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Cruiser
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Is Lake Martin "Federal Water"
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10/21/2005 2:37:03 PM
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| Name: |
AnchorbayDon
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Is Lake Martin "Federal Water"
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10/21/2005 4:22:28 PM
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If you mean by "Federal Water" the "Navigable waters of the U.S.", the answer is no. Since Lake Martin is landlocked and you cannot navigate out to the ocean or Gulf from it, it does not qualify as a "Navigable Water" subject to certain laws, rules, etc of the Coast Guard.
If you mean "is it under control of the Federal Govt?" the answer is yes. The Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) regulates the lake and licenses its power to Alabama Power to administer it on a day to day basis.
Hope that helps!
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| Name: |
CAT BOAT
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| Subject: |
Navigable water
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10/21/2005 4:42:32 PM
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Lake Martin is navigable on some days, but not all. On weekdays, other than holidays that fall during the week, Lake Martin is very navigable. There is not much boating traffic during those times, and the lake can be navigated at excessive high speeds effectively. However, during weekend daylight hours during the summer, Lake Martin is unnavigable . Most boats wonder around aimlessly going in every direction possible and as slow as possible (thats why the federal government deams Lake Martin not navigable). This situation lends itself to the operation of pontoon boats only. Guidelines suggest the operation of Personal Water Craft on Lake Martin be done at nighttime between the hours of 10:00pm and 3:00am. But, effective May 31st, 2006, the new Federal Guidelines suggest that during daylight hours in the summer months, Lake Martin will be navigable, thanks to a resolution signed by the LMPBA (lake martin power boat association) that limits boat traffic to unmuffled powerboats during those times and no speedlimit has been set forth at this time. I am sure you all will agree with these new rules.
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| Name: |
au67
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| Subject: |
Navigable water
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Date:
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10/21/2005 9:35:03 PM
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Obviously you are not aware that these new rules will be in direct violation of the local ordinance recently implemented by the Sandy Creek Beach Neighborhood Watch Committee which prohibits any motorized watercraft of any type within two miles of Smith Mountain in any direction.
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| Name: |
CAT BOAT
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| Subject: |
Navigable water
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Date:
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10/21/2005 10:06:34 PM
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Yes, I am aware that your neighborhood watch had attempted to place this ordinance! But, after consideration set forth by the LMPBA, your ordinance was trashed. Economic conditions created by "no boating activity within two miles" proved to be costly to area marinas' and local business. Therefore, LMPBA was voted superior over all other Lake Martin organizations and the original powerboat order was upheld. The only issue left was a six day ban on bassboats and pontoon boats that would limit these vessels to wednesday operation between the hours of 8:00am until 8:45am. When the votes are cast, I will post the results.
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| Name: |
babygirl
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Thanks
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10/21/2005 10:25:42 PM
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for the entertainment!!!!!! The Forum WAS getting a little boring. You can stir the puddin' with the best of them. LMAO. Lakefun wants to know what the penalty is if you run a bassboat after 8:45 am.
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| Name: |
CAT BOAT
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Penalty
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10/21/2005 10:33:36 PM
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The penaly, (or fine) for operation of a fiberglass fishing vessel after the regulated time is very severe. It was mandated by the LMPBA, section 10 page 46. It states, "operation of a fiberglass fishing vessel after the set time limit will result in the vessel being turned over to the LMPBA to be used as bonfire material to be used as a signaling device to attract pontoon operators to a specific island", also, if said vessel is powered by an outboard motor, the outboard motor would be donated to wafflehouse and would be used as a giant eggbeater. It sounds harsh, but LMPBA decided it was the only way to keep the lake safe.
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| Name: |
babygirl
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That is HARSH!!!!!!!
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10/21/2005 10:48:03 PM
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Once again, LMAO. Lakefun does not know this yet. Stay tuned. I am sure he will have a response.
