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Name:   Lifer - Email Member
Subject:   A small victory
Date:   4/6/2010 11:26:18 AM

Cut and paste:

WASHINGTON (AP) -- A federal appeals court has ruled that the Federal Communications Commission lacks the authority to require broadband providers to give equal treatment to all Internet traffic flowing over their networks.

Tuesday's ruling by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia is a big victory for Comcast Corp., the nation's largest cable company. It had challenged the FCC's authority to impose so called "net neutrality" obligations.

It marks a serious setback for the FCC, which needs authority to regulate the Internet in order to push ahead with key parts of its massive national broadband plan.




Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   A small victory
Date:   4/6/2010 3:30:35 PM

A victory for whom? I had Comcast service when I lived in VA -- they are as bad a cable company as I've ever seen. Their customer service is even worse. One woman in VA took a hammer to the customer service receptionist's computer because she was so distraught about the way they jerked her around. And she only got a small fine.

You have less to fear from the FCC than you do these major cable companies.



Name:   Summer Lover - Email Member
Subject:   A small victory
Date:   4/6/2010 3:42:36 PM

WE win when we get less regulation - no one HAS to use a cable/dish/telco provider. Enough people who are truly dissatisfied can change a business, we are, for the most part, stuck with Uncle Charlie.



Name:   Lifer - Email Member
Subject:   Once again
Date:   4/6/2010 4:17:09 PM

You show that you have no clue about the issue before you post. net neutrality has NOTHING to do with customer service. It is about content that is allowed over the network. It is nothing more than a fairness doctrine for the internet. Try a LITTLE research before you post sometimes.

Believe me, no one hates Charter like I do. I threw them out two months ago for TV, but have no other option for internet. I pay $60 month for a blinding 3 megs. Most times I get less than one meg and many times nothing at all. A tech was here for 1.5 hours Saturday, and two have been here to 2 hours today. They want to blame my equipment, but when they hook up their equipment they get they same results. The biggest problem is I know more than most of the techs they send.

Honestly hound, you are too intelligent to make some of the posts that you do. Engage the brain before the fingers.



Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   Once again
Date:   4/6/2010 5:14:37 PM

I obviously am quite aware that net neutrality has nothing to do with customer service. I am discouraged when I see COMCAST win anything because they are far worse than Charter and they are the biggest cable provider. They will buy out Charter too eventually and you'll get to experience how wonderful it is.

As far as less regulation being better -- you obviously have never thoroughly thought this through, and are only mouthing the ridiculous ideas put forth by the far right. Unfortunately, I had to deal on a regular basis with very large companies that wanted "no government interference" and no government regulation. I have had to think these things through and I can tell you, a world with no regulation is not one that you will want to live in. You'll be speaking Chinese, selling nuclear components to Iran and your US developed technology (and jobs) will be shipped overseas faster than you can blink your eyes.
Maybe you want to live in that world, but I don't.



Name:   green,ed - Email Member
Subject:   Hey everybody
Date:   4/6/2010 5:51:03 PM

Sounds like Lifer admits that some of their techs know more than him. Amazing



Name:   Barneget - Email Member
Subject:   Once again
Date:   4/6/2010 7:04:04 PM

Geez Hound, it seems we have you, and your peers, to thank for keeping English as our official language. Should we also thank you, and your peers, for enabling the sale of nuclear components to Iran, and allowing US developed technology and jobs to move away faster than we can blink an eye? Or, do we need still more regulation? And more central gummint employees to enforce them? And more career beauracrats forwarding their own, sometimes unconstitutional, (April 1 EPA Rules)agendas? I'm just a simple man. Help me understand how a victory for "net neutrality", and the accompanying central government oversight, would be a victory for the citizens of the US? As for mouthing the ridiculous ideas of the far right, your words are poster fodder for thinking, involved, concerned, advocates of personal responsibility, and personal freedoms.



Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   Once again
Date:   4/6/2010 7:43:05 PM

Well, I'd love to sit and explain it to you, and maybe someday over an iced tea, I'll do that. But, you'll have to turn off the right wing propoganda in order to hear me.

You seem to have no idea about the agenda of some of the largest companies (and the smaller front companies) with regard to making money, versus protecting US interests. And yes, my peers spent a great deal of time trying to protect American interests.
Do you really think that the political right wing doesn't want any regulations? Do you truly believe they want a smaller government? Well, I worked for a number of Republican Administration over the years, and if that was their real agenda, don't you think that would have happened by now? The most significant reductions in civilian government happened under Clinton, and that was really nothing more than a shell game (which I would also be pleased to explain to you over an iced tea)
On the industries that have been deregulated, do you really think you are better off as a result?

