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Name:   lucky67 - Email Member
Subject:   At 15-17 whatever
Date:   5/26/2022 6:47:57 PM

No matter what age why does any citizen need these ???





Name:   MAJ USA RET - Email Member
Subject:   At 15-17 whatever
Date:   5/26/2022 7:26:42 PM

Is there anything unclear about the 2nd Amendment?

Article the fourth [Amendment II] - - A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

To be certain, the problem lies on the human side of the trigger. 

Perhaps the problem is in the domain of enablers.  Why was he living with his old grandparents.  Perhaps the problem is with an irresponsible media.  Perhaps the problem is with some one who saw something - read something - did NOTHING about the crazy that committed the massacre. 

How did this obviously out of place young man wander around an elementary school without anyone noticing? Carrying a bag of ammo!

Regardless of his psychological problems, he was a criminal.  Therein lies the solution:  Deal with the psychological problems and deal with criminals. 

You are correct to be upset about it.  But, rational thought is the order of the day.

and I tell you, the Constitution IS NOT THE PROBLEM!

Nothing short of repealing the 2nd Amendment will do anything about Armalite 15s.  The 2nd Amendment is a RIGHT put in place for a very good reason.  You need to understand it FIRST.

 

 

 





Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   At 15-17 whatever
Date:   5/26/2022 8:15:33 PM

Just my opinion - I think people want them because they look badass and that's how the manufacturers market them.  

The truth is that it is a semi-automatic rifle, nothing more, nothing less.  You can shoot a lot of rounds with an extended magazine.   

Those that use them for huntng like that they are lightweight. 





Name:   wix - Email Member
Subject:   At 15-17 whatever
Date:   5/26/2022 8:22:07 PM

Guns have been available in the USA as long as there has been a USA….and well before that.  A liberal idiot government has been a terrible factor in the USA since the 60s.  We now are suffering the results of stupid decisions from liberal idiot courts (mental illness eliminated…on paper),  stupid education decisions that result in mentally ill youth with no care or evaluation, and the total distruction of the family, all within the past 60 years by liberal idiots.  Plain and simple.   GUNS AIN”T THE PROBLEM>>>>>LIBERAL IDIOTS ARE THE TOTAL PROBLEM!!





Name:   lucky67 - Email Member
Subject:   At 15-17 whatever
Date:   5/26/2022 8:33:32 PM

Anyone expecting Ruskies to invade lake martin might need an AR 15





Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   At 15-17 whatever
Date:   5/26/2022 8:52:27 PM

I think if the Russians are coming, I want a fully automatic military rifle. 





Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   At 15-17 whatever
Date:   5/26/2022 10:03:42 PM (updated 5/26/2022 10:05:30 PM)

There's another reason for the Second Amendment that I believe is playing out right now.  The party in power is doing everything it can to completely control our lives.  A well armed militia, us, serves to keep that party from a total assault on our freedom.  They know that we are armed and that if they try to go as far as they would like, that those arms would be used to thwart their attempt to take over the country by force.  My (liberal) son was aghast when I suggested to him that if "they" were to come for my guns they would have to take them by force, even to the point of lethal force.  Maybe the "everyday liberal" doesn't see the threat. 

I have said before and will reiterate that I am far, far from being a gun nut, concealed carrying a .380 for purely defensive purposes and having other, more lethal arms in my gun safe that I dust off and take to the range every couple of years just to ensure I can still operate them.

I hate to say it, but based on things I have witnessed over the past six or eight years the party currently in power WOULD take advantage of a populace that was not so armed.  They are despicable and drunk on power.  We need to ensure there continues to be a counter force that can keep that seemingly insatiable thirst at bay.





Name:   wix - Email Member
Subject:   AMEN, HODJ
Date:   5/26/2022 11:01:29 PM (updated 5/26/2022 11:02:08 PM)

Right on the spot.





Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   AMEN, HODJ
Date:   5/26/2022 11:28:07 PM

I'll let everyone know if that post prompts a visit from guys with badges....I mean after all doesn't following the United States Constitution label one as a "Domestic Terrorist" these days?





Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   Question for the MAJ
Date:   5/27/2022 2:33:53 AM

I have been a gun owner for many years. Can you explain under the 2nd Amendmen how Texas can allow an 18 year old to purchase an AR15 but he could not buy a pistol until age 21? He never would have killed all the little kids with a pistol.





