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MartiniMan
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Cheney 2, Obama 0
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5/15/2009 11:46:31 AM
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Cheney takes a 2-0 lead over the Messiah on foreign policy issues. Obama will announce that they will restart military tribunals for unlawful combatants. I wish he would now take on domestic spending and health care. We could really use the help in combating the insanity.
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Council Roc Doc
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5/15/2009 11:57:24 AM
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MM, don't uncork the champagne just yet. Sean Hannity is the only talking head that saw through this charade. He knew the photos were going to be leaked and simply did a CYA by publicly stating he was backtracking based on the possibility of harm to our troops. He assuaged his base while receiving credit and adulation from the moderates. Smart move, sorry Cheney didn't call him out on it.
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lakngulf
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5/15/2009 5:09:13 PM
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We do not need to be holding Cheney up as some great sage with all the answers. I do not trust that man, never did. He talks too ??slanted?? to be trusted, almost cryptic. Now before MM and WW and etc jump at me, I have vote Republican from Reagan on, holding my nose at times. Just my 1 1/2 cents worth.
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MartiniMan
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5/15/2009 7:00:09 PM
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My only question for you is what did he say that seemed unreasonable to you? I think you have bought too much into the media template. He says what he means and means what he says.
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au67
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5/15/2009 7:39:53 PM
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If you don't trust Dick Cheney, give me a name of a politician you do trust!
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lakngulf
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5/15/2009 7:48:13 PM
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As Eisenhower warned so many years ago about the danger of the increasing power and influence of the industrial-military complex, I distrust one who is squarely in the middle of just that. Just my opinion, but Cheney always seems like he is speaking in code, and I think he along with Rumsfeld were the ones who wanted to finish what they thought elder Bush left undone in the Gulf War. As far as a politician I do trust...hmmmm like I said I just hold my nose when I vote.
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alahusker
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5/16/2009 12:03:38 AM
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Sometimes you guys amaze me.. You don't like Cheney.. ok.. don't like him.. I believe that he's just trying to tell you what he thinks.. He thinks we are on a bad path.. He thinks we are more likely to be attacked with present and developing policies.. I believe he's a man of principle, with zero, zip nadda to gain from saying what he believes is best for the Nation.. He is not running for president or even city council.. He is a true patriot, in my opinion, and sleeps well at night.. But what do I know???.
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MrHodja
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5/16/2009 12:54:16 AM
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A lot more than some.
Cheney always impressed me the same way, back as far as his time as SecDef. Straight shooter, no BS. Hawk, maybe. But I can guarandamntee you that our enemies are ultimately more hawkish than Dick Cheney.
We live in such a cushy nation that folks simply do not understand or accept the dark side of human nature. They live in a dream world of the way they would like to believe it is rather than realizing and accepting the way it really is.
And that's not right wing conservatism. That's real.
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The word is "Rogue" and it's a pretty good beer as well.
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lakngulf
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5/16/2009 6:51:36 AM
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Just my opinion of Cheney. He may be just what we need, and the war on terror is needed. We have a tough enemy out there. A huge military-industrial complex (making mucho off a war like things used to be) is no way to fight this current enemy. We fight well with huge equipment, air strikes, surge forces, conquer. That kind of war benefits people like Cheney. I have to be suspicious of that, when you look at a war and wonder what are we doing.
The current enemy has all the time in the world. You can lay down fort with as many as you like. They have people who consider themselves to be part of the ammunition, and not a part of the force. That is a dangerous enemy, the one who want to die with you. We are in a tough moment in history with that kind of enemy. Obama does not have a clue, so if he makes the same decision that Cheney would have made then maybe that is good. Someone with some real smarts has got to figure out how to keep us safe. It will be more finese than force this time.
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lotowner
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5/16/2009 7:10:30 AM
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LAKNGULF
Well said! I like your statement "part of the ammunition". After the years with Arafat, 9/11, USS Cole, etc., there should not be any doubt in the mind of Americans that we must always be on the alert and when these individuals are detected, destroy is the only solution. Wounding is not sufficient. If not, they will resurface somewhere else in the world to fight another day.
