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Talullahhound
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The SP Wardrobe Fiasco
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11/6/2008 8:59:35 AM
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I have to say, now the election is over, I got a kick out of the Sarah Palin wardrobe issue. As a woman, I thought her clothes looked really good. What woman doesn't want to look good, particularly if you are going to spend your days in front of a lot of people.
There is an article in the NY Times today about tensions between the McCain camp and the Palin camp, and one of the issues is the clothes. Supposedly, the RNC told her she could spend around $25K for 3 suits for the convention and 3 suits for the Fall campaign; and they were appalled when she spent $150K. Well, any woman knows that if you are going to shop at Saks and Neiman's that $25K wouldn't buy much. The article now says that the buying included clothes for her family and included luggage. Take $150K and divide it by her family members and it's not that much money.
It also says that they are considering sending auditors up to Alaska to inventory the clothes (visions of men in green eyeshades pawing through the woman's closet and inventorying her shoes... LOL). She says that the clothes are not hers and she will give them back. One has to wonder what will happen to them? Hopefully if they take them, they will donate them to a charity like 9-5, that provides clothing to women who are re-entering the workforce.
Although I don't agree with her politics, I thought whoever dressed Sarah did a great job. And I think they should let her keep the clothes, or let her buy them wholesale. They were likely tailored to her. And after seeing her yesterday in jeans and a sweatshirt, she's still in the public eye, and she still needs to look good.
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AUCATZ
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The SP Wardrobe Fiasco
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11/6/2008 10:30:30 AM
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Even more interesting are the articles about Michelle Obama's wardrobe. It outlines all the designers she has used and details what specific outfits she has worn cost. Except for her $350 J Crew outfit she wore on the View, her dresses routinely cost $3000 - $5000 a pop and come from specific designers.
Who cares? And why was it an issue only for Sarah Palin. As for her 'politics' they are basically what conservatives stand for - no abortions, Christian values, the right to bear arms, etc. What's not to like? I'm very happy that California conservatives voted in the gay marriage ban. People can go have a civil ceremony for whatever they want, but gay 'marriages' are completely against Christian moral codes and the Bible.
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Talullahhound
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AUCATZ
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11/6/2008 10:48:42 AM
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Don't misunderstand me -- I'm not criticizing Sarah about the clothes. I thought she looked great. And I doubt that she chose where she shopped. I figured that someone arranged for her to work with a personal shopper and stylist. She may not have been away of the prices on the stuff they brought her either. I guess I thought the funny part was the idea of auditors going up and sorting through the clothes and the shoes.
It got me to thinking about whether they buy clothes for the men to wear...
I think Michelle Obama buys a mix of things, like most of us do. I thought she looked pretty good most of the time, but didn't really like the dress that she wore at the acceptance speech. I thought it made her look dumpy. I can't imagine the wardrobe you would need for attending all those functions day after day.
Just a little side fun was seeing what the women wore -- loved the saffron suit that McCain's wife had on election night. Ever since I retired, I have little call to get dressed in suits or dressier clothes, so it was fun for me to see what they wore.
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ALSCN
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The SP Wardrobe Fiasco
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11/6/2008 10:52:11 AM
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You know what, this is ridiculous. I would like to see exactly where you are getting your information I am sure somehow it was linked to a democratic website. Honestly, SP was running for VP of our nation. Did you know that every suit Obama wears cost approx 5000 for the suit alone, not to account for any accessories, and I am sure his shoes were not bought at Wal-mart. I can't even believe that this came up during the election. Obviously the democratic party trying to grab straws... WHO CARES!
As for what would happen to the clothes. From the moment that the democratic press got a hold of the idea that 150k was spent on clothes, the republican party has stated the same thing... that after the election the clothes would be given back to the republican party and auctioned off. I guarantee in the end they will more than likely get more for the clothes then they orginally purchased them for.
I personally don't care that SP used 150k, you know what I do care about... is the fact that BO used more money in his campaign then any other presidential candidate in HISTORY.... hello... was it necessary... what I would really like to know is how well his campaign funds were audited? May we hope the money didn't come from enemy's of our great country in hopes of electing him so our country would fall apart.
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AUCATZ
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AUCATZ
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11/6/2008 11:00:16 AM
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I agree. I think SP said she didn't do the shopping - that clothes where brought to her.
Anyway, leading ladies need to look smart. I think the Obama kids look great also. Very classy.
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AUCATZ
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The SP Wardrobe Fiasco
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11/6/2008 11:03:20 AM
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We need reform on campaign financing. With a free internet to communicate, there is no excuse for such high costs. It's really obscene what was spent on this election by both parties - especially when the country is in such bad fiscal shape. I think we need campaign financing laws without loopholes that allow the candidates to opt out.
And no - I'm not saying this because my campaign lost and had less money. The excess of money spent is just rediculous.
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| Name: |
AUCATZ
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may need the clothes...
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11/6/2008 11:04:48 AM
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if Stevens gets ousted and she is appointed Senator, lol.
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| Name: |
Talullahhound
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The SP Wardrobe Fiasco
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11/6/2008 11:08:30 AM
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What are you getting so fired up about? I'm talking about clothes, not the election. THIS IS NOT A POLITICAL THREAD - or at least I didn't intend for it to be.
