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Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   A New Home
Date:   7/21/2022 11:55:15 PM (updated 7/21/2022 11:57:00 PM)

After watching the hearing tonight, I fail to understand how anyone who took an oath when they entered the military to support and defend the Constitution can support Trump.

He took an oath...  "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

After his actions or lack thereof on January 6th, he is guilty of derelict of duty.

The home he deserves....

 

 

 

 

 





Name:   phil - Email Member
Subject:   A New Home
Date:   7/22/2022 8:46:48 AM

SSDD - get help.  Pelosi failed in her duty to protect the capital, Mayor of DC failed in its duty to protect the city when resources were offered(BY DJT).

 

Pound sand.

 

How can anyone in the military still call DJ and the HO their commander in chiefs after the Afganastan abandonment "dereliction of duty".

 

You sound like a scratched 45 being played at 33 speed - slow and repetative.  Saying the same stupid over and over does not make anyone else believe it - just reinforces your need for help.

 





Name:   MAJ USA RET - Email Member
Subject:   A Kangaroo Court
Date:   7/22/2022 9:55:46 AM (updated 7/22/2022 9:59:00 AM)

Hearsay is a statement that is made by a person outside the courtroom and, therefore, not subject to being questioned or challenged through cross-examination by the accused or his lawyer.(a)

The House January 6th Hearing featured hearsay.

“…the problem that the defense [attorney] really faces is that he can’t cross-examine witness.” (a)

No opportunity was afforded by the panel of the House January 6th Hearing, for anyone representing the former president (Trump) to cross examine the hearsay testimony OR the actual witness.

Why is cross-examination so important? Because the jury is then able to carefully observe the demeanor of the witness as his version of the facts is being challenged through a rigorous cross-examination. The jury is better able to judge whether the witness is lying (which witnesses do sometimes) or telling the truth. As the U.S. Supreme Court put it Pointer v. Texas (1965)”. (a)

It cannot seriously be doubted… that the right of cross-examination is included in the right of an accused in a criminal case to confront the witnesses against him. And probably no one, certainly no one experienced in the trial of lawsuits, would deny the value of cross-examination in exposing falsehood and bringing out the truth in the trial of a criminal case…. The fact that this right appears in the Sixth Amendment of our Bill of Rights reflects the belief of the Framers of those liberties and safeguards that confrontation was a fundamental right essential to a fair trial in a criminal prosecution.(a)

Because this is a public, kangaroo, special hearing - it is a political/propaganda attempt to co-opt the public into being a jury and rendering the politically preferred outcome at the polls. There was no cross examination of the witnesses.

“The Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment guarantees every litigant the right “to present his case and have its merits fairly judged.” -and – “Consistent with the provisions of this part, a participant has the right to present such evidence, including rebuttal evidence, to make such objections and arguments, and to conduct such cross-examination, as may be necessary to assure true and full disclosure of the facts.” (b)

No opportunity was afforded, by the panel of the House January 6th Hearing, for anyone representing the former president (Trump) to present evidence or witnesses on behalf of the accused.

 

THEREFORE: I wish someone would inform me of the intent and/or justification for the The House January 6th Hearing.

 

(a) Hornberger, J. G., 2005, The Bill of Rights: The Rights of the Accused, https://www.fff.org/explore-freedom/article/bill-rights-rights-accused/

(b) 18 CFR § 385.505 - Right of participants to present evidence (Rule 505). https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/18/385.505

 





Name:   PTClakefan - Email Member
Subject:   A Kangaroo Court
Date:   7/22/2022 11:02:01 AM

"THEREFORE: I wish someone would inform me of the intent and/or justification for the The House January 6th Hearing."

 

Try either political theater or grandstanding.





Name:   phil - Email Member
Subject:   A Kangaroo Court
Date:   7/22/2022 11:05:49 AM

Effort to sway opinion and try to find something, anything that they can hope to claim is enough of a crime to keep Trump from being able to run again.  They have decided it would be easier to keep him off the ballot then any other alternative(expecially with dementia Joe cratering in polls of basically every demographic except hard core liberals.





Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   A New Home
Date:   7/22/2022 11:09:45 AM

We're going to be locking up a lot of politicians, for every one that has broken their oath.  Sad truth is tha the oath means nothing any more.





Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   Give Me A Break
Date:   7/22/2022 11:33:34 AM (updated 7/22/2022 11:45:59 AM)

Kangaroo court????????????? Hell, the witnesses are all Repubicans sworn under oath. They were diehard supporters working in the White House. The excuses are pathetic.

Why hasn't anyone close to Trump come forward to defend him? Have you seen anything on TV or read that the witnesses are lying? You think his kids lied when they were quoted telling him to call it off?

Defend the fear that the Secret Service had for their life and that of Pence. Imagine calling your wife to say goodbye...that you may die befire you see her again.