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GoneFishin
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| Subject: |
BULLETIN
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10/21/2005 11:40:00 PM
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I just heard on FOX News that the new Federal Guideline 186-05 which will allow unmuffled boats and unlimited speed on Lake Martin will become null and void if Karl Rove is indicted.
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| Name: |
lakefun
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| Subject: |
Amendment request
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Date:
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10/22/2005 6:05:36 PM
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As a supporter of the LMPBA I would like to propose an amendment for consideration by the LMPBA. This amendment would make available a very limited number of 2-day permits to bass boats with performance modifications enabling them to exceed 90 mph. This speed must be verified by LMPBA by use of GPS. A $150.00 fee will be charged for every attempt at qualifying for this permit and an annual $75.00 recertification fee. Also pontoon boats able to maintain 30 mph should be allowed to operate on Saturday and Sunday mornings between 10:00 and 11:00 to get to the rock and again on Saturday and Sunday afternoons between 6:00 pm and 7:00 pm to return home from the rock. Thanks for your consideration on these issues.
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| Name: |
JIM
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| Subject: |
Amendment request
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Date:
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10/22/2005 6:10:26 PM
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This whole trhread is a bunch of crap.
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| Name: |
lakefun
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| Subject: |
Amendment request
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Date:
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10/22/2005 6:31:59 PM
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Well Jim, in that case why don’t you stay out of it????????
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| Name: |
lakefun
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| Subject: |
Amendment request
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Date:
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10/22/2005 6:57:38 PM
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On second thought, since you and I are the only one’s posting. What’s your point?
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| Name: |
JIM
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| Subject: |
Amendment request
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10/22/2005 7:29:28 PM
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Well since you brought it up. Just opened a beer. PROST!!!. Heres to the gril in red shoes, she takes my money, and drinks my booze,she`s got no cherry,but that`s no sin,she still has the box it came in.
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| Name: |
lakefun
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| Subject: |
Amendment request
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10/22/2005 7:55:11 PM
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LMAO!!!!!!!!! Sounds like that may not be the first beer you opened today.
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| Name: |
lakefun
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| Subject: |
Amendment request
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Date:
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10/22/2005 7:57:26 PM
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That is RFF.
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| Name: |
CAT BOAT
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NO REQUEAT GRANTED!
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Date:
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10/22/2005 8:02:25 PM
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No request granted on thes subject. As of 2:34 pm, the counsel has met. It is voted that all pontoon boats report to public landings, and will be recycled as waste aluminum. I am thinking that all pontoon boats will be recycled to become millerlite cans, so that the LMPBA can have more cold ones to sip on. Buy stock in Millerlite now. Effecive now, all pontoon boats must be turned in now so that 2006 can began as planned. Wafflehouese is standing by for the eggbeater outboards. The LMPBA has taken over the lake. And, all rules and regs must be met. Sorry, just reporting what I have seen on CNN. All pontoons, and bassboats report to the nearest boat landing now.
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| Name: |
lakefun
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NO REQUEAT GRANTED!
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Date:
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10/22/2005 8:28:28 PM
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I do agree with all rulings by the LMPBA, and support the LMPBA, but I don’t think the Association has taken in to consideration the amount of cuties that arrive at the rock by pontoon boat. The bass boat idea was a way to generate revenue for the Association while not allowing them to interfere with going fast and making a lot of noise. I will gladly give in on the bass boat amendment, but in the interest of beautifying the lake I think the pontoon boat amendment should be reconsidered.
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| Name: |
lakefun
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| Subject: |
Amendment request
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10/22/2005 8:30:50 PM
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Jim, please tell me what PROST means and I will tell you what RFF means.
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| Name: |
Chevy4x4
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Define Powerboat...?
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Date:
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10/23/2005 12:37:07 AM
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Just curious if my poor, pitiful Baja makes the cut. :)
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CAT BOAT
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| Subject: |
Define Powerboat...?
