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bama1957
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3/12/2011 9:17:04 AM
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With all the comments about Alabama Power not knowing what they are doing, I have started this survey.
Here's the question. When you decided to buy property on Logan Martin, how much research did you do as to the possibility of the lake flooding and damage from it?
The lake has flooded dozens of times since the lake was dammed up. Did you ignore this fact or oblivious to that fact? Did you understand that Lay Lake has no flood storage capability and Neely Henry has very little flood storage? These two facts severely restricts how the river system can dispose of excess water.
As for my decision to buy property and build our full time residence, I knew the level of the lake can be extreme on both ends of the curve. I had seen floods as well as droughts. These concerns played a role as to where I would buy or not.
My wife and I knew we wanted a lot with a sunset view. The next consideration was a lot that had enough slope (but not to steep to traverse when we get older) to minimize damage when the lake did flood. We practiced due diligence to the best of our ability but still could not foresee the future. Our lot is on the east side of the lake and acts like a toilet bowl, collecting what seems to be all the trash the lakes gives back when she floods. We built a metal floating dock to reduce our impact from floods. The only real damage we suffer is the debris field left in the yard when the water recedes.
My real question to those who complain about Alabama Power being the cause of flooding or drought problems, was the decision to buy property on Logan Martin made without thinking about the worst of situations?
I don't like the flooding or droughts anymore than the next guy, but you will never hear me complain that it's someone else fault. I know this is going to stir feathers posting this, but I want to know.
The good thing is the water level has slowed to a creep so I think the water will crest soon and start receding.
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twc
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3/12/2011 10:17:03 AM
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I'll bite:
Yes I did. I knew that Logan Martin flooded every now and then. And I knew that APCO generates the majority of their power from our dam, therefore, when it doesn't rain, we still loose water. But I really thought with todays forcasting information, those issues would decrease from the past. Wrong!
But...I too enjoy the sunsets. I think I have the best sunset view north of Key West and I wouldn't trade it for anything. I'm on a steep lot but I need and enjoy the excercise of the 109 stairs from the pier to the house. (133 if you count them all the way to my bed) It just disturbs me that the appearance at least is that APCO treats Logan Martin like the red headed stepchild whenever it comes to lake levels. Per acre, there are far fewer homes on Lay or Neely Henry and they are always full.
One other thing while I have the floor. One of the several excuses they (APCO) give for the low water levels in the winter and early spring, not just on Logan Martin but on other lakes (Martin) as well is the fishing. They say that they wait until the spring spawn where the fish get into the shallow water to lay eggs. Once they hatch, the water comes up, hence, the great fishing. Well....what about the flood? Whats gonna happen to all those eggs that have been laid now? I know several folks that have already caught some fat female bass.
I'm on the main channel so I really don't usually get that much debis. But I will still have to do some cleaning up. My pier is simple and short so usually, just a good scrubbing takes care of the flooding. Might have to replace a few boards. But overall, I have only seen one other house and one other lot that I would even consider trading for. Like I said in an earlier post, just another crappy day in our corner of paradise!
Peace,
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TC
P.S. My appologies to and red headed step children that might take offense at the above statement. Purely an expression.
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Cobra122
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3/12/2011 10:25:06 AM
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I'll be the first to admit, our research was done with all the wrong people. And yes, we did look at the internet also and yes, we did see that there have been dramtic swings in water levels over the years. We bought because of a beautiful gently sloping lot on the St Clair side with a wonderful sunrise view and a cool shade in the late afternoon. And no, you don't ruffle my feathers--I accept responsibility for what I did....and would definitely do it again.
Now, with that said, don't criticize me for complaining. I enjoy it and don't intend to stop. I realize that nothing is going to change and that's ok as I deal with it. I also appreciate the fact that AL Power has provided this great playground for us. Could they do a better job and do they play favorites at times?
Yes, I think they do but name one major corporation that doesn't, I expect that.
The pros far outweigh the cons and I am here to stay, to try and be a good neighbor and protect all our investmensts and homes as best as I can. We each have our own opinions--without them, life would be pretty dull most of the time. But I will complain when I feel like it... it's a great way to relieve stress and can be fun too.
