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MrHodja
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10/12/2010 5:01:39 PM
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Not like our regulars to stay silent this long....wondering if the forum is broken...if this goes, then I guess everyone is still tired from a long weekend.
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comrade
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10/12/2010 7:35:57 PM
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I'm just still trying to absorb the fact that Obama and his minions have decided to attack the Chamber of Commerce (Carl Rove I can understand - they know they can get a rise out of the name itself at any time or situation) - the prisoners beginning to run the prison........
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alahusker
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10/12/2010 8:23:28 PM
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Just waiting for Hound to explain why She voted for our current president and see if there is a bit of buyer's remorse at this point.. Or for Gone Fishing to let us know what he thinks about midterm polling??
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MartiniMan
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10/12/2010 10:46:30 PM
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I think what you have are two issues: 1) folks like Hound and GF can no longer defend the indefensible; and 2) those of us with a brain that knew better from the outset are weary of the constant litany of incompetence, race baiting, finger pointing and whining and are just looking forward to November when we put some adults back in office. The grand experiment with uunbridled liberalism and statism is coming to a close and none too soon.
Hopefully it will last as long as the lesson we learned from the Carter years before a new generation makes the same imbecilic mistake.
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Talullahhound
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10/12/2010 11:07:25 PM
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I think I have been very clear as to why I voted for Obama. I felt he was a better choice than John McCain. Nothing has changed my mind about that. We're getting out of Iraq, where we should not have been to start with. Under McCain, we'd still be there.
Having said that, I am disappointed in Obama. I feel that the health care changes are not what was needed -- I thought we needed some reform of healthcare, but what we got as a result of the effort hasn't solved the problem for the majority of people. I feel that his lack of focus on the economy has been a big mistake. I don't blame him for the economic problems, because I think they were the result of bad policies and lack of attention , probably going back to Clinton. I am concerned about the deficet, but no more really than I was under Bush. I think the deficet would have risen under either party.
I'm really disappointed about the lack of leadership in Washington all the way around. I don't approve of what the Republicans have done -- folding their arms and just saying no to everything. And I don't approve of what the Democrats have done (or not done, either). I really expected that Obama would make good on his promise for bipartisan solutions, but that hasn't happened. I'm anxious to see what happens in the mid-terms, and like everyone else, I'm anxious to see who emerges as the candidates for 2012.
The best thing I can say that it appears that as a country, maybe we have awakened from the stupor we've been in for years now. People are thinking, and talking and that is a good thing.
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MrHodja
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10/12/2010 11:46:25 PM
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With what has happened in the past two years I don't know how any rational, thinking person could say that Barack Obama was a better choice than John McCain.
Sometimes status quo is better than the change.
Nasreddin Hodja
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GoneFishin
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Mid Term Huskieeeee
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10/13/2010 1:30:17 AM
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I believe Republicans will take control of the House and Dems will keep control of the Senate by 1 or 2 votes.
Republicans will look back and realize that the loss of Deleware to the Dems. was the result of nominating O'Donnell rather than the Castle who would have beat the Dem. candidate.
I have said previously that having one party control both Congress and the Presidency is not healthy for the Country. So, I have no fear if the Republicans win the House. I do suspect those freshman who enter Congress will be so far to the Right than very little will be accomplished the next two years as the word "compromise" is not in their vocabulary.
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lotowner
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Let's Be Factual
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10/13/2010 6:59:19 AM
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I am so glad that the "unidentified" millions have taken a leadership role for change in this country. It is so easy to accuse Republicans of not being able to compromise when a herd of 1000 pound bulls are running rampantly around Congress. If I remember correctly, the phrase "We won the election" was use-ed extensively by the Democrats. Pleas show me a part of the Health care bill that was bipartisan. The same also applies to the bailout of GM and Chrysler. We have had legislation for many years governing bankruptcy.
What about the term "openness" used during the election which became obsolete in discussion by the Democrats. This administration's directives for civilian trills for Guantanamo detainees, illegal immigration, and border security will haunt this country.
