Name:	lucky67 -	Reply
Subject:	taxes
Date:	2/6/2017 7:09:51 PM (updated 2/6/2017 7:10:42 PM)

D.C based Tax Foundation ranks Ala sales tax combined average of 9.01% (4% sales, 5.01% local) , as the 4th highest in the Nation; so one can only conclude the State is always broke because it spends more that it takes in & expenses must be cut--simple Economics 101 (not a required course for politicians)

Name:	RHH -	Reply
Subject:	taxes
Date:	2/6/2017 8:29:33 PM

Alabama has high sales tax which is regressive and hits low income people harder.

Overall, Alabama is a very low tax State. Property taxes need to be raised.

Name:	lakngulf -	Reply
Subject:	taxes
Date:	2/6/2017 8:39:51 PM

I am ok with higher property taxes, IF you include stocks and bonds as "property".   I used to argue with a professor who wanted higher property taxes.  I told him it was unfair to tax my Dad's cattle farm on the PRINCIPAL = property, and on the INCOME = cattle, grain, etc sold, IF you were not taxing a person on their PRINCIPAL = stock, and on the INCOME = dividend.  Stock principal, as I understand it, is only taxed on sales transaction, whereas my dad's land was taxed just being idle.

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	taxes
Date:	2/6/2017 9:36:50 PM

Considering that I used to pay over $6000 a year in property taxes in Northern VA, I'm quite happy paying what I do to Coosa County.  If they raise property taxes, then they will have to provide services, which are now non-existent.  Yes, they could raise property taxes, but you know that those of us on the lake will be hit much harder than anyone else in the county.  I would pay higher taxes for the fire department not to take 40 minutes to get to my house; and it would be nice to know that it wouldn't take 45 mintues to an hour for the Sheriff to arrive.  And it would be good if we had an airlift to the hospital for really serious injury or illness (since it takes 20 minutes at best to get to the hospital in Alex City) On a more modest scale, it would be nice if they raised taxes and actually fixed the road, rather than just putting that tar/gravel mix in the pot holes 2X per year.

I'm afraid I think that those in charge in Montgomery have no money management skills.  The whole kabal that is our state government does not promote a feeling of security.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	taxes
Date:	2/7/2017 11:49:46 AM

Property tax only will target land owners,  So you support allowing illegals or people who do not own land to not "pay their fair share"?

Name:	RHH -	Reply
Subject:	taxes
Date:	2/7/2017 3:42:31 PM

Those people you mention already pay the very high, regressive sales tax. They also pay income tax and surprisingly often they are paying social security taxes.

Name:	lucky67 -	Reply
Subject:	taxes
Date:	2/7/2017 3:48:38 PM

if Illegals pay Soc Sec & income taxes a s you say, then we know who/where they are ; i think your smoking rabbit tobacco if you think illegals do this

Name:	Talullahhound -	Reply
Subject:	taxes
Date:	2/7/2017 4:41:55 PM

Some give a fake SSN and they do pay into SS, just not under their name.  who knows where that money goes, or if the employer ever really pays it.  Same for income tax. 

I don't have any valuable statistic (but I am real skeptical of statistics anyway), but I suspect a high number of illegals are working without a green card, without an actual SSN and I doubt the employers send in any imcome tax for them, because they are transparent.  They are working under the table (and employers are happy, because they don't have to pay them minimum wage) or as day laborers.  On Friday, when they get paid, they go to Western Union and send the vast majority of their pay back home. 

Now I will grant you that there are exceptions, business owners and salaried workers, but despite what the liberals say, I don't think this is the majority.

Name:	MrHodja -	Reply
Subject:	taxes
Date:	2/7/2017 4:52:39 PM

For business owners, especially those who deal in cash, under-the-table use of illegals is a win-win if they are willing to take a chance on getting caught.  They take in cash for goods and/or services and pay cash for the labor, as you say often below minimum wage, and with huge tax avoidance benefits.  They don't claim the incoming cash as income, avoiding income taxes, and they don't pay the employer's half of Social Security.  And they don't have to pay for benefits.  The little inconvenient truth is that it is all illegal.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	taxes
Date:	2/7/2017 5:30:25 PM (updated 2/7/2017 5:32:22 PM)

And by just hitting property owners they would not be paying the fair share.  I am also paying that lovely regressive tax bill - what I buy I pay taxes on.

