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au67
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Governor's letter
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10/2/2007 8:13:08 PM
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See link below for Governor Riley's letter to the Corp of Engineers.
URL: http://blog.al.com/bn/2007/10/the_letter_riley_criticizes_co.html
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H2OGRL
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Governor's letter
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10/2/2007 10:04:35 PM
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Thanks for sharing the letter. Some people think all we care about on Lake Martin is recreation - there are other far more serious implications that most of us are concerned with. That's not to say I don't LOVE the recreation part!
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PC Al
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Governor's letter
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10/2/2007 11:21:35 PM
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You tell 'em Gov. Kick a** and take names later.
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Pier Pressure
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Governor's letter
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10/3/2007 11:31:18 AM
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"Allatoona is still more than 25 feet above the bottom of the conservation pool."
What is Lake Martins "conservation pool"
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LifeTime Laker
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Governor's letter
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10/3/2007 12:20:26 PM
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Seems like the Gov has some of the same concerns as I have repeatedly expressed. Industrial uses and OTHER municipal water systems. But he is dead wrong about being able to refill the lake. It always refilled when the draw down was 50 ft every year.
Now in contrast the HOBO has NEVER expressed ANY concern for anything downstream. After all it is only a pulp mill and a NEW wood chip plant that only costs 9.3 million, chump change to the HOBO's apparently. The wonderful Prez even told one member to "take his boat to the gulf where it belongs' when that member expressed concern about the Alabama River.
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ecstasypoint
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Governor's letter
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10/3/2007 1:50:15 PM
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Is it possible that the governor knows more about the water situation than we do? Ltl says the governor is dead wrong because the lake always refilled after 50ft. draw down. Is it possible that conditions are different today than they were then? I think the fact that the governor is mentioning things like failure of the power grid, lack of sound drinking water, and the possibility that the lake won't refill is something we should take seriously instead of assuming we know more about the lake than he does (as one poster suggests, although many of you will not see it). Should we get ahead of the ball instead of waiting until the divers and the barge and the team of experts fail? Why do we have to wait to be told to conserve water?
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LifeTime Laker
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Governor's letter
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10/3/2007 3:36:28 PM
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Yea there is ONE thing different now, we are in a drought. The worst drought in history. The lake MAY NOT make it to 490 nest year, but It will rain, and rain refills the lake. A lot of water was passed through even this year because no one had a crystal ball. Had all the rain been held back this year the lake would have filled up. It would not nave stayed full, but it could have gotten full.
My issue for week now has been that the HOBO's have shown NO CONCERN for anyone downstream. OSMS has REPEATEDLY shown nothing but contempt and disdain for those that are downstream suffering. Comment like 'they only spent 9.3 million dollars on the new, not yet opened wood pellet plant" and they have 'alternate transportation" have proven that HE cares NOTHING about the folks downstream. It is their water as much as it ours. It may affect our recreation, but it affects their JOBS. I told a story of the 1988 drought that nearly shut down the paper mill in Childersburg due to oxygenation of the water. OSMS could care less, as long as there is a way to launch boats on Martin.
Arrogance and selfishness are no way to win friends. The Gov is looking out for ALL of the 'stakeholders' of the entire river system. HOBO and OneSideMySide ONLY care about Martin and it comes through in every thing they do. That is what will have the powers that be dismiss them. Oh, they will get lip service, but that is about it. Just ask SLISA.
AC will get water if the lake is taken down to nothing but the river. Temporary accomodations WILL be made. If the lake doesn't fill up next year, it will the next. THE RAINS WILL COME.
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LifeTime Laker
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AND BTW....
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10/3/2007 4:50:14 PM
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Why would they fail? There is LOTS of water still in Lake Martin. I am no engineer, but I can promise you, I could accomplish that task. It ain't rocket science, it is plumbing. I have done LOTS of it in my time.
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ecstasypoint
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AND BTW....
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10/4/2007 3:20:04 PM
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I was being sarcastic about the failure. (I've noticed that sarcasm is not particularly effective on this forum.) My point was that NO ONE knows for sure what we are going to face in the coming months, so I would really like to see us hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. I do wonder, though, if it's a simple plumbing exercise, why the team of experts? Why the national news coverage? Since it hit the national news, folks from all over the country are calling me up and asking me what the heck is going on. If it's not a biggie, then why does the governor sound so desperate?
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That's what politicians do. It is a dire situation, no doubt, but it is not as critical to AC as some are leading you to believe. How many sprinkler systems are run into the lake? AC getting water is the exact same principal, only on a larger scale. Why the team of experts? Only the Mayor can answer that, but in most cases when it is not your money you are spending, folks go to extremes. The ole CYA theory.
Now when addressing the ENTIRE river system (ACT), yes things are getting critical!! This has been my position all along. So many folks on this forum are only concerned about how it affects THEM. They have shown nothing but disdain for anyone, be it individual, town or industry, downstream. They feel like all the water should be held in Lake Martin. To what end? So it will be easier for us to PLAY next year. Sorry, that doesn't cut it in my world. Having seen folks worry about their JOBS from day to day in '88, I understand how critical river flows are. OSMS has harped on the dredging barge downstream as if that was the only downstream issue. It isn't. Not even close. And to be ready to toss aside the wood chip plant and the associated jobs because they 'only' spent 9.3 million to build it shows and arrogance I can't begin to comprehend. Not to mention the millions spent on the dredging project to date that would have been wasted. But to him it doesn't matter, as long as he gets to keep water in Lake Martin, beside it was federal money, not state. <sarcasm off>
I love this lake more than any ten of you. I claim to have lake water in my veins instead of blood. Almost all of my greatest memories in life involve the lake in one way or another. But I also love my fellow man. IF that means I have to suffer through another summer of lower that normal water, so be it. I will NEVER put my recreation above the lives and jobs of others downstream. And yes, I know it affects the lives and jobs of some folks here too. As I have stated over and over, some of these folks are my friends. But the reality is, those are a small minority compared to the rest of us to whom it is simply recreation.
There is still LOTS of water out there to enjoy. Some ramps will get extended this winter. The rains will come. The lake will rise. You can quote me on that!!
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| Name: |
CAT BOAT
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Why.....
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10/4/2007 6:18:53 PM
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All of a sudden, the Tallapoosa River is flowing like crazy. I cross it two times a day. Once in the a.m. and once in the p.m. I have not seen that river with so much current in over six months. Just when they say flows will be cut, it seems they increase. Can someone explain?
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tiger2661
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Why.....
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10/4/2007 8:42:06 PM
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Are you sure you are not just seeing the velocity not the flow? Flow equals velocity times area.
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BoatsRFun
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Why.....
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10/4/2007 9:08:59 PM
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I drive over the 231 bridge over the Tallapoosa river 2 times a day as well, and I have not seen it this high and flowin' like it is now in several months.....
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| Name: |
360degrees
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Governor's letter
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10/24/2007 11:24:16 AM
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