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8/1/2006 12:02:41 PM
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We have been on Lake Martin now for almost 1 year. One of the things that we (and all of our friends) are very impressed with is the abscense of mosquitos during the day and evening hours. Makes the lake time a whole lot better.
We have noticed over the last few weekends however that we have gotten several mosquito bites. Guess the little bit of rain we have had over the last few weeks is increasing the population. Anyone else having this problem? We are in the Blue Creek area on the small side of the lake near Lakeside Marina.
I thought I remember somewhere online that you can report Mosquito problems and they will come spray the area? I can't remember if it is on this forum somewhere or not. Does anyone know where to report this problem?
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4PAR
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8/1/2006 12:41:02 PM
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I don't know about reporting the problem, but our place is over past Veazey's Marina and we have several birds, I think they are some type of Swallow, that I feel are the reason that we have almost a non existent mosquito problem.
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PC Al
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Mosquitos?
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8/1/2006 3:55:26 PM
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Hey Crownline. How close do you live to the area to the right after you go through the Narrows, where Russell moved the little rental cabins last winter? If you have seen them, are those not great lots? All are flat and have deep water. Wonder what they will sell for. Don't you know those people that had the rental cabins are sick? Those lots put The Ridge lots to shame. And they will be part of Willow Point, so they won't be cheap.
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4PAR
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8/2/2006 7:42:43 AM
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After you pass Veazey's on your right and go under the power lines our place is over to the left from there. Yes those will be great lots and I have heard some astronomical numbers being mentioned. I heard they would be going for about the same thing that people are saying the lots out on the island with the bridge behind Chimney Rock will be going for, but I find that hard to believe. I've heard in the range of $450,000 for both areas but I would think the lots out on that island would go for more than the ones over close to me. But who knows!!!!!
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Mosquitos?
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8/2/2006 7:51:02 AM
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Hi Crownline, Your and my place can not be too far from each other. I am up on Oakachoy. If you look on the map, I am up on one of the fingers about as far North West as you can get on the Lake. You go off 259 and then 20 to get over to my place.
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4PAR
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8/2/2006 7:57:03 AM
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Yeah that is the same way we go if we go into Alex City. We are from Sylacauga so we usually go Highway 9 and then get on 20. To get to our place you turn on Upper Trail Road where the Dixie Rest sign is and take a right at the bottom of the hill.
So do you go through the Narrows to get to yours or is it before the Narrows?
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Mosquitos?
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8/2/2006 8:33:33 AM
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Our place is through the Narrows away from the main Lake. After you go past Veasey's (would be on your right), you will go through the Narrows and see a couple of small islands. You stay straght with the islands on your right . There are about three major fingers when you go about as far as you can go. We are on the center finger. There is no longer anything on our lot since we just had the old cabin burned and are now starting a new Lake House. Off 20 you hit Hilltop Road to get to our place.
I assume you are on the same side of the Narrows as our place.
We do get a few mosquitos since I think they like that out of State blood taste.
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4PAR
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Mosquitos?
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8/2/2006 8:55:43 AM
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Yes they probably get tired of home grown blood.
We have some friends that have a place back over to the right of where your place is close to that boat ramp off of Johnson creek road. We come play on our tubes over in that long slough to the right of your place. If the water keeps dropping we'll have to be careful back up in there though.
I'll try to spot your lot this weekend.
Good luck with your new house.
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ot
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8/2/2006 9:51:15 AM
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hey, i am from Sylacauga. have a place on Dadeville side in Sandy Creek.
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PC Al
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Same Area
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8/2/2006 11:32:58 AM
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And I am on Parker Creek, thus the PC Al. For a while, I thought everyone on this forum, except FEB, was from the Blue Creek area.
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4PAR
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8/2/2006 12:10:36 PM
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We don't make it over that far very often.
We have made it over to Wind Creek at least once each of the last two or three years but that is a long haul for us.