Yup and my son was cutting grass at 10 and was reporting the income and received a 1099-misc from all the neighbors he cut grass for and for dog sitting at his grandmothers.  

And before some wise ass on here wants to point out my son was dodging taxes - under $500 you do not have to report, claim or anything.  

I agree with Wix - if you were my physican i would need to have my head examined.

Name:	RHH -	Reply
Subject:	taxes
Date:	2/7/2017 11:11:39 PM

It is fairly clear from your incoherent rants that you do need to have your head examined!

Name:	Lifer -	Reply
Subject:	Welcome back archie
Date:	2/8/2017 6:31:11 AM

I've kinda been on the fence about you and the Archie thing but this post just pushed me right off onto the you are Archie side. Your dumb, arrogant, sparky attitude can't hide behind a new moniker.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	taxes
Date:	2/8/2017 8:47:51 AM

And from your consescending judgemental arrogorance you should be at berkeley burning down stuff and pepper spraying young ladies in the face point blank.  

Anyone who can say that single payer is the best solution is an idiot, anyone who wants to level the playing field by raising taxes on one class but not another is an idiot.  The fact that you want to refer to it as incoherent proves you are not a physician and probably no more then a 4th grade education like GFY.

Here I will use little words just for you.

tax on only one type of people is bad

tax on everyone equally is good

anything else is descrimination - sorry big word here.

Back in my day we had a word for people like you - blivit - 10 pounds of crap in a 5 pound sack.

Name:	RHH -	Reply
Subject:	taxes
Date:	2/8/2017 12:34:12 PM

Phil, you offer simple solutions for simple minds. I understand that's the way you and your fellow Trumpanzees would like to see the issues. If someone, such as myself , who has been a medical practioner for years, is telling you that we will eventually have a single payer system, it would be a good idea for you to give it some thought. 

No no one enjoys paying property tax. My point is that if states are going to have a property tax, it would seem out of balance for Alabama property taxes to be very small compared to Other Southeastern states. This disproportionately rewards large out of state land owners who own forest land and don't put significant taxes into State funds.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	taxes
Date:	2/8/2017 2:43:06 PM (updated 2/8/2017 3:03:56 PM)

I offer simple solutions so you and  gfy can understand it.

If someone, such as myself , who has been a medical practioner for years, is telling you that we will eventually have a single payer system

If someone, such as myself, who has been a medical patient for years, is telling you that the government will screw up a wet dream - you might want to look into it, and I will take the words of someone who has been at "practicing" medicine more then a few years, maybe the family physican who has been at it for 50+.

"as a medical practioner"( your spelling not mine ) practitioner one you should know how to spell it, or get a refund on your medical degree.  I have looked at it, and I know many doctors who have looked at it and said it will limit healthcare and increase corruption, hell when was the last time you saw government get involved and ANYTHING run better?  You might want to have a look at capitalism vs socialism - there is a reason we are different form the rest of the world.

The point is that those out of state land owners who own forest land still pay taxes on that land, just like I do for my properties, and just like you do unless you rent which some portion of property tax will be built into your rent. That tax is based on the county and states assessment of how much it is worth.  Now if that property is not a primary residence, which more then likely vast tracks of forest land would fall into the catagory, much like one of my lake properties that currently does not have a house on it, I get to pay much more since the county has decided that wow, no one is paying sales tax from that location, so lets have them pay 3-4 times as much for their taxes.

I hear the same excuse from stupid people about the lottery - it would effect the poor disproportionately - well no, it only affects those willing to put money in regardless of race, religion, age or economic status.  If I want to put $20 into a lottery no it may not be the same in terms of the percent of my income as a disabled homeless vet, but I chose to put it there.  If I or someone else playing the lottery have to choose between lottery and groceries I am going to put food on the table for my family, but if someone on a fixed income decides to blow his paycheck, oh well sucks to be him.  Same as a idiot I once knew who bet a monthly paycheck on a Alabama Auburn game - whoopsie you get to eat PB&J for a while, but not my damn problem and should not cause me to have to pay more for my groceries.

