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water_watcher
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Obama must be so honored
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12/11/2011 6:03:34 PM
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To think they created a Chia Pet to honor him ... how fitting
https://www.americanchia.com/?rtag=chiaobama&
URL: Chia Obama
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GoneFishin
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Obama must be so honored
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12/11/2011 6:17:10 PM
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Thanks. I can always depend on you to post info that is extremely valuable. Although you are trying to market a product made in China, I just ordered one and will grow it with pride. In keeping with the spirit of the holiday season, I would like to return the favor. Thanks again good buddy.
http://www.freakingnews.com/Chia-Pet-George-Bush-Pictures-20396.asp
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water_watcher
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Oh Jellyfish
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12/11/2011 6:50:13 PM
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Now you are showing you are a liar again .... (where do you live? Ashamed of where you really do and you have to lie) ... now I post a real website to purchase a real product ... and just like a true liberal, you have to post a spoof. And you can see the spoof was to make fun of the GREAT W that had less than 5% unemployment, but "pretending" there was a Chia made of him .... but you see this one is real of Obama ... how fitting. You must be so proud of Oblamer.
Why is it again that you continue to support him? What has he done to move this country in the right direction that you can be so proud of?
I'll bet it is silence from you again ... you are such a two bit loser.
You are a liar and a spineless coward. I'm spipping some VERY nice wine right now .... come on over neighbor and I'll share some ... you live right near me right? :)
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water_watcher
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I forgot to mention fishy
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12/12/2011 5:56:22 AM
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If the product is made in China, that is only because the unions in the US would have demanded too much to produce it and the taxes Obama keeps putting on business, provides incentive to make it in another country that sees low taxes drive business growth and employment for their people.
For some reason Oblamer thinks he can keep penalizing business and then be critical that they are not hiring more people. You see, if he really cared about the unemployed, he would lower business taxes and drive growth ... rather than tax them more so he can just continue more entitlement programs. Oblamer wants to keep people down and depending on the government ... that is how he wants to buy votes.
If I hear him say how the Bush tax cuts only helped the rich and they need to pay their fair share ... when 51% of working people pay no federal income tax. Tell me again who is not pauing their fair share? Tax everyone over $200K 100% and you pay for a month or two of Oblamers spending.
That song is getting very old.
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Talullahhound
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I forgot to mention fishy
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12/12/2011 8:43:15 AM
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What that tells me is that the number of "working" poor in this country is huge. Not everyone who is poor is sitting on their butt collecting welfare.
It wasn't just the corporate tax rate that drove manufacturers offshore. It was also the very seductive cheap labor rates and virtually no labor laws. It was "offsets" that foreign countries imposed on companies too -- that they had to guarantee so many jobs and technology would come to their country in order for them to buy from a company.
My observation is the most companies are painfully short-sighted in their pursuit of profits, and their immediate bottom line.
Now before you dismiss me for being a bureaucrat, just remember that a significant part of my government job had to do with keeping US companies from giving away our most significant defense technologies, and know how.
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water_watcher
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I forgot to mention fishy
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12/12/2011 8:54:54 AM
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I know and agree with most of what you said ... but to have 51% of those working not pay taxes, something is wrong with the tax system. It is the design of the dems to keep raising that level with the thinking they would not vote to change it and be taxed. That is why we need a more fair system.
As for business moving to other countries ... I am in the private sector and have been my whole life, mostly working for large corporations ... I have to tell you Hound ... taxes are the driving force. Yes their are labor savings, but there is also lost productivity and quality issues that offset that. But long term tax deals that offset much of the cost of building a plant and moving production is the driver.
The same happens here in the US when their is rapid writeoffs allowed for Cap-x ... the Bush writes offs for small businesses on the first $250K of spending each year is coming to an end this year ... there has been some activity to buy that new equipment etc, since they will lose it next year. But what happens next year? We need a system that encourages businesses to continue to invest here in the US to create the jobs, rather that let other countries do that and the jobs move elsewhere.
Obama is also restricting oil drilling that are all US jobs, and instead sending our tax dollars to Brazil for their drilling and telling them we will buy the oil. What a fool.
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Talullahhound
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I agree
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12/12/2011 9:18:02 AM
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with the need to overhaul the tax system on the whole.
I tend to agree with you about reducing tax rates on business. It appears when a state gives tax incentives to relocate, business responds. Our country needs to make the US a favorable environment for manufacturing to keep the jobs here and perhaps attracting foreign business.
