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Name:   Maverick - Email Member
Subject:   FERC Approves Rule Variance
Date:   11/20/2007 5:15:32 PM

It is now official FERC has issued it's Consent Order Granting a Temporary Variance to Lake Martin's Rule Curve.

Note page 4 "The Commission issued a public notice of APC’s proposed temporary variance on November 1, 2007, with a comment closing date of November 14, 2007. The Lake Martin Home Owners & Boat Owners Association and individual property owners were all in favor of the proposed temporary variance."

Thank you to all that wrote to FERC in support of this very important matter.

URL: FERCs Consent Order to Temporary Variance

Name:   Osms - Email Member
Subject:   FERC Approves Rule Variance
Date:   11/20/2007 8:17:31 PM

Our thanks to Alabama Power and Governor Riley for their efforts in getting this approval to raise the winter level. Of course, a lot of rain would be nice now -- pray.

Governor Riley played a key role in convincing the Corps of Engineers that raising the winter lake level was the smart thing to do.

Lake Martin HOBOs



Name:   rainbow slough - Email Member
Subject:   FERC Approves Rule Variance
Date:   11/21/2007 9:07:45 AM

this is for 2007-08 only correct?



Name:   Osms - Email Member
Subject:   FERC Approves Rule Variance
Date:   11/21/2007 9:18:33 AM

Variances are issued for a limited time only, but decisions are reached much quicker by the Feds. This variance is only for this winter, but it is the first time APCo has requested to raise winter levels.

We hope to include raising the winter level as part of the Relicensing MIG Study which would allow the winter level to be raised for study purposes until a permanent rule curve change can be put in effect with relicensing.



Name:   F1Fan - Email Member
Subject:   Clarification of Variance
Date:   11/21/2007 10:58:52 AM

Can someone help me understand something w/r/t this variance? I think I understand the impact on the rules for the allowable levels, so that's not my question.

As far as I can tell neither this nor any of the other actions recently do anything to decrease the minimum required releases at Martin dam (irrespective of the levels) or to increase the releases upstream anywhere. I realize that much of the Atlanta battle deals with the Coosa system, but is there anything other than allowing an increase in the target levels that has happened that will have a material impact on actually achieving those levels?

I get that we need rain, and lots of it. It just seems that until that starts, the level may continue to drop, and if we're still having to release enough to maintain some set downstream flow or levels due to the outcomes of deals in GA or FL, the impact of this rule change may be seriously diluted.

Any insight on all this?



Name:   Pier Pressure - Email Member
Subject:   Clarification of Variance
Date:   11/21/2007 11:36:00 AM

We went to an island many times this year which is normally under water. There was massive undergrowth which made the area not as pleasant as the typical sandy beach. If the variance becomes permanent will there be an algae issue like Lake Jordan?



Name:   Osms - Email Member
Subject:   Clarification of Variance
Date:   11/21/2007 4:07:15 PM

It is my understanding that an algae growth (bloom) occurs when the water has too many nutrients (fertilizer run off, raw sewage dumping, etc), and is combined combined with stagnant water and high water temperatures. With the lack of fresh water (rain), and with the Dadeville Treatment Plant problems we noticed an algae bloom in August in Sandy Creek.

Jordan Lake's problem probably has to do with the quality of the water instead of the fact that the water level doesn't vary much. Most people don't think the Coosa is as clean as the Tallapoosa.



Name:   Osms - Email Member
Subject:   Clarification of Variance
Date:   11/21/2007 4:33:08 PM

See B'ham News article above, it will help. Releases from Martin have been approved to be reduced. Lake has dropped very little in the past week and only 0.4 ft in the past two weeks--hey, they finished dredging.

Rain is required for this approval to work. Deal is we can keep more of the winter rains in the lake than in the past because we won't have to meet the Corps absurd demands for water releases. Will the lake get to 483'--depends on how much rain we get, but we've sure got a better chance now than we had without the approval.

Possibly the best thing to come from all this is we now know the Corps of Engineers has no clue of how to run our river systems. Have you heard of any paper mills closing downstream on the Alabama, any cities on the Alabama running our of water, any companies going broke because they can't use the river for barge traffic, any major snail killings??

The flow rate has been cut to much less than half of Corps requirements for the past month and with no ill effect announced. Absolutely amazing. We'll survive this drought, and we'll be much wiser.







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