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Mack
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WaveRunner Maniacs
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3/4/2008 6:52:54 PM
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I suspect this topic might be as emotional as Russell Lands, but.........
I've got a neighbor in our cove who has frequent guests who don't seem to understand that screaming past a floating dock at 50 MPH where swimmers/fishermen are trying to enjoy the Lake is RUDE!! Not to mention, Dangerous.
Waving them away don't work, they wave back, as if "Ain't I great on this thing?" "Watch the next Spin-Out Trick".
I really want to make a perfect cast of a large RattleTrap into the scalp of the rider with 50 pound test line and a locked drag, but I also do not want to go to jail.
The neighbor don't wanna' hear about it, so, no help there. It's his right.
Anybody out there have the same experience and a good solution??
I'd love to hear it before my neighbor launches!!
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I had the same problem about 4 years ago. I walked over and had a "conversation" with the young man and things got a little better. I then went to the parents and a few other neighbors did the same. It helped some; at least they don't do it when we are out by the water anymore
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| Name: |
rude evin
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WaveRunner Maniacs
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3/4/2008 10:06:57 PM
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I once heard that was a good time to put your golf practice mat out on the dock ,and work on the driver and three wood.
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Spot Remover
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WaveRunner Maniacs
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3/5/2008 4:49:08 AM
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It is a real problem on the lake. Back when we had water, can't remember when, some of these goobers came by our dock pulling small kids on tubes, spinning and coming oh so close to slinging the young'uns into the docks. These folks need a lesson in safety and courtesy. It can be accomplished if --(you fill in the blank.) I'm thinking a video and some type of "reckless endangerment" case.
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| Name: |
ecstasypoint
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WaveRunner Maniacs
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3/5/2008 7:50:29 AM
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I'd love to know the answer to 'it could be accomplished if..." As soon as these wave runner, tube pulling, oblivious to other screamers hit the lake, there is not a moments peace. Dangerous. Disturbing. Can't there be new rules, new laws that force these drivers to have the regard for others that they don't seem to naturally possess? Any hope? Any suggestions? Boats (and wave runners) are dangerous toys. Kids, too, need to understand that there is a great deal of responsibility that comes with driving. What kills me is to see adults teaching their children these rude and dangerous behaviors. And I would add, it is especially troubling that these folks often don't live here. They come for the day and ruin our lives--for free. My answer to "it could be accomplished if" is...charge at the boat ramp, enforce rules that require all vehicles to stay away from docks and swimmers, patrol, ticket, and fine violaters.
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Nutin Bitein
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WaveRunner Maniacs
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3/5/2008 8:51:22 AM
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We had a problem last year with waverunners and boats going way too fast kicking up big wakes. Our cove is a 300 ft wide. Even had a wakeboard boat tow in, stopto turn around then pull the guy back up and wake board out. Not enough run to turn around otherwise. Did not have golf clubs so had to use sign language. This problem is the marine police's lack of no wake signs and enforcing it. Is it not 150 ft away the safe distance from docks. Any cove under 600 ft wide should be no wake. The lake has alot of room, use the big open water. What about paintball gun. If you can hit the boat its too close????
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| Name: |
ecstasypoint
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WaveRunner Maniacs
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3/5/2008 9:00:58 AM
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I love it. I wonder what the consequences are for me if I hit someone with a paint ball? You make a great point: if I can hit them with a paint ball gun, they are the ones who have broken "the law" by coming too close, right? What about it, will this work? Parents, will you be mad at me if your children come home with paint on them?
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DirtDiva
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WaveRunner Maniacs
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3/5/2008 9:34:36 AM
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Better to see the kids come home with paint on them than not come home from killing themselves running into the docks or boats.
We have a real issue with this, also. We had to continually wave off people driving their wave runners too close to our dock - 20-30 feet or so. We finally put orange bouys out to mark a swimming area - this has moved the runners away some. Folks tend to stay out of marked swimming areas.
Our other issue is - we live on a cove. There are several folks who live further up the cove and when they drive their boats from their docks to the big water, they drive fast and create really big wakes... annoying.......
I say we get paint guns, potato guns, marshmellow shooters, pea shooters; call the marine police on a regular basis, and follow the rules and be safe ourselves!!!
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| Name: |
Nutin Bitein
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WaveRunner Maniacs
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3/5/2008 9:52:54 AM
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Just the sight of all that on a dock should work!!! Dont forget cooler of beer. Maybe we aim for the waverunner not the kid...... I still think the lake needs to enforce the law. Maybe a loud speaker, The fact that they wave back at you. can they even hear us???
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| Name: |
Mack
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WaveRunner Maniacs
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3/5/2008 10:46:41 AM
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Also notice that some of these "kids" causing the problem are the 30 year old variety
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laketime
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WaveRunner Maniacs
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3/5/2008 11:15:30 AM
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we have had pontoons pullin the gran'babies on their tubes..right
by our dock over and over with the wake tossing our boat on the
floating dock. we waved.. did no good. also..same person..every weekend... right back in our slough.
its so frustrating to look out over that huge expanse of lake and these
eejits having no regard whatsoever, for the damage they are doing
to our boats and swimming area.