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Date:
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10/23/2005 10:33:11 AM
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Powerboat:// aka V-8 powered (at least one) fiberglass vessel that is capable of making excessive noise while traveling at or above 59.6mph operated within the guidelines as stated in section 2 page 26 of the LMPBA operations manual. Hope that helps.
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| Name: |
Chevy4x4
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| Subject: |
Define Powerboat...?
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Date:
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10/23/2005 2:02:20 PM
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excellent.
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| Name: |
JIM
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| Subject: |
Amendment request
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Date:
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10/23/2005 6:16:10 PM
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Lakefun, is really called aToast to the Layman. To the more intelucatual people at Pleasure Poinit it is called a PROST.Here`s another one.
Friends may come
Friends may go
Friends may peter you,you know
But we will be friends thru thick or thin
Peter out or peter in.
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| Name: |
CAT BOAT
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| Subject: |
However
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Date:
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10/23/2005 6:57:14 PM
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I know that during this time of year, you tend to visit the wooded areas looking for that once in a lifetime whitetail. The maximum hunting accessories allowed on a powerboat is one gunrack, one firearm, one spotlight and two camodressed women but they have to be wearing thong panties. If you violate any of those rules, you are in big trouble.
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| Name: |
WSMS
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"intelucatual ?"
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Date:
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10/24/2005 12:25:31 AM
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"intelucatual?" Please don't tell me you consider yourself an "intellectual," since you can't seem to spell it. Or even come close to spelling it, for that matter.
Maybe you should stop cracking beers while you still have some functional brain cells. Oops, too late!
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| Name: |
JIM
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"intelucatual ?"
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10/24/2005 2:42:53 PM
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WSWS, INTELLECTUAL, hope satisfies you and Sally.. I was telling a joke, not writing a term paper.
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SoldCat
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Define Powerboat...?
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10/24/2005 4:21:43 PM
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Cat Boat, Does LMPBA allow under certain circumstances aluminum pontoon boats to travel on the lake outside the set time period that travel above their set speed of 59.6 mph?
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| Name: |
CAT BOAT
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| Subject: |
Define Powerboat...?
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Date:
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10/24/2005 4:38:33 PM
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Absolutly not..... Any pontoon that is made from aluminum is forbidden to operate outside the set time period. You are borderline with your set-up now, being that you have outboards! Your biggest salvation concerning that issue is that you have a CAT. All CATS can operate anytime all the time.
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Chevy4x4
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Soooooo... technically?
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10/24/2005 7:23:43 PM
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If I strap a stroked 572ci onto my fiberglass bath tub and run 148 mph.. i'm legal? HELL YA
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| Name: |
CAT BOAT
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Legal?
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10/24/2005 10:13:52 PM
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I can help you with that here at my shop. Heck, lets go ahead and do two of them. I have one ready to go now. However, since you are a CAT owner, none of the rules apply to you. You can go out, and ride anytime you want, and as fast and furious as you would like. (That was voted into action last night by the LMPBA) Don't forget to go by and get lakeman, because he still has a ride coming. My insurance lay-up starts Monday the 31st, so the lake is yours for four months. If you run 140, we have to name your boat "Blinged it on", and I want to ride with you! Or, at least do the engine work.
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| Name: |
CAT BOAT
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OOPS
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10/24/2005 10:17:30 PM
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I was thinking that post came from SKATERCAT. But, we can put this 572 i have here in your boat anyway. There would be no rules for you with all those ponies....... Don't forget, only one gunrack in your Baja.
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| Name: |
lakefun
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NO REQUEAT GRANTED!
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Date:
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10/24/2005 10:20:48 PM
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I have read the laws and by laws of the LMPBA, and found where an amendment proposal can be made no more than 2 times. The Association must respond to all proposals within 72 hours or the proposal will become law. As it stands now the bass boat proposal has been shot down with no opposition. However the Assosiation has not responded to the 2nd and final pontoon boat proposal which was made on 10/22/2005 8:28:28 PM. Time is running out, we may sneak this one through. I hate to get one through this way, but in the interest of maintaining the beauty of Lake Martin I feel it is important to do what ever it takes.
