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Name:   water_watcher - Email Member
Subject:   Biden admits mistakes
Date:   7/5/2009 5:03:34 PM

On the sunday interview with Biden he said they have made mistakes in the economy and underestimated the need for stimulus that would have a faster impact.

Ummm ... what would it have taken for them not to misread the greatest crisis since the depression (caused by them dems with their mortgage availability programs for all).

BUT !!! he "promised" the economy would grow jobs in July and things would increase from there.

Not sure if he is saying we will actually add jobs, which would be highly unusual to go from losing 650,000 to gaining. Maybe he is saying we will just not lose as many. But he did say we would "add" jobs in July.

Asked if a second stimulus will be needed he said, he did not know, but they would do whatever is necessary.

Ummm again ... if we will add jobs in July and grow from there ... why would a second stimulus even be a consideration. Could it be he does not know what he is talking about, like the whole administration.

While the they are srewing up the US and people are losing jobs, Obama is filming the "Obama Whitehouse". Oh I can wait.




Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   Biden admits mistakes
Date:   7/5/2009 6:16:50 PM

If you are talking about the Stephanopoulus(?sp) interview you perhaps you weren't listening as well as you should have been. Biden said the Obama administration had greatly underestimated how bad the recession would be, not that they had "made mistakes in the economy". I think you will agree there is a difference. You stated that we had lost 650000 jobs, I assume you mean in June. If so you are incorrect again, the June loss was 467000. Not good but less bad than your statement by 183000. A bit of good news in the June report was that the May loss was revised downward from 347000 to 322000. I know it is very upsetting to all of you who so badly want Obama to fail so you can put the likes of Sarah (I'm too brillant to be a mere Governor) Palin in his place, but the fact is the economy is very slowly turning. to be sure its more like a loaded tanker at sea than a Seadoo on Lake Martin but it is turning.



Name:   water_watcher - Email Member
Subject:   Biden admits mistakes
Date:   7/5/2009 7:05:25 PM

My god you bleed liberal blood making excuses for FAILURE. Underestimating how bad the recession was is a MISTAKE. It does not take a rocket scientist to see how bad things were. If they UNDERESTIMATED how bad .... the WHY did they feel it was so ncessary to pass a $780 BILLION stimulus that is doing NOTHING.

More liberal lies. If they did not think it was bad, why double the deficit in one bill. Why pass the biggest budget in history?

So which lie are you supporting? The one today that they underestimated how bad the recession was or the one when they pushed a wasteful spending bill through called stimulus that the liberals did not even read?

And gee, if they did not know it was bad, why buy an auto company?

You liberals can not admit you have no clue, then when it does not work you want to say you did not know or blame others for your failures.







Name:   water_watcher - Email Member
Subject:   and BTW
Date:   7/5/2009 7:12:11 PM

I and many others have said while we think Obama is dead wrong in his approach, we also say we hope it does work because we love this country and we put that first.

More than you liberals can say ... Bush turned around a dead economy left by Clinton, then 9/11. He took the right actions and the liberals complained that it was not good quality jobs and unemployment was too high at 5%. But now that Obama has doubled unemployment and double the defitcit in his first year ... the liberals will not admit anything is wrong, all is good.

Don't worry, we will not wish Obama to fail. He will do that with the help of Pelosi, Reid, Waters, Boxer, Frankin, Franks, etc. The clown squad !!!.

And yes, eventually the economy will turn around, it always does, but the point is Obama's actions have delayed what would have naturally have happened and making it less robust because of the wasteful spending and bigger government.



Name:   water_watcher - Email Member
Subject:   Ignorance is never an excuse
Date:   7/5/2009 7:23:15 PM

Try going to court for a speeding ticket and say you did not know the speed limit and see how far it gets you. So why do you geven try to support the lie "we did not know". It is their job to know. And as I already pointed out ... if they did not think it was so bad, whypush through an "emergency" stimulus of $780 billion?

One lie after another and the liberals just accept. You are so spinless you should be ashamed of yourself.



Name:   JustAGuy - Email Member
Subject:   Ignorance is never an excuse
Date:   7/5/2009 8:13:23 PM

"One lie after another and the liberals just accept."

It's kinda like how some conservatives hear a lie ... like that congressmen don't pay into Social Security and that when they retire they get their last salary for life .... and they believe it hook, line and sinker, without actually investigating whether it is true or not.