My point is that asshats like yourself want to raise my taxes and not the taxes of everyone else who should have some skin in the game, same with income tax - some illegals and other people being paid under the table dont have to pay into the system.  The same for people who like to ride the bicycles down the middle of the highway blocking cars.  We pay fuel tax, we pay tax for our tags, we have to have insurance on our vehicles,  have to renew drivers licenses and abide the rules of the road.  Someone can hop on their schwinn from the nearest K-Mart and play lets spread out and block traffic, because we have a "right" but in the words of Obama they didnt build that, they have no skin in the game.  They need to get insurance and have a license and should be charged a per mile fee since they do not get to pay the fuel taxes that are supposed to go to road maintenance and I would put electric cars in the same catagory, pay your fees or piss off.

Trumpanzee - omg that is just so witty, I should get a toupee and go cling to my guns and bible in a deplorable way.  

Name:	RHH -	Reply
Subject:	taxes
Date:	2/8/2017 3:40:02 PM

You really are an angry man Philsie! 

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	taxes
Date:	2/8/2017 4:12:10 PM (updated 2/8/2017 4:14:32 PM)

Nope just want dumbasses to pay their share.

Maybe we can institute a higher professional fee on medical providers to fix the gap in the budget, apparently doctors are getting huge payments back from insurance companies and we need to redistribute that income back around to the poor, dont see doctors driving 20 year old cars and can apparently afford to own lake property, you need to check your white privilage.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Single Payer for Phillsieeeeee
Date:	2/8/2017 5:40:53 PM

What is wrong with Medicare a single payer plan?

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Single Payer for Phillsieeeeee
Date:	2/8/2017 5:51:50 PM (updated 2/8/2017 5:58:08 PM)

http://dailysignal.com/2016/08/01/medicares-next-50-years-fix-the-problems-and-improve-the-program/

Medicare is big, costly, and complex. Its major problems have been persistent: burdensome and sluggish bureaucracy, big gaps in coverage, problems securing quality care, inefficient pricing of medical services, absurd restrictions on the personal freedom of patients, subversion of the professional independence of doctors, and disgraceful levels of waste, fraud, and abuse amounting to tens of billions of dollars annually.

Largely because of the miracles of modern medicine, seniors also are living much longer than they did in 1965, when Medicare was created. While this is indisputably great news, it also means that today’s taxpayers—who finance nearly all of Medicare’s benefits for today’s retirees—are going to be carrying an even bigger burden tomorrow.

How heavy? Consider the Medicare Trustees’ “medium range” estimates for the short term. In 2015, Medicare spent $648 billion. But by 2025, that spending will jump to almost $1.3 trillion.

America, with an annual economic growth rate of 2 percent, is not going to “grow” out of its entitlement crisis. Over the next 10 years, Medicare spending will outpace the growth in the general economy (as measured by gross domestic product, or GDP) and the federal budget. It also will surpass the growth of America’s total health spending or spending on private health insurance.

I know there are some big words in there so dont hurt yourself

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Single Payer for Phillsieeeeee
Date:	2/8/2017 6:04:20 PM

http://www.nationalaffairs.com/publications/detail/saving-medicare-from-itself

At the heart of America's fiscal crisis is the looming collapse of our entitlement system. And the primary cause of that looming collapse is the explosion of costs in Medicare, the federal program that provides health insurance to every American over 65. Without major reforms of the program, there is simply no way for us to address the federal deficit, contain the national debt, or save Medicare itself from collapse.

Providing an increasingly expensive service to a rapidly growing population while drawing on a fast-declining pool of taxpayers is, of course, a recipe for fiscal doom.The Congressional Budget Office now projects that the Medicare program will be effectively bankrupt in 2021, and its continuing growth will increasingly burden the federal budget, sinking the nation deeper into debt. The program's trustees report that its unfunded long-term liability — the gap between the benefits that will need to be paid out and the revenues available to pay for them over the coming decades — is more than $30 trillion.

It is simply not possible to address this problem only by increasing the taxes that fund Medicare. Medicare spending is growing at a much faster rate than the economy (and therefore faster than the tax base)

Another solution must be found, and soon. If Washington fixes Medicare only after a debt-driven economic disruption, the likely outcome will involve draconian across-the-board cuts in benefits to retirees, painful rationing of medical services, and restricted access to doctors and hospitals. In such a scenario, the wealthy will be affected the least, as they will be the ones most able to purchase supplemental insurance to address their needs. It will be the poorest, and the sickest, of Medicare's enrollees who will get left behind.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Single Payer for Phillsieeeeee
Date:	2/8/2017 6:14:58 PM

http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottatlas/2012/12/18/lets-be-honest-medicare-is-insolvent-and-doctors-soon-wont-accept-it/#398f22f946f5

Pretending that Medicare is financially solvent while ignoring the facts about the declining acceptance of Medicare and the future of health care access for seniors under the ACA is worse than misguided policy, it is outright dishonesty. Instead of fixating on ideological differences, the first step is to agree about the urgency of the situation, so that we can keep Medicare for the long term in a form consistent with America’s core.