I read an interesting article recently that made the argument that we should give up the manufacturing model, and realize that we have moved to a service industry model. The article likened it to when the US had to give up the largely agricultural model to a manufacturing model. I don't necessarily agree, but it was an interesting article.
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water_watcher
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KIA is a perfect example
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12/12/2011 4:04:43 PM
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Georgia gave them incentives, look at how many jobs it created, not only there, but all the businesses that support them. That was a no brainer decision and has paid off greatly in total tax revenues, new job creation, etc. They could have expanded in South Korea, and shipped the cars here. The same goes for Nissian in TN and BMW in SC. There is a huge ripple effect ... as there is when we tax businesses more and they move jobs to another country ... it is not just the tax revenue lost on those employees, but the ripple effect as well.
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Talullahhound
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KIA is a perfect example
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12/12/2011 10:05:39 PM
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When you are right, you are right. :-)
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Barneget
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Hyundai is the perfect example
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12/13/2011 12:26:51 PM
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Alabama convinced Hyundai to locate in Montgomery, bringing with it tier 1, 2 and 3 suppliers. KIA located in west Georgia to leverage a) the tax incentives and b) the supplier logistics. Alabama skimped on the KIA incentives, Georgia went big with the abatements. The KIA project brought additional jobs to suppliers already in place, and estimates are that nearly 40% of the KIA direct and temp work force are Alabama residents.
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water_watcher
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Hyundai is the perfect example
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12/13/2011 2:04:42 PM
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Both prove tax incentives and lower taxes in general create jobs ... not the Oblamer stimulus and green jobs loans that go bankrupt, and more entitlement and tax the rich and business, and more regulation. in fact I can not think of a program oblamer supports taht is stimulative to the economy ... and tax cuts are so much cheaper to the tax payers ... yet is gets on his soap box with the class warefare and lies to the americam people .... if we just could tax those greedy corporations and successful people more, that would solve our our problems. No it wouldn't, it would destroy more jobs and put the country deeper in debt as the tax roll keeps shrinking.
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MrHodja
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Hyundai is the perfect example
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12/13/2011 4:00:29 PM
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And the I-85 corridor from Opelika to the Georgia line is peppered with suppliers, I would imagine so they could easily supply both Hyundai and Kia.
I drove past the Kia plant last night around 8PM and the parking lot was 2/3 full of workers' cars, so they must be doing OK.
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Talullahhound
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Hyundai is the perfect example
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12/13/2011 4:28:50 PM
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The car industry has been such a boon to the South. One of the things I loved about Governor Riley is that he got it and went out on a limb to bring these industries to Alabama.
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MrHodja
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Hyundai is the perfect example
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12/13/2011 5:07:13 PM
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We love Korean food and the Hyundai plant was a boon to the Korean restaurant scene here in Montgomery...the plant brought the demand and guess what, the private sector, without ANY help from the Government, rose up to meet that demand. And we are the lucky bystanders with multiple options for REAL Korean food. Some of them use menus writtn completely in Hangul, with NO English translations and no English-speaking servers to interpret.
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MrHodja
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Hyundai is the perfect example
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12/13/2011 5:07:13 PM
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We love Korean food and the Hyundai plant was a boon to the Korean restaurant scene here in Montgomery...the plant brought the demand and guess what, the private sector, without ANY help from the Government, rose up to meet that demand. And we are the lucky bystanders with multiple options for REAL Korean food. Some of them use menus writtn completely in Hangul, with NO English translations and no English-speaking servers to interpret.
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MrHodja
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BTSOOM
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12/13/2011 5:09:22 PM
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Sorry folks, I swear I only hit the mouse button once to post. This is the second time this has happened in two or three days.
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buzzbuster
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BTSOOM
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12/14/2011 9:31:51 PM
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Sorry but if I can't read the menu in English or at the very least hear it in English I would not eat there no matter how good it is. This is America not any other country (learn the language).
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MrHodja
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BTSOOM
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12/14/2011 10:24:30 PM (updated 12/14/2011 10:56:42 PM)
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In this case they don't really care whether you eat there or not. Their target audience is Koreans. If Americans happen to come in, fine. Just don't expect a translation. It is pure supply and demand. If they have enough demand from folks who can read Hangul they don't need to have an English translation. As you said, if you don't like it you can go somewhere else to eat, and they won't really care.
Seeing as there are so many Alabamians dependent on Korean, Japanese, and German employment sources, maybe we need to make an effort to learn their languages. Unfortunately the days of America being top dog and the world cowering at our feet and having to learn our language are over. I know it is hard to take, and I don't like it one danmed bit, but it is true.
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