Change is coming like a freight train by the citizens. I plan to buy a ticket and enjoy the ride. I am looking forward to a Congress and administration with first priority being this country. If we substitute country for ideology, compromise will seen on both parties. I'm tired of seeing laws enacted with special provision to exclude some groups (IE, unions and health care). This is one part of the bill that was read and understood by the Democratic majority.
ROLL AMERICA
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water_watcher
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Mid Term Huskieeeee
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10/13/2010 7:50:42 AM
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Not sure I agree with the senate ... but we will see.
The lack of middle ground is who is in control now and it starts in the white house. Their idea of middle ground is agree and vote for what we want, otherwise you are wrong and will not work with us.
Just like the republicans saved Clinton when they took over congress and moved the country in the right direction and created jobs until 2006 when the dems took over congress .... Obamanation should be thanking his lucky stars that the country will answer his "change" with "no more", "enough", "we regret the mistake we made".
Fishy, we all know you do not regret your decision .... why is that .... please, please, please enlighten us .... you are great at personal attacks and picking the fly s__t out of the pepper, but you never defend the issues of your party and say how they were good, and are good, in moving the country in the right direction.
You are the party of attacks. You ignore the issues. Is there any dem running on healthcare, fin reg, massive failed spending, unemployment rate, higher taxes, failing to extend Bush Tax cuts .... or other things the dems want like card check, double taxation for corp that have overseas operations, cap and trade, etc, etc .... nope silent on the issues, but very loud on personal attacks.
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MartiniMan
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10/13/2010 9:17:16 AM
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So what you are saying is that it is better for 1 in 5 Americans to be unemployed just so we can grasp defeat from the jaws of victory in Iraq. It is better to have a national debt of trillions of dollars that will be generational theft and adversely impact our children and grandchildren's standard of living so we can retreat from Iraq? So it is better that the federal government takes over our national health care system which will increase costs, reduce quality, cut $500B from seniors and ultimately result in a single payer system and rationing of health care just so we can take advantage of the results of the Bush surge and pull a few troops out of Iraq?
Gee Hound, from my perspective that is a pretty warped view of the world but you have at it. As for me, as imperfect as McCain was and certainly not my first or even second choice I was not so blinded or foolish to think he could have been 1/10th as destructive to America as OCarter has been and will continue to be. You stick by your decision while millions of other independent voters have come to their senses. Pretty soon it will be just you, your pride and the 20% of left wing nuts like GF that are proud of their vote.
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MartiniMan
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Mid Term Huskieeeee
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10/13/2010 9:31:55 AM
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GF, I suspect you are right about the House and the Senate although in a momentum election like this appears to be there could be some surprises. I do think Delaware and Connecticut are closer than some polls suggest as evidenced by the national Dem machine putting resources into those two races, including Imam OCarter himself going to Connecticut to stump for the Vietnam veteran Blumenthal.....oh wait a second, he actually lied about going to Vietnam....or maybe he confused his long weekend in Bangkok smoking dope and carousing the houses of ill repute as being the same as serving in Vietnam. Who really knows with someone who would lie about something like that.
Anyway, I digress. I am less concerned with taking control of the Senate anyway because what we really need is enough solidly conservative votes to avoid cloture on big issues. With the number of RINO Senators (Collins, Snowe, etc.) voting with the Dems as often as with the GOP it is likely we couldn't pass anything of real value anyway (like the repeal and replacement of Obamacare with something that will actually help the American people).
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MartiniMan
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Pride overcomes rational and thinking
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10/13/2010 9:42:23 AM
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Hound will never swallow her pride and admit that her decision was wrong. She just doesn't have it in her. She would rather see the country ruined just to get out of a war that she didn't like. It is pretty sad..........
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Talullahhound
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Sometimes it is
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10/13/2010 5:25:13 PM
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but not this time. McCain has subsequently shown that he is willing to go in whatever direction he has to in order to win an election. I think since his defeat, his true colors have been shown. He's bitter and unhappy and has attempted to re-engineer his image to one that will get him re-elected. Don't take my word for it. There are a number of articles floating around about it.