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4PAR
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8/2/2006 12:17:26 PM
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I visit the forum pretty much everyday during the week. We come down to the lake every Friday and spend the weekend. I believe this is the first time in several years but we have been down every weekend since Memorial day this year. It had been a very hot but great summer.
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Mosquitos?
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8/2/2006 12:31:23 PM
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Thank you Crownline. I will need all the luck I can get. The new laws are more stringent on perc test for the septic. We are still going through that process prior to obtaining the building permit.
We are the last lot on the left of that slough prior to getting to the small power line that crosses. Across the slough from a rather nice looking A-Frame with a beautiful stone chimney. We do have a boat dock. So, you can tie up and walk around if you like. I removed all the bobby traps after the old cabin was burned. (LOL)
I wish I knew where the boat launch you are referring to is at. I have looked for it before and never found it. Directly across the slough from us is a really nice concrete boat launch, and I always thought it belonged to the cabin it is adjacent to. ???
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4PAR
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8/2/2006 12:45:02 PM
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If I have my bearings right the ramp I'm talking about should be in the slough around behind your lot. I'm not sure how far you go on Highway 20, but from Alex City you turn left on Johnson Creek Road. It has a green road sign but it is at the bottom of a little hill on the left so you have to look close or you will pass it. You just follow that road until you see the ramp on your left. It is probably the best ramp on the lake in my opinion. It is wide enough and just the right slope, not too steep. We only use it at the beginning and end of the season.
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4PAR
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Correction feb!!!
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8/2/2006 12:49:03 PM
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I read your message wrong, it would be to the left on the other side of the islands in the slough across from you.
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Correction feb!!!
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8/2/2006 1:04:56 PM
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OK. As you go down 20 the first paved road to the left is Oak something or another. The second paved road at the top of the hill off 20 is Hilltop Road. That is the road you take to go to my place. I have been down further on 20, but I do not recall the names of all the roads past Hilltop.
It is rather remote on this part of the Lake and oh so peaceful.
The chiggers also love the yankee blood. I am originally from Dothan, but I guess for too long.
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4PAR
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Correction feb!!!
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8/2/2006 2:39:55 PM
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I think I'm losing my mind. I'm trying to do this while I work and I am not doing either one very well.
I should have said 259 instead of 20. Johnson Creek Road is off of 259 not 20. I'm apologize for the mistakes.
It is right at a mile marker (can't remember which one) probably around half way to 20.
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Correction feb!!!
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8/2/2006 2:50:55 PM
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OK, It is probably back closer to 12 and the Church where you cut off the opposite direction to go to the site of the old Oakachoy Covered Bridge. Just a guess on my part.
It was just a matter of curiosity. I do not need a boat launch since my Brother has one at his place. He is also on Parker Creek over off 24. We are 9 miles apart by land but probably only 5 miles apart by water.
We all (Parker Creek Folks) are on a pristine an beautiful part of the Lake in my personal opinion.
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PC Al
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8/2/2006 3:59:48 PM
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FEB, I think you said earlier you are in Coosa County. If so, I built back in '99 and the lady with the Health Department gave us fits. I ended up paying about three times what anyone else I had heard of paid for a system. She made me hire an architect from Tallessee to design a system, then had to buy two fiberglass tanks, pumping liquid from one to the other and then pump up a hill. We were within about of week from finishing house when we finally got approved. I thought we were going to have to move in and get port-a-john. She was a real pain. Hope you have better luck. Like Crownline, we go down during the week from B'ham since both retired. If we can check on anything for you, let us know. We are leaving in the morning, but don’t have a computer down there. I love to ride up in your part of the lake. I think it is the best location on the whole lake. We ride the Sea Doo up Oakachoy Creek for what seems like several miles. So peaceful.
