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Name:	water_watcher -	Reply
Subject:	Healthcare Bill ... read
Date:	7/28/2009 6:54:53 AM

Congress may have over looked these trying to pass it so quickly.
Can we all agree this goes way beyond the role of government? Can anyone honestly say they think this is good?

Pg 22 of the HC Bill
MANDATES the Govt will audit books of ALL EMPLOYERS THAT SELF-INSURE!!

Pg 30 Sec 123 of HC bill -
THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE that decides what treatments/benefits you get

Pg 354 Sec 1177 -
Govt WILL RESTRICT ENROLLMENT of Special needs people

Pg 42 of HC Bill -
The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your HC Benefits for you.

PG 50 Section 152 in HC bill -
HC WILL BE PROVIDED TO ALL NON-US CITIZENS, illegal or otherwise

Pg 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill-
ALL NON-RESIDENT ALIENS will be exempt from individual taxes. (Resident Americans will pay)

Pg 58 HC Bill - Govt will have real-time access to individuals finances & a National ID Healthcard will be issued

Pg 59 HC Bill lines 21-24
Govt will have direct access to your bank accounts for electronic funds transfer, no choice

Pg 72 Lines 8-14
Govt is creating an HC EXCHANGE to bring private HC plans under Govt control.

PG 84 Sec 203 HC bill -
Govt mandates ALL benefit pkgs for private HC plans in the Exchange

PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill -
Specs. for of Benefit Levels for Plans

Pg 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18
The Govt will use groups i.e., ACORN & Americorps to sign up
individuals for Govt HC plan

pg 124 lines 24-25
HC No company can sue Government on price fixing.
No "judicial review" against Government Monopoly

pg 127 Lines 1-16
HC Bill -DOCTORS/ AMA - The Govt will tell you what your salary will be.

Pg 145 Line 15-17
An Employers MUST auto enroll employees into public option plan. NO CHOICE

Pg 126 Lines 22-25
Employers MUST pay for HC for part time employees AND their families.

Pg 149 Lines 16-24
ANY Employer with payroll 400k & above, who does not provide public option, pays 8% tax on all payroll

pg 150 Lines 9-13
Businesses with payroll btw 251k & 400k who doesn't provide public
option pays 2-6% tax on all payroll

Pg 167 Lines 18-23
ANY individual who doesn't have acceptable HC according to the Govt will be taxed 2.5% of income

Pg 195 HC Bill -
Officers & employees of HC Admin (GOVT) will have access to
ALL Americans finances/personal records

PG 203 Line 14-15 HC -
"The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax"

READ THE FOLLOWING LINES SLOWLY....

Pg 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill-
Govt WILL REDUCE PHYSICIAN SERVICES for Medicaid Seniors,
and low income people.

Pg 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill -
Doctors, doesn't matter what specialty you have, you'll all be paid the same

PG 425 Lines 4-12
Govt mandates Advance Care Planning Consultations. (seniors)

Pg 425 Lines 17-19
Govt will instruct & consult regarding living wills, durable powers of atty. Mandatory!

PG 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3
Govt provides approved list of end of life resources, guiding you in death

PG 427 Lines 15-24
Govt mandates program for orders for end of life.
The Govt has a say in how your life ends

Pg 429 Lines 1-9
An "adv. care planning consult" will be used frequently as patients health deteriorates

PG 429 Lines 10-12
"adv. care consultation" may include an ORDER FOR END OF LIFE plans. AN "ORDER" from GOV

Pg 429 Lines 13-25 -
The govt will specify which Doctors can write an end of life order.

PG 430 Lines 11-15
The Govt will decide what level of treatment you will have at end of life.

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	Healthcare Bill ... read
Date:	7/28/2009 7:25:09 AM

Is the Bill on line? I would like to check it out.

I read this first as a private citizen and I agree that it has way more government involvement in health care than I want.

Then I read it as a former government bureaucrat and I see a lot of "oversight" language and provisionary language which I would expect to see. That's why I'd like to check it out.

The scariest thing to me is the part about Drs. Some of the best and brightest will no longer want to go to Medical school and into the practice of medicine.

I have a good friend who lives in Canada. I saw what her sister went through when she had a very rare form of breast cancer. I definitely don't want a system like that.

And the idea of giving illegals free healthcare just really ticks me off.

Name:	water_watcher -	Reply
Subject:	Healthcare Bill ... read
Date:	7/28/2009 7:59:29 AM

I believe it is but do not have the link handy. I will try to get it later and send it on. An associate sent this to me.

Name:	widgethater -	Reply
Subject:	Healthcare Bill ... read
Date:	7/28/2009 10:49:09 AM

I believe lotowner had the best solution! See below post

Name:	JustAGuy -	Reply
Subject:	I think this is it
Date:	7/28/2009 2:27:38 PM

URL: Health Care Bill

Name:	JustAGuy -	Reply
Subject:	WW?
Date:	7/28/2009 10:30:00 PM

Since you are an attorney, I would be interested to hear your review of the list you posted, as compared to the actual language of the HC Bill. Do you think your list accurately describes the contents of the bill? Thanks.

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