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Name:   water_watcher - Email Member
Subject:   Porkulus II .... Pelosi is desparate to save seats
Date:   8/9/2010 10:23:00 PM


So she is trying to buy them by wasting more tax payer dollars and putting the country deeper in debt.

There will be a vote tomorrow on the second Stimulus bill.  
 
Porkulus II: States Held Hostage
Why is Congress demanding governors and mayors fire teachers, cops, and firefighters before cutting ridiculous spending like this:
$120,000,000 spent on state-run liquor stores - Washington State
$39,608,662 spent on neighborhood & recreational services - Newark, New Jersey
$7,000,000 spent on museums - Oakland, California
$1,607,367 spent on awards and prizes at county fairs - Illinois
$1,000,000 spent on mural art - Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
$750,000 spent on the opera house - Baltimore, Maryland
The Porkulus II:
Forces states to take bailout dollars, bypassing Governors who refuse the money, and forbidding them from making necessary budget cuts.
Gives teachers unions roughly $50 - $100 million through trickle-down.
Will increase the deficit by $12.6 billion, according to the Congressional Budget Office.
Will result in a permanent tax increase of $9.7 billion for U.S. multinational companies - increasing the cost of doing business and risking jobs during the recession. (Interestingly, the revenue from these same tax increases have already been spent...twice, in two other pieces of legislation!)
The fact is the federal government cannot afford to bailout states who refuse to cut back spending.  In case Nancy Pelosi forgot, the American people still fund the federal government. If states can't afford it, neither can the federal government.  Bailing out states and extending failed stimulus programs only perpetuates states' reliance on the federal government.



Name:   MAJ USA RET - Email Member
Subject:   Porkulus II .... Pelosi is desparate to save seats
Date:   8/10/2010 8:21:18 AM

The money comes from somewhere.  Fact is, it comes out of the economy.  If money is withdrawn from the economy, then employment suffers.  Folks who have money (e.g.savings for retirement, for a new car, rainy day fund, etc.) become more and more reluctant to spend. 

Nobody is this stupid Pelosi, Reid... Obama... they must be doing this on purpose.





Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Flaw in her thinking
Date:   8/10/2010 8:38:04 PM

What she misses is those people whose jobs are allegedly being saved would have blindly voted for Dems anyway.  What it will mean is more outrage by conservatives and more importantly independents that are sick of the fiscal madness in Washington.  How many votes will be driven to GOP candidates by her insane actions is anyone's guess but it sure as heck will be more than she buys from our new dependent class, teacher's unions and government employees. 



Name:   water_watcher - Email Member
Subject:   very valid point (nfm)
Date:   8/10/2010 9:00:24 PM





Name:   roswellric - Email Member
Subject:   I think...
Date:   8/10/2010 10:08:37 PM

she's going to lose her jet....



Name:   water_watcher - Email Member
Subject:   did anyone see ///
Date:   8/11/2010 8:39:22 AM

Obama had them fly him 6 miles in Marine One to a speech last week.   His limo would have gotten him there quicker.   Does he care about the deficit and wasting tax payer money?  





Name:   lotowner - Email Member
Subject:   Porkulus II .... Food Stamp Cuts
Date:   8/11/2010 12:31:32 PM


Democrats, Advocacy Groups Blast Cuts to Food Stamps to Fund $26B Aid Bill

Some Democrats are upset and advocacy groups are outraged over the raiding of the food-stamp cupboard to fund a state-aid bailout that some call a gift to teachers and government union workers.

House members convened Tuesday and passed the multibillion-dollar bailout bill for cash-strapped states that provides $10 billion to to rehire laid-off teachers or ensure that more teachers won't be let go before the new school year begins, keeping more than 160,000 teachers on the job, the Obama administration says.

But the bill also requires that $12 billion be stripped from the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, commonly known as food stamps, to help fund the new bill, prompting some Democrats to cringe at the notion of cutting back on one necessity to pay for another. The federal assistance program currently helps 41 million Americans.









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