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If you go up Oakachoy as far as you can by boat at full pool you can tie up and hike up the creek a ways to a very nice waterfall. Have been there many times when I lived on that side of the lake. VERY peaceful site. One of my all time favorites. I need to mak it a point to get up that way, lots of great memories from my youth over there. Do the local kids still park at the Girl Scout Camp and party? Man I have picked up TONS of trash from there. We used to ski/tube figure eights around the two islands in two boats going in oppisite directions. Sure was nice to be young and foolish....lol
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8/2/2006 4:14:05 PM
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Thank You PC Al, I had heard the same thing about this Lady (I will be kind) in Coosa. My builder says the Law has also recently changed and they require drilling and testing 5 holes vs. 3 (I think) for the pec test. One hole with gravel and the others in various locations. Anyway, you have to get that done for a building permit. They received a formal complaint from a Gentlman (I will be kind again) from GA by the name of JIM that caused the law to change. He has a lot of connections I have heard. Something about laying pipe all over the country side both in GA and AL.
I appreciate the offer to check on things for me. You are more than welcome to ride over and look around. Any comments you have are appeciated. My Brother is also in Parker Creek and is making frequent trips over. No constructions can start without the permit. I am told that should happen in the next week or two. I am keeping my fingers crossed.
I wonder if she likes roses are Godiva chocolates. (LOL). Thanks again.
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8/2/2006 4:19:01 PM
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Hi Life Time Laker, It is a beautiful spot and some good fishing also. My slought is one over from that main feeder. I have not made it all the way up to the waterfall but as far as my boat would take me. I understand you have to get out and hike a bit over the rocks. I look forward to doing that this Fall. It is on my list.
Maybe a Forum hike one day.
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8/2/2006 5:31:54 PM
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We like to take slow boat rides in that area, very peaceful, didnt know about the waterfall, thanks life time laker for the info, sounds like a great place to take the kids to see, i love this forum, learn something almost everytime i visit, peace
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8/2/2006 5:45:39 PM
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I am sure others will tell you the same. It is very rocky, and the rocks are smooth and slippery. I started to venture up once duing May and turned around. I have bad knees. I am hoping to try to circumvent the rocks some by going up during the fall. I know of one party that hiked up to the falls, but one member slipped and got a nasty gash to his chin on the return back to their boat. Maybe kids are like billy goats and want have any problem.
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8/2/2006 5:48:17 PM
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Thanks feb, we will be careful
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It is rather tricky to navigate up the creek. I have never done it at low pool but I imagine the hike is substantially further and the boat ride more dangerous due what are submerged rocks at full pool.
You might try going up the hill on the left bank and walking the ridge line to the waterfall and then back down. I did it that way once when with a girlfriend who was scared of the creek hike. But that was 20 years ago so the terrain might have changed with tree and underbrush growth. Also I have seen MANY snakes in that Creek, more so than any other place I have been on the lake. But that may be due to spending more time in there than most snaky places....lol
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8/2/2006 6:13:49 PM
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I also was leary of the snakes. One reason to go late fall early winter. Maybe those critters have found a hole to sleep in.
It is one more pristine area. There is one area where I observed a lot of underwater fresh water escargot. At least, I think it was what I saw. I mean snails guys and gals. You could see them down about two feet in the water attached to fallen tree limbs.
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I thought you were just politically correct... lol
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8/2/2006 7:55:38 PM
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Careful feb, I killed a 7.5ft Timber rattler in Coosa County the Sunday after Thanksgiving years ago. Was hunting at the time, temp about 50-55 degrees. I thought they were all in their holes by then too, but alas the belt now tells us diferent.... He was cold and moving slow though so even an old guy like you could have outrun him...lol.
This is Bama not Virginia... winters are different!! BE CAREFULL!! I have had way too much fun with you through the years to loose to a stuborn moccasin..
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8/2/2006 8:39:41 PM
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I would of been running so fast in one place I would of dug a hole for myself.
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PC Al
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8/2/2006 10:09:48 PM
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When I built, no permit was required in Coosa County. Just couldn't occupy house until lady (?) OK’d septic system. Good luck with her. I was not sure she was still around, but sounds like she is. And as far as the falls are concerned, I go up there on Sea Doo, which has a neutral gear. That way I can kick it in and out of gear, going really slow and transverse around the rocks and get right up to the rapids. Can just get off then and walk on the rocks. Am too afraid of the snakes to go into the woods.