Medicare is spiraling into bankruptcy, owing to both the demographics of America and the realities about health care

That outlook does not even consider the bigger picture over the next decades coming as a consequence of the fantastic advances in modern medicine. As the newest “Global Burden of Disease” report in the Lancet just acknowledged, with increasing longevity come two very expensive consequences: more people are surviving to die of chronic diseases found only in old age.  They require expensive drugs, diagnostics, and hospital care; and more people are living with disorders that don’t kill them, but that produce disability and reduced health.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Single Payer for Phillsieeeeee
Date:	2/8/2017 6:31:04 PM

I could continue but will instead go spend time with my family eating chips and soda.

  dumbass

Name:	lakngulf -	Reply
Subject:	Single Payer for Phillsieeeeee
Date:	2/8/2017 6:55:05 PM

Oh no, is it suppertime?  I was just catching up!

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Single Payer for Phillsieeeeee
Date:	2/8/2017 9:53:27 PM

Ask your parents what they would do without Medicare. It has done more to meet the medical needs of seniors. The program has low adm costs and provides Seniors the opportunity to select their own docs. It dies have fraud issues but so does auto and homeowners insurance.

You better hope there a single payer when you reach that age. There are limited supplemental policies that fill in the gaps. The age needs to be raised to 68 to solve some of the financial issues. Seniors with Medicare are not dying in the streets. It is easy to be negative about evrything until you need it. I have never met a deplorable who turned down Medicare cause it is single payer.

Name:	Buteye -	Reply
Subject:	Single Payer for Phillsieeeeee
Date:	2/9/2017 12:13:51 AM

You mention the opportunity to choose your own doctors. That is not exactly true as more and more doctors are refusing to accept Medicare. Statistics for 2016 indicate that one in five doctors are not accepting Medicare patients. I recently had my six month visit to my dermatologist and had a small place on my forehead which required surgery. She does not do surgery, but one of the doctors she uses for referals accepted Medicare and all is well.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	taxes
Date:	2/9/2017 8:41:00 AM (updated 2/9/2017 9:04:09 AM)

You like to point out that the sales tax is regressive.

Over the last week I purchased groceries, gas, looked at a car to purchase, paid insurance, and looked at my property tax bill for filing with the IRS - none of which were based on my income, all were set in some fashion based on market price of the goods or property.  

When I passed the gas station it did not state .0000001% of my adjusted gross income per gallon.

When I looked ay my property tax it was based on the value of the property, not my income.

So you are for higher property taxes vs sales tax - so low income family who are struggling will have to pay the same mil tax increase as you or have the state kick them out of their home, yup sounds fair and regressive.  As a doctor you should not be making more then minimum wage and should be forced to pay more mil's then someone making under 100K.  So what if you have student loans to repay, thats not the tax assessors issue.  I always hear about doctors whining about the cost of medical school, you chose it, you make more, you should have to pay a much higher rate based on your income, just because you have bills to pay you should not be allowed to bill more then minumum wage for the 5 minutes you see a patient just because it costs you more, damn how unfair of you to set a fixed cost not based on what someone can afford.  

I see and hear about families with life savings wiped out by medical bills - how heartless of your industry.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Single Payer for Phillsieeeeee
Date:	2/9/2017 8:55:00 AM (updated 2/9/2017 9:15:09 AM)

You asked what was wrong with it - not if it has done some good.

Yes it helps people, but as a government program it is morally and financially bankrupt and can not last the way it is.  

My parents had BCBS before they were forced into medicare, not by choice - I can promise you costs to them went up, service went down, hassles went up.  Parents kept BCBS as a secondary to cover the costs that medicare did not, and had to present two insurance every where they went.  

Why would I need single payer if medicare should be the end all super dooper fix all of medicine for when I reach that age?  Why should it be rasied to 68?  Do you hate people 65-67?  Are they less deserving of super medical insurance that they have been promised all their working lives?  Does their property taxes need to be adjusted to reflect their income?  Do people who make under 50K a year deserve to not pay taxes on their McMansions that Clinton enabled them to get approved for loans on and have reposessed when they can not pay thus causing the economic downturn that you so hatefully place on Bush 41's doorstep?