Name:   MAJ USA RET - Email Member
Subject:   Question for the MAJ
Date:   5/27/2022 8:25:44 AM

I have been a gun owner for many years. Can you explain under the 2nd Amendmen (sic) how Texas can allow an 18 year old to purchase an AR15 but he could not buy a pistol until age 21?

I wonder about such Texas law (Please cite your source). If you are old enough get married (defend your home), join the military (die for your country) – AND are not a felon or mentally unstable – why should the government violate your 2nd Amendment rights?

I suspect that there was at least suspicion that this young man had severe mental/emotional problems – and NOBODY chose to do anything about it. I suspect he dominated his elderly grandparents to the point they were afraid of him. Rightfully so; he wrote on social media that he would shoot his grandmother. And he did!

"He never would have killed all the little kids with a pistol."

He barricaded himself. If that action was in a classroom full of elementary children, he had a plethora of terrified and cowering targets, including their teacher. He could have killed every one of them with a kitchen knife. After the first one, the remainder would become petrified in their extremis. (Note: Being part of a security team, I have law enforcement training on defense against active shooters – including being barricaded in a room with one.)

You, sir, need to step back! Emotion will NOT help you discern this problem and will NOT lead you to its solution. Actually you (and I) will not be a participant in the solution. I suggest you study the WHOLE incident based on MANY disparate sources. View every aspect of the situation and eventual solution with a calm and critical mindset.

I too, feel deeply for those children, teachers, parents, and LEOs. But many stupid acts are instigated by emotions such as fear, revenge, and impetuousness.





Name:   wix - Email Member
Subject:   GOOF-COMMIE
Date:   5/27/2022 8:41:36 AM

Maybe I can help your ignorant mind.  During and shortly after the Vietnam War, our country (some states) felt that if we could draft 18 year olds, issue a M-16 weapon to them and send them to Vietnam, then they should be able to purchase a long gun at the age of 18.  Very good law for many years until mental illness was declared “normal” by stupid, liberal idiot judges.  Since that time our country has changed.  Now we have no control or treatment for crazy people….they kill people, live in the streets of cities, and vote DIMOKRAP….And they are supported by idiots like you.  





Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   I am not the MAJ, but...
Date:   5/27/2022 9:13:30 AM

With regard to your claim "He never would have killed all the little kids with a pistol."  Au contraire.  If anything he might have been able to kill more.  A normal backpack could easily carry several handguns and hundreds of rounds of ammunition in magazines as large as 33 rounds each (e.g., for a Glock 9mm), maybe even more, and that backpack would cause less suspicion when the perp enters a school than an Armalight Rifle model 15 or other long gun.  In a typical classroom, say 20x30 feet, a handgun would be easier to handle than a long gun and most semi-automatic handguns are incredibly easy and fast to reload, and any loss in accuracy would be overcome by the sheer number of rounds that could be fired.  

 





Name:   lucky67 - Email Member
Subject:   Question for the MAJ
Date:   5/27/2022 9:23:38 AM

its somewhat possible that had his mom & father , (who i havent heard mentioned) were involved with their son who dropped out of school & had no job, were in touch/involved in this kids daily life, this disaster could have been prevented





Name:   phil - Email Member
Subject:   At 15-17 whatever
Date:   5/27/2022 9:24:38 AM (updated 5/27/2022 9:40:18 AM)

Why do you need car which kills more people annually???   Go ride a bike or walk.  And yes I know that there is no right to own a car unlike the 2nd amendment and arms.

 

 





Name:   phil - Email Member
Subject:   At 15-17 whatever
Date:   5/27/2022 9:28:10 AM

Contact Afganastan we left thousands laying around.





Name:   phil - Email Member
Subject:   At 15-17 whatever
Date:   5/27/2022 9:32:28 AM

Funny during the riots, covid lockdowns etc - I had MANY liberal friends who decided to go buy their 1st guns because they realized that cops cant protect you during a riot - they are too busy, and then aftwards they became worred about the goverment lockdowns.

 

I took them all to the range afterwards and had training sessions, cleaning sessions - keep the booger hook of the bang switch until you are ready, keep the damn thing on safe till you engage the booger hook and are pointed downrange.

 

Didnt have the first like minded person reach out to me to purchase any guns during the same period ( because they already had them ), several reached out about learning reloading because of the price of ammo and how hard it was getting to locate.

 





Name:   MAJ USA RET - Email Member
Subject:   Weapon of Choice
Date:   5/27/2022 9:33:05 AM (updated 5/27/2022 9:34:19 AM)

I carried the military versions of the M-14, M-16, and M-60 (military only). I don’t recall if that first version of the M-16 had a selector switch. NONE OF THEM WERE COMFORTABLE TO CARRY… except, maybe, at “sling arms.” How many drill sergeants let YOU walk around at sling arms? These rifles are not exactly good hunting companions unless you were in the military and recall them with affection.