Think about it.





Name:   Barneget - Email Member
Subject:   Once again
Date:   4/6/2010 8:07:17 PM

I do appreciate the protections afforded us by some regulation. I don't appreciate the entrenched Republican leadership any more than the current Democrat leaders, and would like to see a Constitutional party gain traction. I am disgusted by the continued expansion of the nanny state, and the lifelong umbilical cord provided to the non contributing. And, according to OMB published historical tables, your statement about the reduction in civilian government workforce during the Clinton years is true. I can't find a similar table listing consultants and contractors. Airline and transportation deregulation have provided tremendous benefit to US consumers. 1978 -- ATL to PHL, usually $250+ rt, 2010 -- same route can sometimes be had for $175 rt. Trucking companies used to hold nearly all shippers to published tariffs, now most anyone can negotiate 55+% off. The strong in both industries survive. These savings usually wind up in consumers pockets. Must be a full moon, I'm feeling wordy. I skip sweet tea because it settles at my waist. Can I brink my own Makers and ce?



Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   Once again
Date:   4/6/2010 10:15:37 PM

I don't drink sweet tea either... but sure, bring whatever you want.

You know, oddly enough, I can't say that I want to legislate and regulate individual lives. I don't want to underwrite industries (although companies that compete in international markets have whined that we should do this, for years). I do think there needs to be some regulatory framework. Sure, there are some in the government who relish more and more complex regulations, but they are really in the minority. I think there is a bigger problem on the Hill. When you work for the government, you constantly have to fight against "reporting" requirements to the Hill.



Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   NET NEUTRALITY AND YOU ASKED FOR IT
Date:   4/6/2010 10:49:55 PM

I sure hope those who wish for less regulation don't complain when they receive notice form their cable provider that the following is to be implemented:

"A broadband company could, for instance, ink a deal with Microsoft to transfer all attempts to reach Google.com to Bing.com. The only recourse a user would have, under the ruling, would be to switch to a different provider — assuming, of course, they had an alternative to switch to.

Companies can also now prohibit you from using a wireless router you bought at the store, forcing you to use one they rent out — just as they do with cable boxes. They could also decide to charge you a fee every time you upgrade your computer, or even block you from using certain models, just as the nation’s mobile phone carriers do today."





Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   NET NEUTRALITY AND YOU ASKED FOR IT
Date:   4/6/2010 11:05:40 PM

And I could also get a Verizon Air Card.



Name:   Lifer - Email Member
Subject:   Same ol', same ol' from hound
Date:   4/7/2010 8:22:19 AM

Gummint great. Private sector bad. I don't need you to explain anything to me hound. Maybe I could sit down with you and explain a few things about economics and the private sector to YOU, as you are clueless. Oh but you will have to turn off the left wing hate speak AKA CNN, MSNBC, CBS, NBC, ABC so I can hear you.

Heres a challenge for you. Show me any instance where MORE gummit regulation improved ANY industry.



Name:   Lifer - Email Member
Subject:   Straw man argument.
Date:   4/7/2010 8:26:42 AM

You want to talk about equipment whent the jist of the regulation was about CONTENT!! ASk your mommy or daddy what the fairness doctrine is, then maybe hound will sit down and really EXPLAIN it to you. I am sure she will tell you how it must be done to control the 'right wingers'. After all we are out of control and destroying our country with all these PEACEFUL protest.



Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   NET NEUTRALITY AND YOU ASKED FOR IT
Date:   4/7/2010 10:36:01 AM

None of that bothers me as I have multiple options for obtaining TV and internet service. You see, that's how free markets work. If someone is providing a product that the consumer doesn't want they won't buy it. Cable companies no longer have a monopoly with satellite just like internet providers no longer have a monopoly. And if someone is overcharging for a product or service they are inviting competition and will go the way of say, the dinosaur media. A perfect example of the free markets working to weed out undesirable products or services.

Just let the markets correct themselves. It doesn't happen overnight but it always works better than government interference.



Name:   Summer Lover - Email Member
Subject:   Wrong green,ed
Date:   4/7/2010 4:11:21 PM

I think he is just lonely and wants company that will NOT drink all his cold beverages. Until the water is warm enough for him to hide under his pontoon boat, he will have LOTS of internet problems......



Name:   Lifer - Email Member
Subject:   Wait till you see the next video.
Date:   4/8/2010 5:41:16 PM

It will be just as much fun. I am thinking of sending the raw video to a freind and let him 'do his thing' with it.







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