You are a bigot and an ageist.  You need to quit hating on the poor and old people.  

Feel the Burn Sanders is still out trying to sell "Medicare for all" , sorry I like my insurance, my doctor and my plan which I can keep till I am forced into medicare but since by then it will be for those over 90 I may not have to worry about it.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Single Payer for Phillsieeeeee
Date:	2/9/2017 9:11:44 AM

http://www.medicareinsuranceprofessionals.com/medicare-can-i-continue-to-see-my-own-doctor/

A popular and understandable question is “Can I continue seeing my current doctor?” If this is a question that you have pondered, then you need to know which plans will allow you to do so.

The Medicare Advantage plan (Part C) is a plan that can be obtained by a private insurance company and is approved by Medicare.  Some of you will also be able to choose a “Cost” plan, depending on where you live.

Medicare Select plans are somewhat different.  For planned hospital stays, a network hospital is required but you are free to use your own doctor. 

Medicare Advantage plans and Cost plans both have networks.  It is very important that you check to ensure your doctor is a part of the network before you join.  Some plans may even ask you to select a primary care physician.  

https://www.hhs.gov/answers/medicare-and-medicaid/where-can-i-find-a-doctor-that-accepts-medicare-medicaid/index.html

To find a doctor that accepts Medicare payments, you may want to visit the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services' Physician Compare.

GFY fake news, alternative facts, and just straight up lies.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Single Payer for Phillsieeeeee
Date:	2/9/2017 9:19:37 AM

GFY - it is a government program of course  "It dies have fraud issues ".  you need to slow down and breath before you "dies of fraud issues"

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	Single Payer for Phillsieeeeee
Date:	2/9/2017 12:25:23 PM

You need to read what you post. You like to Google a subject and the try to appear intelligent by multiple posts without reading them. The Daily Signal which you posted discussed some changes to strengthen the program. Why would you post the age change when you disagree with it?

"Why should it be rasied to 68?  Do you hate people 65-67?"

From YOUR post...."Moffit also says that Congress needs to reduce further the taxpayers’ subsidies to the wealthiest retirees and gradually raise the normal age of Medicare eligibility from 65 to 68, tracking changes in older Americans’ longer life expectancy and capacity to stay active in the workplace. "

You also know very little about Medicare. Medicare C is called Medicare Advantage and is quite different than Original Medicare (Parts A&B). In exchange for either lower premium and/or broader benefits one gives up doctor and hospital choice and are in a network.

As to having to carry 2 insurance cards, if you have a supplement plan Medicare will forward a copy of their payment to the supplement carrier. The insured just has to show the cards at the docs office. The supplement plan pays the coinsurance and will only pay if Medicare approved the charge. I am sure your parents did not find this to be a burden. You only have to show it on your initial visit.

Finally, the cost to your parents under Medicare was far less as they grew older than if they still had their BC/BS. Medicare rates do NOT increase as you get older. They change only based on premium and claim projections. Without Medicare, many seniors could not qualify for insurance as Medicare provides coverage for pre exiting conditions.

Now go Google and post another 4 to 5 posts to defend your indefensible position.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	taxes
Date:	2/9/2017 12:34:41 PM

You need to quit while you think in your mind that you are ahead. The more you post the less you make sense.

"I see and hear about families with life savings wiped out by medical bills - how heartless of your industry."

For all the negatives about Obamacare.....that was the reason for Obamacare. Your solution is to blame the medical profession. As Trump said during the campaign his will be better and cheaper. Deplorables like you fell for it. I fail to understand if carriers have been dropping out becasue they are losing money how Trump can improve the plan and cut the cost.

You have the answer to everything else so maybe you can explain how the new plan will work.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Single Payer for Phillsieeeeee
Date:	2/9/2017 1:59:48 PM (updated 2/9/2017 2:20:49 PM)

yup i did read all of it and it proved my point that it has many problems, not that there was a discussion on does it help people.  

So sorry that you asked the question what is wrong with single payer medicare and did not specify A, B or C.  