BUT… Alas, the 2nd Amendment is not about hunting. The British were not headed for Lexington and Concord to seize hunting rifles. They were headed there to DISARM the locals. Their (duly noted) mistake was thinking all of the rifles, ball, and powder were in the armory. As it turns out, the militia were better armed and better shots than the British. The militia were predominately farmers and hunters and saw their firearms as tools. Secondarily, they were always on call to respond to Indian raids. Did you know that EVERY adult (non-criminal) male in Switzerland has a government supplied rifle and ammo? Ever wonder why Switzerland has never been invaded since declaring neutrality?

The selector switch for “automatic mode” is available only to the military and the rare collector of fully automatic (capable) weapons. Most gunsmiths could turn your "AR whatever" into a fully automatic weapon… that would make your weapon illegal.

Having been allowed (once), at Fort Benning, to fire my weapon in “auto” mode (three round burst). I immediately noticed that only the first round went where I aimed it. I was never inclined to use that selector position again.

As a member of the militia (10 U.S. Code § 246), one could better defend his (her) home and nation with a conventional hunting rifle, shotgun, or pistol with which he or she was more practiced and comfortable. Notice that the 2nd Amendment does not limit what arms one chooses to bear.

And you have no say in what is acceptable for me.  That would qualify as infringement.





Name:   phil - Email Member
Subject:   Question for the MAJ
Date:   5/27/2022 9:33:46 AM (updated 5/27/2022 9:51:05 AM)

So a double stack glock with 2 mags he could not have done the same thing ???!??!??!?  At the point he was in the room, he could have killed them all with bare hands you moron.

 

I call BULLSCHIFT!!!

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10853849/Moment-Norway-killer-fires-three-arrows-revealed-tells-court-wish-theyre-alive-still.html

 

In the article nutter uses a bow and arrow - Think the article indicated 5 dead, 11 injured as he walked around with bow and arrow - and apparently stabbed several.

 

 





Name:   phil - Email Member
Subject:   Question for the MAJ
Date:   5/27/2022 9:35:41 AM

Reports are the mother is in jail, unknown how long or on what charges.

Father is an unknown from what I have seen.

 





Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   Not in Jail
Date:   5/27/2022 10:15:56 AM

She's not in jail, because she was at a church praying with the others and she has given interviews.  Apparently she struggles with drugs and lives with a guy that looks like he also has a drug problem.





Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   I am not the MAJ, but...
Date:   5/27/2022 10:20:32 AM

Good point.  People get wrapped up in the AR, but you are just as dead by pistol shot, particularly if the pistol has an extended magazine. People paralyzed in fear and not moving are an easy target, no matter what your weapon.  





Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   At 15-17 whatever
Date:   5/27/2022 10:31:13 AM

It would seem that if you intend to kill people, there are many means available.  (remember the guy that drove into the crowd at the Christmas parade?). His car was his weapon of choice.  

No matter how many guns they ban, a person intent of evil will find a gun.  We get upset about a mass shooting at a school, yet pay hardly any attention to all the children that are killed by drive by shootings and random bullets.  They are supposed to be safe in their homes, in their neighborhood, in their cars.  





Name:   phil - Email Member
Subject:   At 15-17 whatever
Date:   5/27/2022 10:46:16 AM

I get upset because honest hardworking people who should have a right to protect those kids are not allowed to.  It is a gun free zone and the mentally deranged know they will not get major pushback until the cops arrive if there is not a SRO who may or may not be armed on site.

 

Its shooting fish in a barrel.

 

People who commit crimes and murders should not have a revoloving door legal system where often they are released without even bail- this nutter was arrested 4 years ago for plotting to shoot up a school.  HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON SOMEONES RADAR!

 





Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   At 15-17 whatever
Date:   5/27/2022 12:44:49 PM

On that we can agree.





Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   MAJ...FACT OR FICTION
Date:   5/27/2022 8:14:31 PM (updated 5/27/2022 8:30:12 PM)

"“I have been a gun owner for many years. Can you explain under the 2nd Amendmen (sic) how Texas can allow an 18 year old to purchase an AR15 but he could not buy a pistol until age 21?”'

"I wonder about such Texas law (Please cite your source)."

