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D-dub
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AL-4748-AK
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9/1/2008 11:26:34 AM
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I wanted to let the owner/operator (blonde/female) of this huge cruiser (Sea Ray/Montgomery based) know that everyone on my pontoon boat is ok. The 6 foot wake you were throwing up (8/31 noon-Blue Creek area) while not on plane did completely swamp my boat but luckily no one was hurt. And thanks for pointing back and laughing as we sat there soaked. Thankfully my 7 month old wasn't on the boat yesterday or things could have been a little more severe. I have a MP buddy that I am informing, hopefully he will contact you. Thanks and happy boating, jackass.
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Dinky
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AL-4748-AK
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9/1/2008 9:40:44 PM
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The same thing happened to us on the Fourth of July around 10 AM. I was a little distracted watching a water patrol go by and all of a sudden a huge wave from a similar type of boat that you mentioned swamped our 25' pontoon. The water busted the latch on the front gate and loaded the boat with about 18 inches of water. Everything on the floor (shoes, cooler, etc) was washed to the back. The front fenders on the pontoon were also bashed in. We were out in the big water in between Chuck's slough and the buoys in front of the Stillwaters slough. There was a large V-hull ski boat behind us and I thought that it would flip over. The driver of our boat saw it coming, but it was too quick to warn us or change course. I have never felt concerned on the pontoon boat because it seems to glide over most waves, but I get a little nervous now when I see one of those kinds of boats around. I wish I had gotten the ID numbers...perhaps it was one and the same.
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| Name: |
slownez
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AL-4748-AK - Water Plow
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9/2/2008 8:30:14 AM
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I feel your pain. We had guest Sunday and made the trip to Chuck's for pizza. After leaving we turned back into the big water headed back toward the Ridge and met one of those 35-40' water plows headed toward Stillwaters. The wake was so large the ski boat in front of us almost flipped, only the driver remained in his seat, his family were all thrown to the floor. I was on 22' tri-toon and the wake came over the font of the boat. My wife was thrown from her seat and has multiple bruises and very sore. She will miss work this week.
Maybe the MP should enforce "water plowing" by those large boats as reckless driving as they endanger both people and property.
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Maybe the parents should give them a lesson on how to plane out the boat. I saw the same thing twice this weekend. When I looked at the drivers, they were young and unexperienced most likely. Planing is not taught in the boating book. It's a hands on experience. Maybe a note to the registered owner will get some attention and some lessons.
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| Name: |
D-dub
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Boating lessons needed!
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9/2/2008 10:11:36 AM
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I am not against big boats on LM, I am against bad big boat drivers. Your right about lessons, if the driver of this monster would learn to plane off (or idle when appropriate) there would be no issue, just dont PLOW. It concerns me that this has happened to so many people in the same area, sounds like the same person. Keep your eyes open for this one, she will swamp you.
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| Name: |
Nautique
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Boating lessons needed!
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9/2/2008 10:40:01 AM
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Not to take up for the big boats, but I have seen some really big waves produced by the wakeboard boats, as well as the 21' to 29' open bow runabouts, Sea Ray, Cobalt, etc. running around plowing also. Seems like there number on the lake is growing as well and probaly as past the number of 34' to 40' boats.
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4PAR
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AL-4748-AK
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9/2/2008 11:18:44 AM
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I have experienced the same thing numerous times and again this past weekend (not to the extent some of you did). But recently when I commented about the big boats and the wakes they leave behind I was quickly put in my place by Pier Pressure.
I know these people are just trying to enjoy the lake like rest of us but they need to be more considerate of others. Your average lake boat, whether it be a pontoon, bowrider or ski boat, is not built to handle those conditions.
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Nautique
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AL-4748-AK
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9/2/2008 12:23:19 PM
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Tell us, what is your average lake boat?
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Pontoon
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AL-4748-AK
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9/2/2008 12:38:29 PM
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quick your bitchn summer's over
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| Name: |
Pier Pressure
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AL-4748-AK
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9/2/2008 2:00:04 PM
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Any boat, PWCs included, can produce monster waves when plowing. I have defended big boats as a rule but I have always stated my equal discontent with operators who plow.
Next time get the boat name also, as that is a better identifier to the public than the registration numbers.
Also, learn how to handle approaching ANY wake, large or small. If you address the angle and speed at which you approach the wake you can actually make the difference yourself.
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D-dub
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AL-4748-AK
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9/2/2008 2:20:07 PM
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Kinda hard to read boat name when you are under freakin water. Thanks for the angle and approach tips I'll remember that the next time a white squall swamps my boat.
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Spot Remover
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AL-4748-AK
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9/2/2008 2:53:37 PM
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Pier--It is exactly this attitude that contributes to dangerous situations never being corrected. Hopefully, the squeaky wheel eventually gets greased. And, BTW, I dang sure don't see the original post as B1tching. Maybe it will take this happening to you for it to appear reasonable. Heck, sometimes there is no chance to change the angle of the boat around Stillwaters. Boats on the left, right, behind and coming at you. Just an entirely uneducated position on what appears to be a real problem.
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4PAR
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AL-4748-AK
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9/2/2008 3:19:07 PM
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I would say the average boat these days is around 21ft.
