Name:	MAJ USA RET -	Reply
Subject:	It DOES NOT say "the president" shall have
Date:	11/24/2014 9:01:14 AM

From Article.I., Section 8 of The Constitution: “The Congress shall have Power To … establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization…”

Name:	GoneFishin -	Reply
Subject:	It DOES NOT say "the president" shall have
Date:	11/24/2014 3:13:00 PM

"Two of the last three Republican presidents — Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush — did the same thing in extending amnesty to family members who were not covered by the last major overhaul of immigration law in 1986."

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/reagan-and-bush-made-immigration-executive-orders-2014-11#ixzz3K1CRDndD

Name:	MAJ USA RET -	Reply
Subject:	Good point GF -- Let's look closer
Date:	11/24/2014 5:01:05 PM (updated 11/24/2014 5:31:06 PM)

In that case, GF… should such executive orders of Presidents Reagan and G. W. Bush… altering or establishing an uniform Rule of Naturalization… be contested in suit before the Supreme Court… the court should strike down such executive orders as unconstitutional.* Though such not being as heinous as the executive orders of the current Pretender… in contradiction of his prior discourse(s) on the illegality and imperial impropriety of such an executive order. Obamnesty flies in the face of national sentiment to the contrary… and discounts the painstaking efforts of those who enter(ed) legally.  The Pretender babbles in cherry-picked bible verse... which he unequally and blithely applies to illegal immigrants while ignoring the plight of jobless, indigent, and impoverished legitimate citizens of our own nation.

So he spouts imperious, empty, dishonest, and pedantic rhetoric… such having no intellectual bearing on his inexcusable action. 

After all, the Pretender is really… only making poor excuses. 

- - LMF Curmudgeon

* And I recommend that such executive orders be evaluated for their effectiveness and efficacy. Obamnesty damages the States... some of them significantly.  It is this damage which gives them status to sue.  I hope they do!

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Actually not a god point
Date:	11/25/2014 7:24:08 AM

Reagan's EO was done to implement a law passed by Congress and there is no comparison in terms of scope.  Can't wait for the next GOP president to lower taxes by EO, end mandatory union dues, etc.  Then we shall see how the left likes an imperial president. And am also looking forward to the GOP led Senate using the nuclear option.  Then we shall see how the left likes the new rules of the Senate. Somehow on both counts they hypocrites will suddenly love the Constitution and the traditions of the Senate, call for working together and respecting the minority. 

Name:	MartiniMan -	Reply
Subject:	Yeah, Obola's lame excuse and reality
Date:	11/25/2014 10:07:24 AM

But Mommmmyyyyy, the others did it too!!  Waaahhh!!  Kind of sad watching the left using this excuse but the reality is something totally different isn't it?  From Pew.  I could dissect how each of these were totally different but a cursory examination can lead the intellectually honest there.  Like I said, looking forward to all the new EO's from the next GOP president.

EO's on immigration