No guys.....your defense is a joke.....Trump belongs in prison. Peaceful transfer of power is the cornerstone of the USA.

 





Name:   wix - Email Member
Subject:   GOOF-GULLIBLE-IDIOT
Date:   7/22/2022 2:19:42 PM

You are the absolute perfect example of a dumb-a$$, liberal idiot dimokrap.  Too bad abortions weren’t available back in the 30s, 40s, and maybe 50s!!





Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   GOOF-GULLIBLE-IDIOT
Date:   7/22/2022 2:33:12 PM (updated 7/22/2022 2:39:08 PM)

Rather sad you can't handle the truth. Like you,  all the witnesses against Trump are Republicans?  What do you say to them?





Name:   phil - Email Member
Subject:   Give Me A Break
Date:   7/22/2022 2:48:43 PM

"Why hasn't anyone close to Trump come forward to defend him?"    - because they are not calling people to the J6 hearings that the think would disrupt their narrative.

 

Also - you mean like the SS that came out and said that it was a lie he grabbed the wheel and attacked a SS agent from the back seat?  


We get it that you only get your news through the filter of the DNC.

 

 





Name:   phil - Email Member
Subject:   GOOF-GULLIBLE-IDIOT
Date:   7/22/2022 2:51:21 PM

To them I would say - Hopefully you get can a job at CNN/MSDNC once the midterms and next election is over???

 





Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   Give Me A Break
Date:   7/22/2022 7:39:04 PM (updated 7/22/2022 7:48:03 PM)

"because they are not calling people to the J6 hearings that the think would disrupt their narrative."

Total nonsense...Meadows, Navarro, Bannon, Flynn, Mo Brooks, Jim Jordan, Kevin McCarthy, Eastman, Rudy, and the list goes on and on They were invited to terstify and refused. Therefore, they have been  have subpoenaed.  They refuse to testify because there is no defense for Trump's Insurrection. Have any DEMS testified?

Reaserch before you attempt to post your dreams.

 "Also - you mean like the SS that came out and said that it was a lie he grabbed the wheel and attacked a SS agent from the back seat?" I have no idea if she lied. She said she was told and was testifying under oath. But, as you realize she is like you and WIX...Republicans and she is probably prone to lie.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3514712-heres-a-list-of-the-people-who-have-been-subpoenaed-by-the-jan-6-committee/





Name:   phil - Email Member
Subject:   Give Me A Break
Date:   7/25/2022 8:39:17 AM (updated 7/25/2022 8:41:02 AM)

Got it hearsay and lies are acceptable, if it works for your narrative - or have you also finally gave up on the Trump is a Russian asset you crowed about for how many years?  Remember your posts about Mueller time?? ahhh that was such good times!

 

 

Lets us count the lies - I will put up any of my posts where I was wrong against your count of Russia asset, Mueller time etc - Wonder who will have the lower count..... Pretty sure it will not be you.  If I were to use you as a benchmark of honesty, then most politicans should be saints.

 

 





Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   HAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Date:   7/25/2022 9:21:00 AM

Man am I sorry I was too busy entertaining to read this drivel.  This is an absolute classic in a long line of classic TDS posts.  Goofy, I want you to think about this for a second and ponder the following.  First we had Russia collusion and according to you it was all over for Trump...the walls are closing in.  Then we had the Manhatten left wing nut AG investigating him for his loans and according to you it was next stop...jail....the walls are closing in.  Then we had the Ukraine call and it was impeachment city...how could any real American not vote to convict.....this is it...Trump is history.  Then we had the J6 brouhaha and it was Trump incited an insurrection.....we've got the evidence...according to you he is done, finito, kaput....the walls are closing in and he should be in jail.  Am certain there are many more that I am forgetting...which is understandable since there seems to be a new one every other month.

And now all of the sudden, after all those others fell apart....Russia collusion was a hoax ochestrated by SHrillery, the follow up left wing nut AG drops the investigation because it was a sure loser.......Ukraine impeachment a waste of time with an acquittal by the Senate.......no one except left wing nut TDS sufferers like you even care about J6 but despite a totally one-sided presentation of hearsay with zero actual cross examination as set up by a bunch of TDS sufferers (Dems and RINOs) the whole insurrection nonsense has fallen apart, zapped, obliterated.......cause ya know, there was no insurrection and Trump never encouraged one...but you already knew that in your heart of hearts.....so now after all this.....it's come to dereliction of duty because you don't think he acted quickly enough or whatever.  It's the latest shiny new object but as with the others it is pyrite (look it up).

You live a sad and miserable existence seeing one TDS hope and dread after another fall apart.  How many times have you made your earnest plea for all the rest of us to see what you so clearly see.....only to have it fall apart in a web of TDS lies, misinformation, baseless speculation and deceit?  I have often encouraged you to seek help for your mental illness but this last whopper has convinced me that you are beyond help. All I can do is ROFLMAO over and over and over and over again.









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