Obama is a true policy wonk. Not necesarily a bad thing, but not the charismatic leader that is needed right now.
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Talullahhound
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Nothing to swallow, not a matter of pride.
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10/13/2010 5:35:58 PM
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I am happy that I voted for Obama over McCain. I would do it again. Do you not realize that fighting an unnecessary war costs $$$$$, both in money and lives?
Since the election, McCain has showed his true colors. He has "re-invented" himself, for political purposes. Have you not read the various articles that are floating around about this?
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MrHodja
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Sometimes it is
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10/13/2010 5:36:40 PM
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In your own words: "McCain has subsequently shown that he is willing to go in whatever direction he has to in order to win an election."
Hmmmm.. Sounds like an awfully accurate description of Bill Clinton. In the opinion of a lot of folks that he seemed to do OK.
And even if he is just a "policy wonk" the policies he advocates are atrocious and destructive.
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Talullahhound
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Sometimes it is
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10/13/2010 5:40:23 PM
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That may be true, but I was never a fan of Bill Clinton either.
I understand that you don't agree with Obama's policies, and I've already said that I'm not happy with his health care. I don't think his policies have proven to be destructive. That will be seen in years to come. It's too soon to make a judgement.
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MrHodja
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Sometimes it is
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10/13/2010 6:26:48 PM
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You're right, his policies haven't proven to be destructive - yet. My fear is that it I may be pushing up daisies before the real cost is known and it destroys us.
But his policies have NEVER worked. What makes you think the US will be any different?
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MartiniMan
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Tell me you're joking.....a policy wonk?????
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10/13/2010 10:08:12 PM
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His policies have not been desctructive?!?!? Hound, of all the ignorant things you have typed that pne takes the cake. His policies have created a deficit that exceeds the entire deficit of all the Presidents that preceded him combined....to the tune of trillions of dollars. His deficit will saddle our children and grandchildren with a crushing debt that will lower their standard of living. I realize you could care less about future generations as you are the epitome of the self centered baby boomer but some of us do care and are sickened by it. You got yours so screw future generations. You and Keynes would get along just fine because that is essentially what he said when asked about the crushing debt his economic philosophy would leave behind....who cares, I'll be long dead.
I take it back, its not a matter of pride. It's something much worse and much more disturbing. Thank the good Lord that the millions of independents that took a chance on hope have come to their senses. Just leaves you and the left wing nuts.......pretty good company in my estimation.
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lotowner
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Sometimes it is
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10/14/2010 4:36:26 PM
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TH
Winston Churchill said ""Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."
I view Obama standing in the midst of a burned out house with his hands on his hips, smoke evident, and everything a total loss when I read your statement above " I don't think his policies have proven to be destructive". I cannot imagine how a person of your intellect can be so pro Obama when all evidence points to his Presidency as being a total failure, including Health care.
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alahusker
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Sometimes it is
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10/15/2010 10:12:42 PM
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We should pay attention to Sir Winston, but also consider the source -- an extreme right wing nut..
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MrHodja
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Sometimes it is
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10/15/2010 11:00:16 PM
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And in your significant life experiences (and that is NOT a jab) is his right wing nut characterization a good thing or not?
BTW, the B-52 was/is affectionately known as the BUFF. Like to share the G and X versions of what that means?
:>)
Nasreddin Hodja, retired commoonikater...
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alahusker
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Sometimes it is
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10/16/2010 1:09:00 AM
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Well I was a math major, but have never heard of a socialist system of government working. We will see if this eexperiment, by the current administration has better sucess.. Re the "BUFF".. a wonderful lady created by Boeing.. The venerable B-52, some 750 strong "produced from 1958 - 1963 (about).." The "g" version of BUFF is 'big ugly fat fellow' the 'x' version is very close to that, substitute fellow for another word, and you have the fighter pilot's version.
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lotowner
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Sometimes it is
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10/16/2010 8:00:37 PM
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Definition of "Right Wing Nut"?
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MAJ USA RET
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Sometimes it is
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10/17/2010 1:32:45 PM
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Winnie... wasn't he the right wing nut job that stopped Hitler at the Channel?
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