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lotowner
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No Swords at Graduation
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6/10/2009 9:23:07 PM
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U.S.N.A. Graduation this year
Washington Times Article
.......Obama's protectors have ordered graduating midshipmen....and I suppose Commissioned Officers through Flag rank...to leave their swords at home.
Ceremonial swords never seemed to bother the Secret Service for any previous President. And before World War II, the swords
were not particularly "ceremonial", I've seen some of those blades, boarding actions did occur on the China Station pre-war against river pirates, warlords, etc. Those swords were worn not just to graduation, but to Inaugurations, in the receiving line
at the White House afterward, to the Inaugural Ball. Somehow nobody gave it a second thought. Somehow even Presidents in the past didn't presume to specify items of uniform. But of course, what worked for Harry Truman, Ronald Reagan, F.D.R., the Bushes, T.R., any other rational non-cult leader.....doesn't work for this
former state senator anointed by the Chicago machine. Does he secretly consider our Naval and Military leaders "the enemy"?
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rude evin
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No Swords at Graduation
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6/10/2009 9:50:22 PM
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The media is getting all cranked up on 'domestic terrorism' now-a-days.........so maybe the newly graduated cadets are not above being suspect!!!! :-}
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Summer Lover
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No Swords at Graduation
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6/11/2009 9:00:35 AM
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Just a prelude to our protection being provided by the "Blue Helmets" - it is only fair after all.
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Talullahhound
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Pulled from the Web
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6/11/2009 9:30:15 AM
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Midshipmen have not worn swords to graduation at any time in recent history. They are not prescribed for the ceremony. Officers in grade O-3 (LT) and below are not required to even have a sword. It is an optional uniform item. Only officers in grade O-4(LCDR) and above are required to have a sword.
I am a USNA Grad. Swords are not a part of the ceremony. I was there for ceremonies when Clinton, Gore, Bush, etc were in attending. No swords then either.
In response to Kent Greenough, officers do not take an oath of allegiance to the President, the oath is to the Constitution. An order from the President or anyone else to “leave your Constitution at home” would be unlawful according the the UCMJ and would not have to be followed.
This is nothing but someone making controversy where there is none.
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lotowner
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6/11/2009 10:07:44 AM
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Just checked from The Washington Times at 9:10 AM this morning and the same story was still there.
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Talullahhound
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I believe the Washington Times
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6/11/2009 4:19:35 PM
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ran it. It just turns out that it wasn't accurate.
I had something I said "tongue in cheek" leaked to the WT a few years ago. They attempted to get my comment in an email to my office at 9pm; and then they ran it. Taken totally out of context.
So let's just say I'm not a fan of the WT, although I do like their Food section on Wednesdays.
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lotowner
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6/11/2009 9:27:39 PM
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More info on the sword controversey
Inside the Beltway
By John McCaslin (Contact) | Thursday, May 21, 2009
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/may/21/inside-the-beltway-97423759/
SWORDLESS SAILORS
Graduating midshipmen of the U.S. Naval Academy in Annapolis are being told in writing to leave at home or in their vehicles all "ceremonial swords" and anything else "that might be considered a weapon or a threat by screeners" for Friday's outdoor commencement ceremonies featuring an address by President Barack Obama.
Inside the Beltway has obtained the academy's list of prohibited items for this year's graduation exercises, which, besides ceremonial swords, includes umbrellas.
Yes, cell phones and texting are still allowed.
USNA: Ceremonial swords on the prohibited list since after 9/11.
If you saw this story about how midshipmen’s ceremonial swords were on the prohibited list for graduation ceremonies, you were probably not pleased about it. Neither was I - but I checked with the Public Affairs office for the Naval Academy, and they informed me that this policy was put into place in response to 9/11. It is, bluntly, a stupid policy - if our midshipmen cannot be trusted to not assassinate the President, we’re in much worse trouble than we thought - but it’s also not the administration’s fault.
I encourage President Obama to change this policy and give his officers their swords back. We are citizens of a Republic, after all - they are not subjects, and he is not a king.
First Nobama made all military units remove the bolts of their rifles before they marched in the Inagural Parade, now this?
From today's "You Couldn't Make It Up Even If You Tried" file.......Obama's protectors have ordered graduating Midshipmen....and I suppose Commissioned Officers through Flag rank...to leave their swords at home. Full Dress White includes "wear sword". More to the point...those badges of office have been earned in a manner Obongo and his minions just wouldn't begin to understand. Important traditions that inspire are kind of lost on the red banner crowd, apparently.
Further, ceremonial swords never seemed to bother the Secret Service for any previous President. And before World War II, the swords were not particularly "ceremonial", I've seen some of those blades, boarding actions did occur on the China Station pre-war against river pirates, warlords, etc. Those swords were worn not just to graduation, but to Inaugurations, in the receiving line at the White House afterward, to the Inaugural Ball. Somehow nobody gave it a second thought. Somehow even Presidents in the past didn't presume to specify items of uniform.
But of course, what worked for Harry Truman, Ronald Reagan, F.D.R., the Bushes, T.R., any other rational non-cult leader.....doesn't work for this former state senator anointed by the Chicago machine.
Does he secretly consider our Naval and Military leaders "the enemy"? Perhaps the message this sends escaped his handlers. Sad. And .....follow me on this Obama and minions.....insulting. Actually it's contemptible.
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Talullahhound
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Inside the Beltway
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6/12/2009 3:50:46 PM
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I would never take anything I read there was anything more than a grain of salt. Same for "Inside the Pentagon". If you read it in either of those columns, go look to confirm it someplace else.
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