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Name:	Capt D -	Reply
Subject:	Read and Weep
Date:	5/15/2007 7:18:53 AM

How Long Do We Have?

About the time our original thirteen states adopted their new

constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier:

"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot
exist as a permanent form of government."

"A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that
voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury."

"From that moment on, the majority always vote for the
candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship."

"The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the
beginning of history, has been about 200 years."

"During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through
the following sequence:

1. from bondage to spiritual faith;

2. from spiritual faith to great courage;

3. from courage to liberty;

4. from liberty to abundance;

5. from abundance to complacency;

6. from complacency to apathy;

7. from apathy to dependence;

8. From dependence back into bondage"

Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul, Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the 2000 Presidential election:

Number of States won by:

Gore: 19

Bush: 29

Square miles of land won by:

Gore: 580,000

Bush: 2,427,000

Population of counties won by:

Gore: 127 million

Bush: 143 million

Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by:

Gore: 13.2

Bush: 2.1

There are numerous other "coincidental" facts that come to mind... please think about it... and if you can refute the obvious with evidence to the contrary, I would welcome your response.

However, if what you have just read is true, there are also many inevitable consequences on the immediate horizon. For instance, professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory Bush won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of this great country. Gore's territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government
welfare..."

Olson believes the United State s is now somewhere between the "complacency and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population already having reached the "governmental dependency" phase.

One particularly pressing factor regarding all of the above is that if Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million
illegal immigrants and they vote, then we can say goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years.

The End.

Name:	Tallyman -	Reply
Subject:	Read and Weep
Date:	5/15/2007 2:18:03 PM

You are right on all counts, Captain.

(Except it is Hamline University).

Name:	Motown -	Reply
Subject:	Read and Weep
Date:	5/15/2007 3:52:46 PM

If democracy is such a fly-by-night deal then why are we trying to shove it down every one else's throats? and killing a bunch of folks in the process?

Name:	au67 -	Reply
Subject:	Why?
Date:	5/15/2007 7:42:10 PM

The objective of most wars is to kill them before they kill us.

Name:	spider -	Reply
Subject:	Read and Weep
Date:	5/15/2007 10:00:33 PM

All true about democracy.

The United States, however, is not a democracy. It is a republic. Our real battle is with those politicians who allow the constitution, that defines our republic, to be circumvented or ignored, and with the citizens who reelect them.

Name:	rude evin -	Reply
Subject:	Read and Weep
Date:	5/15/2007 10:13:19 PM

Motown.........to paraphase Winston Churchill, Democracy is the worst form of government there is...............except for all the rest!

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