"If you are old enough get married (defend your home), join the military (die for your country) – AND are not a felon or mentally unstable – why should the government violate your 2nd Amendment rights?"

Actually, I learned something in responding to your source question.

Texas follows the Federal Law. The Texas law of age 18 for Long Guns and age 21 for Hand Guns is not unique. There are only 7 states that restrict Long Guns to age 21. All states restrict Handguns to 21.

Florida is one of the seven states. It was signed into law by one of the most Conservative US Senators when he was Governor Of Florida...Rick Scott. Long Guns and Handguns restricted to age 21.

“Did you know that EVERY adult (non-criminal) male in Switzerland has a government supplied rifle and ammo? Ever wonder why Switzerland has never been invaded since declaring neutrality?”

FACT: Military issued firearms may be purchased from the government after service, and then the gun is converted to a non-assault weapon (meaning, a fully automatic converted into a semiautomatic weapon). Restrictions can be placed on both the firearm and its ammunition.

BOTTOMLINE: While getting the exact numbers on gun ownership is a bit tricky, the idea that the Swiss males are required to own firearms and the idea that all Swiss males own firearms is a myth.

 





Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   So....
Date:   5/27/2022 9:01:39 PM

"...the gun is converted to a non-assault weapon (meaning, a fully automatic converted into a semiautomatic weapon)."

Under your definition assault rifles are already outlawed.  There are no fully automatic AR-15s available to the general public, and only available to federally licensed firearms dealers under extremely strict controls.  





Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   So....DUDE READ IT AGAIN
Date:   5/27/2022 10:08:24 PM

The conversion was in Switzerland not the USA....





Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   So?
Date:   5/27/2022 10:52:05 PM

The same machine is not an assault rifle in Switzerland but is in the US?  I agree with Martini. You need to get back on your meds.





Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   So?
Date:   5/28/2022 12:29:44 AM

Why did the police wait 47 mintes before confronting the killer since all he had was a  semi automatic AR15????  Come on according to your definition it is not much more than a pea shooter.

Wonder if the kids calling 911 and smearing themselves with blood were concerned with semi vs auto vs assault???? 18 year olds don't need an AR15. My meds tell me that.





Name:   wix - Email Member
Subject:   GOOF-MENTAL-PATIENT (DIMOKRAP)
Date:   5/28/2022 7:29:53 AM

18 yr old mentally deranged, dangerous human should have been institutionalized, not on the streets.  Liberal idiot, dimokraps are at fault….period.





Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   GOOF-MENTAL-PATIENT (DIMOKRAP)
Date:   5/28/2022 7:40:32 AM

Where in the Constitution does that appear?





Name:   wix - Email Member
Subject:   GOOF-MENTAL-PATIENT (DIMOKRAP)
Date:   5/28/2022 9:16:34 AM

Does what appear???  Do you mean that liberal idiots are OK to allow mentally deranged humans to roam the country and kill as desired??  Is that what you mean.  

Thanks to the heavens that the Constitution was not written (nor influenced) by liberal idiot dimokraps.  Ya’ll have tried to eliminate the Constitution for hundreds of years….why are you pretending to hide behind the Constitution now??  Answer….and without BS.





Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   Goofy, the pretzel maker
Date:   5/28/2022 12:01:21 PM

Typical liberal, twisting words in an attempt to make them say what they didn't.

YOU go back and read my post.  All I did was draw the conclusion that an AR-15 must not be an assault weapon based on YOUR post.  As to 18 vs 21, a demented person doesn't magically become rational just because they hit the 21st anniversary of their birth.  Maybe somewhat more likely to think twice before committing such a heinous act, but it isn't a magical solution.  As the Texas Governor said, 18 year olds have been able to buy rifles in Texas for almost 200 years and it is only recently that this school shooting phenomeon has arisen.  Changing the law only addreses the symptom of the "disease", not the cause.





Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   Goofy, the pretzel maker
Date:   5/28/2022 2:32:05 PM

I agree with you.  These shootings are a symptom of the problem, and guns are not the problem.  Just like drugs are not the problem, but a symptom of a problem. 

It never fails to amaze me the way people jump on the message, without thinking objectively about what the problem is in our society.  And there is a problem, but it is not the availability of guns or drugs.  





Name:   MountainMan - Email Member
Subject:   Wix Nut Case
Date:   6/1/2022 12:46:28 AM

Are you currently institutionalized?





Name:   phil - Email Member
Subject:   Wix Nut Case
Date:   6/1/2022 12:46:42 PM

Why you want to date him if he is in the same wing as you?????









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