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ALSCN
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AL-4748-AK
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9/2/2008 3:35:19 PM
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From above.. "Just an entirely uneducated position on what appears to be a real problem.".. I dont' think PP was trying to support the boater that was plowing, but was talking about his disregard for such activity... but also stating the few simple things that a boater can do in order to try to protect yourself from wake created by these type of drivers.
I will say that in the past I have posted on here about other acts that are either careless/illegal. Like waverunners getting to close to the back of my boat, or bass boats coming within 100 ft of a dive flag. I know before the MP have responded that I need to try to get the registration number of the boat performing the act and a picture of the driver as well. Meaning that they would need some proof in order to write a ticket. Just my two cents.
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Pier Pressure
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AL-4748-AK
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9/2/2008 6:32:03 PM
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"Maybe it will take this happening to you for it to appear reasonable. "
We were in the open water, scuba diving, my wife and kids were swimming off the back of the boat. A big boat came by plowing (at more than 100 foot distance) and the wave threw my boat around to the point that bottles fell off my shelf, broke on the cabinet and poured out onto the carpet. Keep in mind that this has never happened before during normal operation of the boat (to include going to/from plane and making tight corners). My family could have been thrown under the swim platform and the boat could have came down on one of their heads. Water activities are inherantly dangerous. When ypu park in the middle of open water you can expect more wave action then in a slew.
The person wasn't operating at plane speed, so yes, it has happened to us. Just this weekend we watched smaller boats plow by us at the rock. We compared it to big boats going by at plane speed on the far Eastern side of the channel. The big boats on plane speed did not rock us like the smaller ones plowing through. I am not doubting that your boat had water wash over it, in fact that is why during storms there are small craft advisories. Unless they outlaw maintaining plow position this is a useless argument. Injuries, or damaged property are your only valid arguments, as your boat getting wet on the lake will not mean anything to anyone. Get the boats numbers, as you did, get the name if you can, and file a report. If you haven’t filed a report yet why not? You are accomplishing nothing by venting on this forum.
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jalcz
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AL-4748-AK
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9/2/2008 7:01:50 PM
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"Next time get the boat name also, as that is a better identifier to the public than the registration numbers."
What if the owner/operator is not one of those pretentious dweebs who names a boat as if it were a child?
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Summer Lover
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AL-4748-AK
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9/2/2008 10:20:13 PM
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If I were to name a child I might consider jalcz, however, the boss stated that the name would be “Summer Love”. So it was said, so it happened. Even without that, there is a name, a model number, and identifying colors on most boats, ID numbers for dry docking on many – and there are very few occasions that you would not be able to come up with most of the above information… unless you were not paying attention to your surroundings. If that is the case, also be on the lookout for errant islands and bridge supports, they will come out of nowhere.
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| Name: |
wix
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Names on large boats.
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9/2/2008 11:12:29 PM
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Most large boats are Documented by the Coast Guard; usually required for financing purposes The Coast Guard requires a name and a home port as part of the titling, even for lake boats. That's probably why most of them have names.
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jalcz
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Names on large boats.
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9/3/2008 1:21:31 AM
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In that case, I propose we do away with the old, hard-to-enforce boat law, and enact a new one: if your boat is so big that the Coast Guard has to know about it, it's too darn big for Lake Martin! :-)
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Summer Lover
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Names on large boats.
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9/3/2008 7:41:26 AM
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What about “if the Coast Guard has to regulate it – then it is too big for the lake”. All those who have boats without Coast Guard certification, feel free to enjoy Lake Martin, the rest of us scallywags will have to weigh anchor and move to a lake less traveled… Aaarrrggghhh.
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CAT BOAT
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Names on large boats.
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9/3/2008 9:28:10 AM
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Qoute/wix... "Most large boats are Documented by the Coast Guard; usually required for financing purposes The Coast Guard requires a name and a home port as part of the titling, even for lake boats. That's probably why most of them have names"
Exactly. Instead of a State registration, it is a U.S. documentation. Most do this because they may travel to many states, or in some cases different Countries. Size does not matter. It is the preference of the owner. (Or financing, Insurance institution) Boats used in several areas/regions are often Documented with the US Coast Gaurd for insurance purposes. In my case, I choose a State of Alabama registration. Therefore, my Insurance Company restricts me to operation within' a 300 mile radius of Prattville Alabama unless prior written consent is provided by them. But then again, some just like to name their boats because that is what they like. I have seen some pretty clever names through the years. My personal favorite.... "Bling it on". But, that boat is gone now. My .02 worth!
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| Name: |
Nutin Bitein
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Best boat names.....
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9/3/2008 10:43:17 AM
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I like "THE OFFICE"....... I'll be at the office all weekend.
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| Name: |
D-dub
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Best boat names.....
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9/3/2008 10:53:38 AM
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I've always liked "Sails Call". I'll be out on a "Sails Call" the rest of the day.
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Summer Lover
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Best boat names.....
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9/3/2008 11:05:04 AM
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And a nice boat it is.......
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jalcz
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Best boat names.....
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9/5/2008 6:52:57 PM
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Anyone who names a boat anything other than "Little Wee-wee" or "Compensating" or "You're Looking at my Manhood" is fooling themselves. (Not fooling anyone else, but just themselves.)
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| Name: |
H2X
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Best boat names.....
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9/6/2008 10:25:07 AM
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Can you explain why you feel that way?
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