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Talullahhound
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The Idea of Safety
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5/16/2009 9:41:42 AM
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I hear a lot of people saying that we are "safer". Guys, we aren't safe now, we have never been "safe". It is a dark, dangerous world and there will always be those with the will to try to do damage to our country and to Americans. But, they may lack the resources, for the moment; or they may lack the means, for the moment. You just can't kill or imprison them all. You can't befriend them all either.
You have to do your intelligence, do your due diligence and be aware. Use your resources wisely.
As Americans, we always want to act and get immediate results. Most of the other cultures aren't like ours. They are willing to wait. They understand that time is on their side. They believe that the battle will turn in their favor.
All this discussion about whether Dems or Republicans are keeping us "safer" is pointless. Safety is just an illusion. We're got to learn to live with our vulnerability as long as we want to be a free principled society. Otherwise we should lock down our borders and not let anyone in.
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widgethater
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The Idea of Safety
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5/16/2009 11:36:38 AM
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TH- Your last sentence sounds like the right place to start.
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This was the point I brought up to the Department of Public Safety over the illegal alien/wreck/ no drivers license event last week. I asked him how he would feel if the one he let drive away without any ID was the one who comes in and bombs us at a football game or taints the water supply or flies a plane into another building? I said there may be millions of illegal aliens here, but you have to deal with what is in front of you one by one! Do your job and defend the laws of the State, deport, impound the vehicle and stop them from victimizing the next person without any regard to our laws. I told him that the State Troopers are losing our respect because they are slacking in the area of illegal aliens. The INS (ICE) will not come for one person, they will only come when they can get large groups. The departments are not working together and the job is not getting done! They should take their picture, fingerprint them and put them in a data base. NO they should not have any "rights". They lost the right to have rights when they didn't come to the country through the proper channels of legal immigration.
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Talullahhound
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The Idea of Safety
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5/16/2009 9:36:02 PM
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You know, the place I moved from last year took on the illegal problem. The county supervisors decided that whenever the police stopped anyone for probable cause, they would also check their immigration status. And if they didn't have proof of citizenship or a green card, they would be held for the INS. This would also happen whenever the police were called to a house. The county had a large number of illegals who came there for the building industry to work as laborers.
It was very controversial and became very political. A lot of Hispanics left the county. But then, when the building industry dried up and the jobs dried up, most of them left anyway.
They brought with them their gang culture and a lot of violence within their community as well as other illegal activity.
As I understand it, the reason most places don't crack down on illegals is because they need their labor in both agriculture and as laborers -- jobs a lot of Americans don't want.
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Lady
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5/17/2009 9:03:27 AM
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Gallup Poll approval ratings:
Obama - 66%
Cheney - 30%
Hmmmm.......
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au67
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5/17/2009 9:09:36 AM
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Sometimes a majority simply means all the fools are on the same side.
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MartiniMan
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5/17/2009 9:14:55 AM
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Look at the Media Research Center and compare the percentage of negative mainstream media coverage of Cheney versus the Messiah and you will find that the vast majority of the coverage of each is stilted by the liberal media. Is it any wonder that polls show this outcome. Regardless, the Messiah is apparently paying attention when he is being schooled by the wiser Mr. Cheney.
By the way, since you love polls so much perhaps you illuminate us as to why poll after poll show the majority of Americans oppose Obama's policies, fear the growth and cost of government, are opposed to abortion, etc. I know the answer but am curious how honest you can be.
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Yankee06
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5/18/2009 2:31:39 AM
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Let's give Cheney and Bush some credit here. After 9/11, as reported in the open press, SOCOM (our military's Special Operations Command)was plused up with more special ops types (Green Berets, Delta Force, etc.) SOCOM was then given the previously unheard of authority to operate anywhere in the world without even informing the regional commanders that SOCOM forces were in their areas. I believe these operations go a long way in explainng why there have been no further atacks on our mainland. Let's hope the present crew of leaders follow Bush and Cheney in this effort and don't screw this up
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rude evin
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Yankee06........
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5/18/2009 9:42:40 AM
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Thanks for your insight..........lots of people will agree with you...........and some noise will try to rationalize everything away.
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