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Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   What Did It Come To???????
Date:   6/15/2012 1:24:13 PM

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Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   What Did It Come To???????
Date:   6/15/2012 6:45:50 PM (updated 6/15/2012 6:46:46 PM)

This will become no big deal as time goes on. I had my doubts but now consider it just part of changes that are always occurring. There are some who want to go back to separate but equal schools. Wallace stood in the doorway of U. of Alabama until troops led the students in. Now, the fans cheer the blacks who took the Tide to Number 1 in football. We adopt to change and look back and wonder what the fuss was all about at the time of the change.



Name:   MAJ USA RET - Email Member
Subject:   What HAS Come To
Date:   6/17/2012 2:09:23 PM

Fishy… your historical perception is accurate. 

 

However, I do not believe I would have functioned well in the military if I thought some man was ogling (attracted to) me. I cannot imagine anything grosser than the sexual behavior of homosexual men.  This would be the stain on my appreciation of any man… no matter how well he performed professionally.

 

This, of course, has much to do with the culture in which I was raised.  I cannot bend my mind around men having “physical” love for one another.  I do not… would not… ever tell a man… including my father or my brother that I love them.  Actually, I don’t.  Instead… and appropriately I harbor a deep, abiding respect for them.

 

As my generation… and the one before me pass on, perhaps the concept of men “lying with each other” will become more accepted.  There has surely been (is) a desensitization campaign ongoing.  Our children see it regularly on television.

 

I can see two girls or women walking hand-in-hand… and I think nothing of it (nothing to do with titillation).  If I see two men holding hands… my stomach turns.  There is a basic psychology to this.

 

Would be nice if we had a psychologist on this forum (non-Freudian, please).

 





Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   What HAS Come To
Date:   6/17/2012 5:26:12 PM

When you served, I am sure you served with gays without knowing it. Now, they can come out and serve so you would know who to avoid. It would be interesting if those you served with who were gay emailed you to let you know and how you would handle it. While I have no problem associating with gays, I have only witnessed two kissing one time and I had and still have a hard time accepting it. As to telling your dad, brother, or son you love them is so different than trying to associate it to your not accepting gay guys. You need to get over it and stop associating the word love with sex. It's Fathers Day, call your Dad and tell him you have always respected him but you love him too and regret you waited this long to tell him. I lost my Dad a few years ago and expected each time I saw him to be the last as he was bed ridden so I always held his hand and said Dad....always remember I love you. I could never bring myself to just say good bye.



Name:   MAJ USA RET - Email Member
Subject:   What HAS Come To
Date:   6/17/2012 7:18:59 PM


My father knows VERY WELL what I feel about him.  And I did call him today.

That said… I do NOT believe that government has any business in the bedrooms… of neither hetero- nor homo-sexual persons… be it genetic or environmental (I don’t have a grasp on that). 

 

I believe that marriage is (a sacrament and a protected special biological affirmation) between a man and a woman.  I believe that individuals of either sexual orientation should be allowed to enter into any binding, civil contract to which the two parties agree, and understand.  I do not believe that the government should impose upon taxpayers, liability for specious sexual behavior (i.e. spousal rights).

 

Folks will soon be wanting to marry animals.  Go ahead… laugh… but, before you do read again Fishy’s post (above in this thread - 6/15/2012 6:45:50).





Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   [Message deleted by author]
Date:   6/17/2012 8:19:39 PM (updated 6/17/2012 8:20:06 PM)




Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   What HAS Come To
Date:   6/17/2012 8:19:39 PM

Folks will soon be wanting to marry animals. Go ahead… laugh… but, before you do read again Fishy’s post (above in this thread - 6/15/2012 6:45:50). I sure hope they will at least marry an animal of the opposite sex. We sure don't need some dude marrying his male lab.







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