You said medicare you can go to whatever doctor you want not  Medicare ABCDEFGLBTQ

" In exchange for either lower premium and/or broader benefits one gives up doctor and hospital choice and are in a network"

So you can give up choice for lower costs, or you can go single payer and watch the deficit soar.

Dont need to google anymore to prove you are a dumbass.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	taxes
Date:	2/9/2017 2:15:13 PM (updated 2/9/2017 2:56:01 PM)

Dear GFY - 

Obamacare was created to stop people from being bankrupted by the medical industry?  Hell I thought it was created in the dead of night by pass it to see what is in it based on lies of keep your insurance and doctor, also causing many to lose insurance that they already had that worked just fine for them.

Ok so that the morons in the group can keep up.  

RHH wanted to piss and moan about a regressive tax and that higher property tax would be just great.  I was pointing out that they(the medical industry) do not have a sliding scale based on income when you go to the doctor.  They have a set fee.  This would be the same as a regressive tax as it hits the poor more then billionaires in terms of the percentage of their income.  So unless he is writing off all the poor people that comes into his practice, he is hypocriical.

I was not blaming the medical profession or Obamacare for squat - I was pointing out that billing practices are taking advantage of the poor in the same way that the Alabama sales tax is "regressive"

Sorry it was Obama who said that we would all get $2500 refunds and could keep our doctor but dumbasses like yourself applauded when Pelosi said pass it to see what is in it.   If Obamacare is so great why are carriers dropping out and losing money, pretty sure its not cause Trump got elected, that was happening before the election.  That is trumps fault now?  Nope not his fault but he is going to have to fix the disaster that your king created.  So we all voted for Trump because we fell for his lies about fixing or replacing Obamacare?  Nope - i voted for a wall that has been promised since Regan, and more importantly I voted against Hillary because she wants to keep her emails over at Weiners house or in the bathroom.

I am not an expert in insurance, just as you are not an expert at anything other then licking the boots of democrat liberal douchebags.  

I can tell you that some simple regulations can work better then putting the government in charge 100%- because with it comes fraud much worse then the private sector.  When the private sector breaks rules the government is quick to step in with reguations, fines, jail time etc.  When the government breaks regulations or lies to the american people where are the punishments?  They are few and far between and not quick to be handed out.

Now go breath into your bag before you fall down and break you hip and have to break out that medicare card.  I do feel sorry for those in your life as your illogical rantings can only appeal to those with the mental disorder liberalism.

I am tickled that you love socialism you ol nazi, I personally will stand with capitalism.

 National Socialist. The word "Nazi" is an abbreviation for the word "Nationalsozialist". The full name of the political party was the "Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei" - the National Socialist German Worker's Party.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	Single Payer for Phillsieeeeee
Date:	2/9/2017 2:40:53 PM

Name:   GoneFishin  -  Subject:   Single Payer for Phillsieeeeee Date:   2/9/2017 12:25:23 PM

You need to read what you post. You like to Google a subject and the try to appear intelligent by multiple posts without reading them. The Daily Signal which you posted discussed some changes to strengthen the program. Why would you post the age change when you disagree with it?

Again for the slow in the room - you asked "What is wrong with Medicare a single payer plan?"

because I was pointing out that there is problems with it that need to be "fixed", and one of those solutions is to cut off needy people who are elderly just because they are not old enough.

"Why should it be rasied to 68?  Do you hate people 65-67?"

From YOUR post...."Moffit also says that Congress needs to reduce further the taxpayers’ subsidies to the wealthiest retirees and gradually raise the normal age of Medicare eligibility from 65 to 68, tracking changes in older Americans’ longer life expectancy and capacity to stay active in the workplace. "

wow - so someone else indcated there is problems with medicare and one way is to let 65-68 year olds die in the street till they get old enough - because as you put it "people on medicare are not dying in the streets"

You also know very little about Medicare. Medicare C is called Medicare Advantage and is quite different than Original Medicare (Parts A&B). In exchange for either lower premium and/or broader benefits one gives up doctor and hospital choice and are in a network.

As to having to carry 2 insurance cards, if you have a supplement plan Medicare will forward a copy of their payment to the supplement carrier. The insured just has to show the cards at the docs office. The supplement plan pays the coinsurance and will only pay if Medicare approved the charge. I am sure your parents did not find this to be a burden. You only have to show it on your initial visit.

Which as I indicated they showed where ever they had to go, now why did they not just drop BCBS and just use medicare,  If medicare is so good why would supplemenatl insurance be necessary?

