Name:	Classified -	Reply
Subject:	Hilda Reaching Out
Date:	10/20/2016 10:21:48 PM

The following are some of her closing remarks at the debate.

Hillary Clinton

I would like to say to everyone watching tonight that I’m reaching out to all Americans, Democrats, Republicans and Independents, because we need everybody to help make our country what it should be. To grow the economy, to make it fairer. To make it work for everyone. We need your talents, your skills, your commitment, your energy, your ambition. You know, I’ve been privileged to see the presidency up close, and I know the awesome responsibility of protecting our country and the incredible opportunity of working to try to make life better for all of you.

My comments:

Hilda, you can't call some Americans names then act like you did not do it.  When Hilda apologizes for her deplorables comment, then she can reach out to all Americans. 

Hillary Clinton’s message to voters: Yes, I may have said and done terrible things but because Putin is behind these leaks, you should vote for me anyway. 

One observer commented that Hilda wearing white is like Magic Johnson claiming celibracy................

Do we really want 4 years of pants suits?

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Hilda Reaching Out
Date:	10/20/2016 10:47:21 PM

Compared to the alternate, YES.........

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	DITTO
Date:	10/21/2016 9:08:45 AM

And all the Trump lovers on this forum should be preparing on Nov 9 to either accept four years of pant suits or take to the hills with their arms and survival gear...each of you make your choice.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	DITTO
Date:	10/21/2016 9:24:57 AM

And if Trump wins 4 years of pissing on moaning by the interchangable duo/trio with their heads in the sand unwilling to stand up and protect themselves or their families - putting that burdon on anyone but themselves while they live in snowflake land in their little snow globe bubbles to protect themselves from that mean ol man.

But they will pound those keyboards to tell us all about their beloved Hillary, and probbaly how a republican stole the election again.

Name:	Buteye -	Reply
Subject:	DITTO
Date:	10/21/2016 12:28:06 PM

I would love to be the supplier of Hillary's pant suits.  A new pant suit for every day of the year would be worth thousands and thousands of dollars. While I acknowledge she has to use every weapon in her arsenal to try to look good, I think it is a kick in the face to her and the democratic party to flaunt her richness while we have millions of people who are in poverty, homleless, and hungry, and may have to wear whatever bare essentials of clothing they have for days at a time. What does it take for anyone to see that the number of people who who share the plight of these people have drastically increased during the last eight years of the Obama rule?

Name:	CRD -	Reply
Subject:	DITTO
Date:	10/21/2016 1:05:12 PM

Archie,

I have not heard your apology for your miscontruing Hillary's Partial Birth Abortion stance.  Trump laid it all out there, like I did, and not a word of objection from her.  You seem to be consistently willing to choose a candidate really without knowing the platform.  Fairly commom among libs.

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	DITTO
Date:	10/21/2016 2:10:30 PM

Wonder where you get off on accusing somebody who does not agree with you as not willing to protect their families?  You are as big a sick minded bully as you new saviour!

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	DITTO
Date:	10/21/2016 2:17:53 PM (updated 10/21/2016 2:20:25 PM)

Strange, you obviously do not hear English words the way I do.  She did answer.  She said she opposed late term abortion ban if it did not include an exception for the life or health of the mother.  That is exactly what I pointed out in my post. 

When I issue an apology it does not start with an ''if'' or end with a ''but''.  In this case NO apology is needed unless it comes from you for false claims about Clinton's stance on late term abortion stated in the debate.  Google the last debate and listen again, maybe you will hear it right the 2d time if you actually listen to hear what is being said rather than hearing what you want to hear whether it is said or not.

Name:	CRD -	Reply
Subject:	DITTO
Date:	10/22/2016 5:03:47 PM

Archie,

You don't seem to have been taught to pay attention to  fine details when debating.  Surprising given your presumed profession.  Instead of your simple repeating of talking points that take no intellect whatsoever, may I offer some advice. Listen again to the debate.  Pay attention to the carefully placed verbs and what they mean.  This is the only way to decipher politicians.  She did not say, nor has she ever said, there "should be" restrictions, but there "can be" restrictions.  Big difference Archie.  She never once objected to DJT's description of her position on abortion as he described the potential for a baby to be "ripped" from the womb at the 9 month of gestation. Why?  Because she hides behind the simple non qualifier "health" of the mother.  Health can literally mean an unrelenting headache according to the courts.  That term has been broadened to include just about every condition.  How is that a restriction?  She is unabashedly for PBA and your apology is accepted.