It seems reasonable to make rules protecting against this sort of
ignorance.. how do you go about alerting authorities of the problem and
demanding something be done?? I;m amazed that this isnt already
addressed.
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Feb
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WaveRunner Maniacs
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3/5/2008 11:39:34 AM
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I can understand Lake home owner's concern and gripe. What sections of the Lake are you folks having such problems at?
We have not had as significant of a problem either at my or my Brother's Lake places. We are in the Parker Creek area.
Please do not send them in this direction.
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| Name: |
Nutin Bitein
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WaveRunner Maniacs
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3/5/2008 11:50:35 AM
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Maybe the HOBO group could help???? Also the power company is working on a new license with improvments. Lots with open water should be given enough room to build a dock to protect their kids and boats. people with cove lots should have no wake bouys as you enter. Then enforce it. Put it on the maps of the lake in shaded colors to warn people of the rules. This does not help everybody if you live on a throughway like the blue creek area going to the bridge. Its narrow and long lots of boats and wakes. Can we get this started with the HOBO group.
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LifeTime Laker
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It is a slippery slope
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3/5/2008 12:01:53 PM
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The MP will never allow everybody that wants a no wake bouy to have one. If they did, the lake would be full of bouys and no room for boats. If you having problems, video it. Then seek LEGAL recourse. IF you have sustained damage, the owner/operator of the vessel that did it is ABSOLUTELY responsible. The operator is ALWAYS responsible what his/her wake does. If it is a neighbor that is causing the problem, the BEST way to handle it is with POLITE conversation.
But with that being said, if you are in a high traffic area, it is also your responsibillity to secure your watercraft in such a way as to avoid damage. You can not have a place on the lake and expect no waves. Waves are inherint to water. Take responsibillity for your own toys.
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laketime
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It is a slippery slope
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3/5/2008 12:32:14 PM
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That's ridiculous, first i dont live in a high traffic area..im in a slough..
i am talking about people who are coming within 10 feet of my dock
repeatedly and would have to be BLIND not to see the effects. I
certainly expect waves and i have no problem with boats that are out
a safe and considerate distance from docks and swimming areas.
I agree that all sloughs are absolutely not NO WAKE zones., i only feel
there should be laws stating the safe distance that must be honored
when circling your waterski or skiers.
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| Name: |
Nutin Bitein
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It is a slippery slope
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3/5/2008 12:33:31 PM
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The MP will never allow everybody that wants a no wake bouy to have
one. Your right....But, they should study the lake and mark the areas that make sense. It almost seems like they dont want the hassle of more things to enforce. This would help new buyers too. Do you want a cove with no wake... or big open water with views and waves. As the lake gets more crowded safe boat will be a bigger issue.
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Spot Remover
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WaveRunner Maniacs
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3/5/2008 12:58:27 PM
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Let's see. Tell them to go past Willow Point and take a left for free bar-b-cue and super models.
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LifeTime Laker
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It is a slippery slope
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3/5/2008 3:39:59 PM
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Laws already exist to protect you from such. Avail yourself of THEM before asking for more to be passed. More regulation is not always the answer. Talk to the offenders in a polite manner and you might be surprised how far that will go. Coming on here and whining is NOT going to make it go away.
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ecstasypoint
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WaveRunner Maniacs
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3/5/2008 5:29:28 PM
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I hope for your sake (Feb) that they don't come to you. Chances are, though, that just about the time you get your home completed and settle in for a nice cozy retirement, they'll get there. I hope not. It's becoming more trying to find those quiet places. For those of us who do live in the busier areas, this is a menace. Many who actaully live on the lake, instead of near a shallow slough, already know that the laws that exist have no effect and that having a polite conversation with the said offenders is not an option. I appreciate having the opportunity to discuss this problem; so please keep ideas coming. I do think an open forum among people who share common problems does help alleviate those problems (in some cases).
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Feb
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WaveRunner Maniacs
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3/5/2008 9:02:44 PM
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We did discuss large rubber/fake alligators last year when several Forum members had the Canadian Geese problem. You reckon these decoys could serve a dual purpose. LOL
All joking aside, I can certainly appreciate the aggravation this subject situation creates.
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Aussie77
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It is a slippery slope
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4/8/2008 7:29:46 PM
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I agree. Your problem is with the laws that exist are not being enforced.....so what will making new laws do for you? I see the problem and it too infuriates me. However, we must stand up for ourselves not expect the laws to take care of us. Talking is ALWAYS an option! You must approach people in an approachable manner. They may not see your point but I guarantee they will not heed your point if your are rude and mad.
Embarrassment is always an option. The loud speaker may work and they may not wish to hang around the "crazy people" with the loud speaker! Although, be careful you are not breaking a law yourself...noise ordinances.
With litigation the way it is today...I would NOT recommend shooting anyone with anything!! Your position of "the waves were too big" is not going to hold a candle to "they shot my baby with a paint gun and now he has seizures, he drowned or......
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