Finally, the cost to your parents under Medicare was far less as they grew older than if they still had their BC/BS. Medicare rates do NOT increase as you get older. They change only based on premium and claim projections. Without Medicare, many seniors could not qualify for insurance as Medicare provides coverage for pre exiting conditions.

"Medicare rates do not increase based on age, but on premuim and claim projections."  But they still go up and when you are already on fixed income, mawmaw is just going to have to choose to eat or if she wants her medication this month.

Now go Google and post another 4 to 5 posts to defend your indefensible position.

no google, defended.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	taxes
Date:	2/9/2017 3:08:05 PM

You make no sense. No one can follow your tirade. Organize your thoughts and repost. When you are in a failure mode you like to attack the messenger. Don't waste your time as I have over 5300 posts and can assure you that you are just an amateur with your personal attacks.

I need some red to appear important. Now, I am like you...important in my own mind. I maybe a doucebag according to you but you are just a Logan Martin Sweety.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	taxes
Date:	2/9/2017 3:19:02 PM (updated 2/9/2017 3:57:45 PM)

awwwww so now since you are not winning you want to ramble on and claim you are great by your number of posts.  Sorry just because you have been posting crap for years does not make you special.

I posted in red so that you would not need your bifocals to locate my comments in your quoted text.

awwwww he called me a sweety - guess he is homophobic too.  

I didnt say you were a douchebag I said "licking the boots of democrat liberal douchebags.  "

If we want to go by ratings I like to go by the Karma and ignores.  More people like me, dislike you, or probably just dislike me less then you.  So far with all my "tirades and being shrill" I have yet to piss anyone off enought to ignore me.  LOL

Best part is I get to make you waste your time of day by coming to see what nonsense I post next, I got lots of free time while dispatching people around and free WIFI, its the best of all worlds, just love to watch your little liberal head go BOOM!

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	taxes
Date:	2/9/2017 3:57:00 PM

I am proud of my rating. I find it fasinating that because we may disagree you dislike me. That is 8th grade chit but it must be great to train your kids to hate anyone they disagree with. I love you cause you are the famous sweety from Logan Martin.

I AM LIKE YOU.....SO IMPORTANT. NOW, TELL ME MORE ABOUT HOW BAD I AM AND BUILD UP MY DAMAGED EGO.....

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	taxes
Date:	2/9/2017 4:11:21 PM

I dislike you because you are a partisian idiot, which has nothing to do if I like you are not.  I do not know you other then your posts - and can care less to know you because you are crazy.  I am glad you train your kids to be biased and dishonest with anything that has an R after their name.  

love me or hate me I can care less and your names just proves that you are a infintiile old man.

I am not important, my life is but a fart in the wind of history.  I can care less about your ego or how bad you think you are.  But what I do not allow to pass is your BS.

If you want to post something about someone and it is legit and makes sense go for it, when you make sense I will agree with your position I will pat you on your back and stroke your little ego for you, when you want to post crap about bush wars and wars for oil under bush while talking about how the government under a democrat is perfect, but them damn republicans just keep it in the ditch, sorry welcome to the land of cannon fodder.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	taxes
Date:	2/9/2017 4:24:03 PM

"I dislike you because you are a partisian idiot"  It is obvious you never served in the military.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	taxes
Date:	2/9/2017 4:28:54 PM (updated 2/9/2017 4:40:07 PM)

its obvious you know nothing about me or any service.  I have never attempted to pass myself off as a member of the armed services.  

Does it make you better then me since you apparently once did something with the coast guard or once ran and won a primary as a republican somewhere up north?  Nope, no more then public office, military service or garbage man makes someone better or worse, it is the content of their character.

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	taxes
Date:	2/9/2017 5:34:52 PM

Your posts give you away. I have concluded that only an idiot would continue this senseless thread.

Name:	MrHodja -	Reply
Subject:	taxes
Date:	2/9/2017 7:51:03 PM

Words of a true loser.

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	taxes
Date:	2/10/2017 9:07:02 AM

yup and there you are !!!!! LOL

Name:	phil -	Reply
Subject:	approved talking points
Date:	3/1/2017 3:55:29 PM

Looks like the only thing really missing is #4, unfornuatly they left off the media ( our job is to control exactly what people think )

Just need to grab my gun and something to cling to while I run for the hills.  LOL.