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Feb
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| Subject: |
Navigable water
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Date:
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10/25/2005 8:00:03 AM
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This does not pass the "Common Sense Test". Yes, the ordinance maybe in effect (in this little dream/fun world senario), but they can not be enforced. We have all learned recently that the power boat(s) for enforcement can not plane out at a speed less than 35 MPH. Therefore, when they attempt to collar a pontoon boat that is traveling 12 to 15 MPH - oops what happens? The enforcement boat is nose to the sky, and the pontoon boat glides on away and takes pictures of the underside of the power boats. The enforcement vessel soon runs out of fuel after 50 attempts to halt the single vessel in violation of the ordinance. Enforcement boats soon develop a strategy of blasting past pontoon boats at 75 MPH + speeds to agitate pontoon boat occupants and cause them to spill their Pink Panty Pull-Downs. Agitated pontoon boat occupants soons take up skeet shooting with power boats serving as clay pigeons. Suddenly, we are back in the real world again. This post serves as the spoon to stir & apply the VSOP Cognac laced and sweentened topping served over the bread pudding.
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| Name: |
CAT BOAT
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| Subject: |
Navigable water
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Date:
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10/25/2005 10:34:04 AM
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omg, talk about real world!!!!!!!!!!
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| Name: |
SoldCat
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| Subject: |
OOPS
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Date:
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10/25/2005 2:12:31 PM
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LMPBA, correct me if I am wrong but now I have the technicality that I am looking for to drive my pontoon boat (aka cat boat) outside of restricted time periods. Considering that my pontoon boat packs air between the pontoons (aka sponsons) to free the water adhesion and has a third pontoon (aka center pod) to allow it to turn and if I get Cat Boat to install my brand new 604 ci Big Block then I will finally be able to bring all of the ladies to the rock this summer. Thank you LMPBA!!!
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| Name: |
CAT BOAT
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| Subject: |
OOPS
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10/25/2005 2:15:51 PM
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LMAO, you are crazy SKATERCAT......
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| Name: |
roswellric
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Beer & Women
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Date:
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10/25/2005 2:34:21 PM
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Friend of my soul, this goblet sip
'twill chase the pensive tear.
'Tis not so sweet as woman's lip
but oh, 'tis more sincere.
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| Name: |
Chevy4x4
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Well, how about a safe?
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Date:
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10/25/2005 3:16:48 PM
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How about a gun safe under the bow so I can change them out any time I feel the need?
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| Name: |
Lakeman
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Beer & Women
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Date:
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10/25/2005 6:37:03 PM
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I'll drink to the girls that do and I'll drink to the girls that don't,
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| Name: |
Lakeman
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Beer & Women
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Date:
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10/25/2005 6:40:51 PM
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but not to the girls that say they will and then decide they won't. But the girl I'll drink to from the break of day till the bewitching of the night, is the girl that says I never have but just for you I might.
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CAT BOAT
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Well, how about a safe?
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Date:
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10/25/2005 10:29:03 PM
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Well, you know those safes' are very heavy, and if that brings you below the 59.6mph mark, then you are not classified as a powerboat anylonger. So, that being said, it is your call.
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| Name: |
Chevy4x4
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Seadoo-Deer
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Date:
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10/26/2005 6:01:17 PM
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I guess i'll just carry a few extra clips of ammo for all those SeaDoo-Deer.
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CAT BOAT
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Seadoo-Deer
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Date:
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10/26/2005 9:02:37 PM
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Seadoo-Deer, that is funny thing to think of. I wonder what the season is for those animals. Is it better to shoot them with rimfire, centerfire, shotgun or Bravo One? Now that I think of it, there were no previsions in the LMPBA rule book for Seadoo's. Maybe there will be none on the lake. I always thought of them as Sea-lice.
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