See all of you on the water soon!
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bama1957
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3/12/2011 10:59:22 AM
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Alabama Power has 14 hydroelectric facilities throughout the state which provide 6% of the company's power generation. Without a doubt, the state depends on these facilities as a source of dependable, stable and reasonably-priced electricity. In addition, these facilities provide more than 157,000 acres of water and more than 4,000 miles of shoreline for the use and enjoyment of the general public.
TC, I appreciate your comments. Above statement from Alabama Powers website states only 6% of it's power is derived from hydro dams, but we are the real beneficiaries of the project.
My wife and I love the sunset so much, we named our little cove Sunset Cove. We even had a street sign made and put it on the dock to help people identify it. I invite anyone for cocktails on the deck and enjoy the sunset. As others have mentioned before, we as forum members should get together and have a greet and meet. My wife and I are willing to host the event. Let's make this happen soon!
Dave
ps. we are the 7th house from Logan Martin Dam on the Talladega side. Stop by and say hello. Also, we can never have enough contacts on the lake in case something happens (on or off the water). My cell number is 205-296-8340 (Dave Smith). Store it, if I can help anyone in anyway, call.
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twc
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3/12/2011 2:34:02 PM
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I didn't make my point clear. Sorry. Yes, 6 percent. But according to a friend at APCO, they generate almost 25 percent of that 6 from Logan Martin. I should have said that better. Be that as it may, whether it's true or not really doesn't matter. It's still an awesome place.
I just flew up from the south and noticed that Lay and Mitchell are way up too. Lay dam was wide open. Couldn't see Logan Martin but I'm sure they are doing their best. Point is, we aren't suffering alone.
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dogdoc97
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3/12/2011 6:18:58 PM (updated 3/12/2011 6:21:35 PM)
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As David knows we are new, and when we built we builtBEHIND the 100 year flood plan, and yes we are on a niceope so I think we are ok,...BUT what I do hear folks complaining about is that dont fill till late Spring, lower BEFORE Labor day, and so it cuts our boating season while Lay lake stays full as a "river run" lake I think the term is, now I hear that if Logan was to release it would flood the town, etc, but I also hear that APCO execs live on Lay and there are so many water sports people thats alsohy they are at constant pool and we are not...my only complaint now is that neither our realtor, builder,banker or others INCLUDING APCO told us it was a "holding Lake" when we applied for our dock/sea wall work permit, that I think is not right! dogdoc
SORRY FOR THE TYPOS!! I cannot fix the over write key?
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grdc7
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3/13/2011 12:07:04 PM
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I understand Logan Martin is a flood control lake and when nature provides an over abundance of rain we may have Logan Martin at flood stages. I believe this time it was a man made flood on Logan Martin. All the other reservoirs were below their winter pool throughout the high water, except Weiss and Logan Martin. I have email Alabama Power many times through the years to help provide an understanding and they just do not answer.
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steve
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3/15/2011 9:08:29 AM
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Ok now I have the floor..LOL I have fished Logan for 30 years and never new it was a flood lake. When I bought the property people forgot to tell me all this info (owner, real estate agent, ect...). I have a flat lot on the east side also and I to catch all the garbage from up the river. I have owned it for four years now and I am starting a house this year out of the flood zone. I dont know how many people know where the river starts, but it starts in Rome Ga. At that point down it is fed by hundreds of small and large rivers. This includes the Coosawattee, Etowah, and the Chattooga and so on. They collect a lot of water and thats why we have to be so low in the wimter. When we get heavy rains in north Ga. then I know its flowing down hill and going to flood. I did have great people at the Tradesman Company build my dock and they did tell me this info about the flooding and installed a floating dock. Great investment. I have learned now how to live with it and I would not trade my lake lot for anything. You just have to adjust.
I too think this was totally uncalled for this time and was a man made flood. If you check the levels you will see that very little water was coming from Rome and Henry was down 5 and 6 feet for five days. I just think it could have been better managed with this day and age technology. It looks loke we will have a clean up party this weekend.
I would love for all of us to get together this year and hang for one evening. We will ride down and see you this summer. Take care, GA. Steve
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