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Funny You Say That
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8/2/2006 10:12:40 PM
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Dang, now i think i will be REAL careful.
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FLee
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8/3/2006 9:55:32 AM
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Just my 2 cents. We have a couple of lots that we had septic systems designed and approved a little over 6 months ago. I have heard they are much more stringent now. It is probably a bit different for feb's lot since he had a place on it before and has a good idea of what is required, but I am hearing about a lot of people who buy lots based only perc tests to find they cannot build the house they wanted (or where they wanted). We were sure we had plenty of room on our lots, but could only get approval for 3 bedrooms.
Approval is not only based on perc tests, it also is based on distance from water, shape of lot, slope of lot, size of house (number of bedrooms), and other factors that I don't quite understand.
However, if the lady you refer to is Andrea Jones, I have found her to be very fair in her handling of our approvals.
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8/3/2006 10:17:19 AM
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No Sir FLee, I am about as confused as anyone. I do know you have to be 30 feet back from the water with the construction to include your house decking. I was hoping it was only for the house. You also have to be 50 ft from the property lines. Neither of the above deal with perc.
I believe most everything you stated about perc is correct. I do know a big factor for perc is the underground geological make-up. A bed of solid rock or rock ledge is going to kill you on perc. I don't want to have to go through the pumping uphill procedure.
I do not know the Lady but was only repeating what I had heard from another source. I can imagine it is difficult for such a job to be handled by only one individual for an entire County. Especially a rural County with primarily septic systems.
Yes, I heard there was a recent law change. I don't know the particulars or even whether it was a State or Federal change.
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4PAR
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8/3/2006 10:36:54 AM
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So you are saying that the beginning of the front deck (if you have one) has got to be 30 ft from the water and the other 3 sides of the house have got to be 50 ft from the property lines?
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8/3/2006 10:49:00 AM
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That is the way it was explained to me. Now there maybe other peculiar things. I think the 30 ft. line from the water is an APCO thing. I am not sure, if your property was never owned by APCO if that is still true or not. I believe the deck part is true if it is attached to the house.
I am by no means an expert in this area and am learning something new all the time I am all ears for what others know.
I have no problem on my place with the above. My only concern is the perc at this point, and I maybe worrying over nothing. I am angling my house for the best view. So, one corner of the deck will be 30 ft. back and the other corner is significantly further back from the water.
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8/3/2006 11:10:26 AM
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My In-Laws have owned our place for over 30 years and it is still plenty nice enough, but 10-15 years from now when my wife and I get closer to retirement age I had thought about starting from scratch like you are doing. But by those rules our lot is probably not big enough to build a place as big as what we have on it now.
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8/3/2006 11:21:22 AM
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You may want to check with the County and APCO to make sure you have the straight scoop. I am builiding basically a one level house, but it will have a walk out basement. The walk out basement will be finished. So, it provides us with a full bath in the basement, two rooms that could serve as bedrooms, a utility room area for yard equipment, back-up generator and utilities, and a large room I will use as a workshop or could be used as a game room.
We donated our old cabin to the Rockford Vol. Fire Dept. They burned it down as a training exercise. It saved me a lot of hauling expense and will give me a major charitable tax write-off. You do have to have a formal appraisal performed of the old place to support the tax write-off.
I am not sure, are you saying your current place is closer to the Lake or property lines than the numbers I mentioned?
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FLee
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8/3/2006 11:38:49 AM
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I have heard that if the property was never owned by APCO, the setbacks are not as stringent. We were told that we could get as close to the water as we wanted. Since we are not planning to build on this property, I never had the need to find out an official position.