Hello, Kettle? This is Pot. You are black. :)



Name:   water_watcher - Email Member
Subject:   Ignorance is never an excuse
Date:   7/5/2009 8:20:16 PM

you are still wrong and just like a typical liberal ... when you can't respond, try to change the subject.



Name:   JustAGuy - Email Member
Subject:   Ignorance is never an excuse
Date:   7/5/2009 8:29:26 PM

I'm confused ... did you not read the Snopes listing that debunks the "representatives/social security/pension for life", or did you read it and you just don't believe Snopes?

And I think your definition of "liberal" is anybody that has the audacity to disagree with WW. I promise you nobody who knows me would call me a liberal.

URL: Snopes officially says WW is wrong

Name:   water_watcher - Email Member
Subject:   Ignorance is never an excuse
Date:   7/5/2009 8:34:47 PM

Snope is a liberal rag that has been proven wrong so many times. that is your problem justagirl. You believed in hope and change and now you are getting failed policies and a declining economy.

BUT AGAIN ... try to stay with the topic and stop trying to change it when you can't respond. You just show how annoying you are. Just my two cent ... duh!



Name:   JustAGuy - Email Member
Subject:   Ignorance is never an excuse
Date:   7/5/2009 8:47:35 PM

Who says Snopes is liberal? I've never heard anybody say that.

From Wikipedia:

Snopes aims to debunk or confirm widely spread urban legends. The site has been referenced by news media and other sites, including CNN,[7] FOX news,[8] MSNBC[9] and Australia's ABC on its 'Media Watch' program.

So Fox News is now referencing "liberal rags"? That really is news ...

Snopes receives more complaints that it is too liberal than that it is too conservative, but insists that it applies the same debunking standards to all political stories. FactCheck reviewed a sample of Snopes' responses to political rumors regarding George W. Bush, Sarah Palin and Barack Obama, and found them to be free from bias in all cases.[17]

Lastly, I may be wrong but I think you had a post last week berating someone (architect?) for name-calling ... so calling me justagirl is what?


URL: Full Wikipedia listing on Snopes.com

Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   Snopes is a "liberal rag"?
Date:   7/6/2009 7:28:37 AM

Me thinks WW has been visiting his wine cellar a bit too often when he wrote this.

Earth to WW -- Everything is NOT a vast liberal conspiracy.

>giggle<



Name:   water_watcher - Email Member
Subject:   Snopes is a "liberal rag"?
Date:   7/6/2009 8:03:26 AM

maybe :)




Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   The gift
Date:   7/6/2009 9:30:47 AM

that keeps giving to the exterme left in America. That's water watcher. He is so over the top and off the wall that if any left wing blog ever latches on to this forum and takes his posts national the right will have to beg him to cease and desist with his comments.



Name:   water_watcher - Email Member
Subject:   The gift
Date:   7/6/2009 2:20:15 PM

yup, a typical uninformed liberal ... change the topic rather than respond to the real post, then start attacks to distract attention from the real issue. Yes, that is the liberal model.


Try, just try answering a question and staying on topic. You must be a horrible businessman. I am putting an addition on and needed an architect, but I was afraid to contact anyone at the lake for fear it would be you (if you really are one), so I am using a firm out of Atlanta.




Name:   water_watcher - Email Member
Subject:   Archie
Date:   7/6/2009 4:59:25 PM

How come you come out and attack and then I presented some pretty clear questions ... why is it you are afraid to answer. Do you not have a mind of your own to respond? Which lie did you support? The one on Sunday or when they said that we needed to waste $787 billion dollars to kick start the economy. Which has not worked?

So which is it? Which lie did you buy in to? Can't have both. The statement on Sunday makes no sense considering they pushed an "emergency" stimulus (largest in history and more money than Bush spent in 8 years).

So tell us which lie you bought in to! The ONLY reason Biden is saying what he did Sunday is because the stimulus is NOT working - just as many of us said it would not. It has made things worse and now they are laying the ground work to ask for even more.





Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   see what I mean?
Date:   7/6/2009 5:59:34 PM

I rest my case.



Name:   water_watcher - Email Member
Subject:   Archie
Date:   7/6/2009 6:26:01 PM

huh ... no answer from you. Of course not. You are a piece of work. Were you picked on as a child and that is the reason you are afraid to ever answer a question and just go on the attack and change the topic instead?

Has to be some explanation why you never respond and stay on topic ... you are always in left field.

Try to stay on topic from now on if you are going to respond to a post.









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