And this was a legimate story in the NY Times today about "tensions" within the party and this was an item that was mentioned. Apparently people in the McCain camp were ticked off to find out how much money was spent because they "gave" her camp a budget of $25 - 30 K. You likely don't shop, but it's amusing to me that they would think that would buy enough clothes to go through the campaign with. And that kind of money doesn't go very far in Saks or NM. I don't think Sarah probably picked the stores. I'm sure that a personal shopper or stylist picked clothes for her. She likely didn't even know how much they cost. I'm sure someone else on her campaign staff wrote the check.
If you read what I posted to AUCATZ, you would know that I found it amuxing that they said that they were considering sending auditors up to inventory the clothes and shoes. As a WOMAN, I find this notion very amusing to think that a bunch of green eyeshaders would be pawing through her closet.
I don't agree with Palin's politics, but I thought she looked good. I thought Cindy McCain looked good. I am a WOMAN and I notice clothes. I really don't care what either of them or Michelle Obama or her husband spend on their clothes. I thought Obama's clothes looked good on him and if he can afford to spend $5K per suit, well why shouldn't he?
For heavens sake, get over it. The election is OVER. McCain is back in AZ, Sarah's back in Alaska and Obama's likely in Washington putting together his transition team. I'm sorry your candidate didn't win and you feel so touchy about it. But in another 4 years, there will be another election.
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Talullahhound
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The SP Wardrobe Fiasco
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11/6/2008 11:27:35 AM
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I agree with you that. Not just clothes. It costs way too much to run an election. Sheez, think about the money spent and think about all the things that could be done with it.
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ALSCN
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The SP Wardrobe Fiasco
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11/6/2008 11:54:05 AM
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Honestly I am really not touchy about it. Maybe your defensive manner made you read it that way. Note my grasping straws comment... it was meant to make fun of the fact that it was brought up in the first place. When Michelle Obama went on Leno, that was the topic of discussion... it's amusing... her husband was about to be president and all they could talk about was how much money SP spent on clothes... I think it is a VERY sad state in our society when people pay so much attention to the news and let them sway votes over something as menial as clothes. I think they all looked good, it was one heck of a battle. I am amazed with the citizens of this nation that they showed up and voted. That makes me proud, it is what our Forefathers wanted, it is the foundation that this country was builty on.
But you know, I am a little touchy about the whole financial spending bit in general. One camp spent more money then both candidates combined in the prior election. That is sickening. We are a nation in financial turmoil and money can be blown that way... it's sickening. 30 minute commercial ads in the last week of the election... come on, who still had to make up there minds by then? Not enough people to run 30 minute speeches on 4 major networks. Overkill. I just hope the same overkill is used in protecting the securities of this great nation.
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Swimmer27
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OXYMORON??
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11/6/2008 4:39:53 PM
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"legimate story in the NY Times"--- That is one if I ever saw one.
Michelle went on Leno in the $350 JCrew outfit ONLY because of the 'contorversry" that had been created over SP's wardrobe. I challenge any of you go back and search and find me ANY other picture if her in ANTYTHING besides diesigner crap. The Obama's are too good for 'off the rack' clothing. The election night dress was VERY telling, and ugly to boot. Red is the color of revolution. O had to send a message to his palistinion friends.
Want I want to see is campaign finance investigations about where all the money came from. MILLIONS donated from pre-paid untracable CC, overseas donations. even $260 from an aunt who lives in abject poverty, not to mention BEING ILLIGAL
WHERE DID THE MONEY COME FROM??
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| Name: |
Talullahhound
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The SP Wardrobe Fiasco
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11/6/2008 8:07:16 PM
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That's something we can agree on -- too much money is spent on campaigns. I personally thought the BO 30 minute "infomercial" was a bit much. I think I'd like to see a ceiling on campaign spending and let both parties get creative about how it gets spent. I think AUCATZ made the point in this or another thread that in the age of the internet communications, it's unthinkable how much they spend.
I have a friend who is about to run for the VA House of Representatives and he's already wondering how he's going to raise the money he needs to get elected. I once attended something called the Capitol Hill Workshop where they parade in various members of the Hill and Hill Staff to talk about how things work. I'll never forget a Congressman who came to talk said from the first day he took office, he had to get a $1000 per day in campaign contributions to be able to run again.
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Talullahhound
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OXYMORON??
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11/6/2008 8:17:46 PM
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I'm curious -- what do you consider the "legitimate media" and where do you get your facts?
I'll say it again -- the most amusing thing about the whole story is imagining a bunch of guys with green eyeshades up pawing through SP's closet and inventorying her suits and shoes. What a waste of time. The election is over, the money is spent and I personally believe she should be allowed to keep the clothes.
I don't think Michelle Obama spent other than her own money on her wardrobe, but I don't know that for sure. And I'm pretty sure Cindy McCain paid for her own clothes, which I can tell you, are DESIGNER clothes.
Hardly anyone in public life wears off the rack clothes. Most probably because they don't have time to shop and they probably have personal shoppers who do it for them. Most of them get designer clothes at a reduced rate -- remember Nancy Reagan? And personally, I don't see anything wrong with it. It's good exposure for the designers and probably brings in business. I'm sure the next round of Washington ladies are figuring out where Michelle shops and will be ordering clothes.
You have the next four years to spend investigating where the money came from. What is your degree in? - Maybe you could set up shop and investigate and audit and then write a book about your findings. That ought to keep you busy.
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