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I Think You are Right FLee
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8/3/2006 11:55:53 AM
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8/3/2006 12:01:20 PM
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That deal you worked up with Rockford is pretty cool. I've seen that done in Sylacauga but I had no idea a Volunteer FD would be able to do that.
Presently our place would probably meet those guidelines in the back, but both sides are much closer than 50 feet. Of course, our boathouse at full pool is right on the water and we have an open walled building (Grill Room) on the other side that is no more than 10 feet from the sea wall. The front of the main house probably is close to 30 feet away from the water.
I would have to check with my F-n-L to make sure but I don't think our lot was ever owned by APCO.
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8/3/2006 12:24:16 PM
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I will give them credit. They did a great job with the controlled burn. There was minimum residue and basically just the stuff that would not burn left behind. I think the Vol. Fire Dept. you are in the District has command and schedules the exercise. The other Vol. Fire Depts in the area will also join in and send new firemen needing training. It is great for everyone. You could be in the juridiction fo the Eclectic Fire Dept. I think my place was sort of on the boder and both Chiefs came out and made the determination of who had the lead.
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I Think You are Right FLee
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8/3/2006 12:29:01 PM
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Would you'll get off this $hit - LOL
Not sure about the 50' easement on sides of house. However the 30' from water is an APCO requirement if the lot was ever owned by APCO. Sure Russell Lands has a similiar, if not the same or more stringent setback.
As our house was never owned by either APCO nor Russell, we are not required to build outside the 30' setback Actually my neighbor built his house right on the edge of the lake. Only time we have to ahve APCO approval is if we go inside the 490' mark. So we can build a boathouse, houses, etc right on the lake and as long as outside the 490'.
Hope this clarifies some of the quesitons.
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8/3/2006 1:19:56 PM
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..... that there is a 50' setback from the side property lines. That would rule out building much of anything on most lots, even the ones that APCO is selling now. Tallapoosa county only has a 5ft setback, and that is adopted from the state guidelines from what I understand. The ONLY inspection needed to build in Tallapoosa county is septic, but I have heard they are considering a building inspector and inspection process. Others may know more of this than I.
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8/3/2006 1:37:34 PM
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I suspect you are right, and I am wrong LifeTime Laker. It just does not make sense. Sorry for the obvious bad info.
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Re-think & Agree
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8/3/2006 3:05:50 PM
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Tallapoosa Co. now has a full-time building inspector on the job. I know of at least one subdivision that has a 15' requirement from the side lot line. I am almost positive that Feb was correct about there being a 30 foot setback rule from the shoreline on APCO owned or previously owned
property...yes, I think it does include attached decks.
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Re-think & Agree
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8/3/2006 4:01:42 PM
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I agree about the 30 ft rule. That is what I have always heard, however, have never had any personal dealings with it. I am glad to hear that we now have a building inspector. That should help some of the messes around here. Now if they would just pass a nuisance law. My sister has a lot in Blue Creek on Herrons Camp road. There is a guy on that road that would make Fred Samford proud. For the past 5-6 years he has put a blue tarp held down by cement blocks and rocks over the roof of his house instead of repairing the roof. This year he used black plastic instead. I guess tarps got to expensive. The entire yard is cluttered with inoperable water craft, lawnmowers, trash etc. A nuisance law would force him to clean it up!!!
As for the 50 ft rule, it doesn't make sense that they would only have 15ft setback for piers and 50ft for houses, 15ft seems much more reasonable.
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JIM
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Re-think & Agree
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8/3/2006 5:55:40 PM
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This guy is doing the best he can to live on the Lake, probley been there a long time, Can`t afford it, all the high doller people are complaining.
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BigFoot
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Re-think & Agree
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8/3/2006 6:01:19 PM
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I just dug out an old memo from APCO from 1991 stating that all lots leased or previously owned by Al. Power have the stipulation about the the 30 foot setback rule from the shoreline and any structures on the lot or in the 490 pool must have a 15 foot buffer from the lot lines or extended lot lines for structures in the water. I doubt that there have been any changes to that.
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