snakes
Date:   6/20/2005 6:48:32 PM

I used to live near Tampa. Each year about 6 people are killed by lightning. And I mean just walking down the street. Know what to be afraid of or move.

Some Texas towns had "rattlesnake roundups" each Spring. It was served roasted and a big party was had by all. Of course, there was a plague of rats in each town that tried this.




Name:   Feb - Email Member
Subject:   snakes
Date:   6/20/2005 9:17:56 PM

I have forgotten now, but is it Opp or Andalusia that has the annual rattlesnake roundup? At least one of those two towns used to.



Name:   roswellric - Email Member
Subject:   Claxton
Date:   6/20/2005 9:33:48 PM

GA still does it.



Name:   WSMS - Email Member
Subject:   snakes
Date:   6/20/2005 11:52:20 PM

its Opp, i know that because of the roundup lots of other animals get killed too, they use gas to carch the rattlers, and it kills other animals in the snake holes.



Name:   Lakeman - Email Member
Subject:   snakes
Date:   6/21/2005 9:25:58 AM

What other animal would be alive in a snake hole? Mongoose?



Name:   WSMS - Email Member
Subject:   snakes
Date:   6/21/2005 12:29:07 PM

Snakes don't dig their own holes, they use holes dug by other animals. Down here, the holes that the rattlers use are Gopher Tortise burrows. Snake collectors pour gasoline into these burrows, and the fumes drive the rattlers out into the open. But the fumes overcome and kill any other animals that might be in there (with or without a snake) including the Gopher Tortises, Gopher Frogs, Indigo Snakes, and anything else that might be using one of these burrows for shelter.

The snake rodeo has almost single-handedly led to three animals being placed on the Endangered or Threatened Species list: the Gopher Tortise, the Gopher Frog, and the Indigo Snake. Since nobody cares about these animals because they aren't furry and cuddly, their demise is inevitable. But no one stops to consider that it was bug control that led to the near-elimination of the American Bald Eagle. Nature is one big web, and what you do to one strand of that web affects the rest of the web as well. No one cares that the Indigo Snake is going to become extinct, but they don't take into consideration that the elimination of the snake as a predator will allow their prey (rodents) to multiply exponentially. And nobody cares that the Gopher Tortise will soon be gone, but when they go, so will thier burrows, which are important to many other animals.



Name:   Lakeman - Email Member
Subject:   snakes
Date:   6/22/2005 12:21:37 AM

Thank you oppster for that information. Of course you are correct. My little remark was out of place. Peace.







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