Name:	architect -	Reply
Subject:	DITTO
Date:	10/22/2016 6:05:49 PM (updated 10/22/2016 6:10:49 PM)

You just made it even more obvious that you hear what you want to hear rather than what is said.  That ridiculous comment comparing ''may be'' and ''should be'' further demonstrates it.  She said late term abortions restrictions must have an exception for the life or health of the woman in order for her to support a restriction which bans the procedure.  Now answer a question abouit your beliefs...would you require a woman to bear a child EVEN if bearing that child would result in her death?  It has happened in Central America!

Name:	CRD -	Reply
Subject:	DITTO
Date:	10/23/2016 3:23:14 PM

Archie,

it was "can be" and "should be"  Not ridiculous, on the contrary, politically calculating.  The USSC has even stated in Doe v Bolton that "health" can mean emotional, financial, psychological, familial. and physical.  So don't keep falling back to the life of the mother and forget that she stands in favor of PBA for "health" reasons as well.  Comment on the following:

"In addition, over 1000 medical providers have signed the Dublin Declaration, which affirms that abortion is never medically necessary to save the life of the mother.

As experienced practitioners and researchers in obstetrics and gynecology, we affirm that direct abortion – the purposeful destruction of the unborn child – is not medically necessary to save the life of a woman.  We hold that there is a fundamental difference between abortion, and necessary medical treatments that are carried out to save the life of the mother, even if such treatment results in the loss of life of her unborn child.  We confirm that the prohibition of abortion does not affect, in any way, the availability of optimal care to pregnant women.

 

 

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	DITTO
Date:	10/24/2016 10:44:39 AM

OH stick it in your ear your pretentious blowhard - Between your love of the dems and the lack of love for the 2nd amendment, your lock and load and run for the hills militia crap - 

The only fight you have in you is with how fast you can click your keys.  You love to question everyones patriotism if they claim an election is rigged - and we can see evidence daily about how easy that is.  You love to stand up for everones children especially my own if they were in a Trump Whitehouse - bah, you are about is ignorant and obvious as a 2 year old not getting some candy from the store stomping your feet and in need of a timeout or a trip to the woodshed.

You love to bloviate is only 2nd to copperline and he only comes around late in the game cause he was waiting on his Hillary crap from his teletype vs his fax machine.

Wonder where you get off on accusing somebody who does not agree with you as not willing to protect their families?  You are as big a sick minded bully as you new saviour!

Lets talk about a sick minded bully as you want to stick my daughter in the Whitehouse wth anyone, you would not mind the rapist back in the Whitehouse, you have never met a republican issue you have not hyped and a Democratic one you have not claimed to be debunked, without evidence.  Much like Trump who you shouted from the rooftops that it was not debunked.  You want to claim I would not protect my family or want to put it out that they would need protecting from Trump but not your darlings in the DNC.   Sorry I can care less about your triggers and safe spaces.  You want to claim anyone would join a militia, "lock and load Trumpistas" and run for the hills because of a election - I think the fact that none of that crap happened under Obama is a testiment to the fact you are in need to be tested for dementia.  The fact that people do have real lines in the sand that when our Government crosses it that people will in fact stand up to the ultimate bully of the US Government and say enough is enough and back it up if they have to, and you have the gall to type that those people are just sick minded bullies.  

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	DITTO
Date:	10/24/2016 10:54:32 AM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetal_viability

lovely chart of childs chance of survival being born pre term.

around 5.5 months (24 weeks )  there is a 50 % chance of survival.  Why can the child not be delivered in the 9th month at almost full term where anything above 34 weeks ( late 8th month ) has a 98% chance of survival.  

I do not have a problem with a womans right to chose - she can get health insurance that covers it or pay for it out of pocket.  Why should it come from tax dollars.