| Name: |
jawjagal
- 
|
|
| Subject: |
Not a political statement but
|
|
Date:
|
10/31/2006 9:57:15 AM
|
let's say Al Gore was president.
Even though the Muslims do not like the western ways, would we be picked on as much if GORE was president?
Now, I don't mean Democrat/Republican. I am talking name recognition. Do you think the name BUSH carries a message to the world more than GORE? Or anyone else, for that matter. Is BUSH (#1 and #2) identified with something the world perceives that is/isn't there?
I read somewhere when #2 Bush became president that he knew about a plot where Saddam tried to "take out" his dad at some point where his wife Laura was in attendance. Is this revenge? Is this a "Bush" mentality? Is it personal?
That's what I am asking? Personal. Are his decisions involving family ties, business associations involvement, never having gone to war (I am not promoting Gore where he was a journalist? I don't remember...but he didn't see action either.) as his point of reference?
Sometimes I just see Bush's decisions as REACTIONS and not ACTION. And I question his patience and judgement. To me it's like he shoots from the hip.
I don't have any favorite running for president. So don't question my intentions. I am seeking information from you guys as to how perception is reality. (we know it's not, but to others', is it?)
|
| Name: |
PC Al
-
|
|
| Subject: |
I question it too
|
|
Date:
|
10/31/2006 11:22:55 AM
|
I question his patience and judgment too, as does 2/3 of this country. And because of his judgment, Democrats have a chance to retake the house in a week. They would not stand a chance if any other Republican were in charge. And that includes Bush One.
|
| Name: |
Harborcon
-
|
|
| Subject: |
Not a political statement but
|
|
Date:
|
10/31/2006 3:02:05 PM
|
Read the Woodward book, State of Denial. It really explains a whole lot about how we got to where we are in this war. How/why we invaded (with not a clue as to what we would do if the populace didn't just accept the victory as claimed). I'm finding it a bit of a tough go, mostly because I'm not familiar with all the "players," but if I can keep up, anyone can. Biggest surprise to me was that Colin Powell didn't voluntarily leave; he was invited to resign... Too bad; at least he knew what he was doing. Now how do we get out. I will be first in line on the 7th.
|
| Name: |
jawjagal
-
|
|
| Subject: |
Not a political statement but
|
|
Date:
|
10/31/2006 4:33:14 PM
|
I plan to.
Right after I read his colleague, Carl Bernstein's wife, Nora Ephron's new book.
How is that actually punctually written? I know I did not write it correctly.
|
| Name: |
Harborcon
-
|
|
| Subject: |
Not a political statement but
|
|
Date:
|
10/31/2006 4:52:49 PM
|
Finished that one (I hate my neck) right before I began the Woodward book. I love Nora Ephron. Never mind the punctuation - I got it.
|
| Name: |
longtimelaker
-
|
|
| Subject: |
Not a political statement but
|
|
Date:
|
10/31/2006 9:27:25 PM
|
If I recall correctly, Gore was the one on the senate committe years ago that interviewed Oliver North. Oliver North recommended at that time that we do away with Ousama Bin Laden. Gore laughed and said he could not even pronounce the name, so why should we be concerned with this individual.
It makes me shutter to think what would be happening if that stuffed shirt were in the White House.
|
| Name: |
jawjagal
-
|
|
| Subject: |
Not a political statement but
|
|
Date:
|
10/31/2006 9:32:59 PM
|
Yeah, well, not Gore then. Somebody else...anybody else, but the BUSH name is what I am asking about. I think his reputation preceeded him and then they made it MORE of a reason to come get us. Did he cause MORE of an unpleasant feeling around the world as a Bush?
Sure,they are going to hate any President in a free-enterprise country. But, does the name BUSH and what it connotes make it worse?
|
| Name: |
Osms
-
|
|
| Subject: |
After what John K. Heinz...
|
|
Date:
|
10/31/2006 9:47:31 PM
|
said today we would probably be at war with the whole rest of the world if he had been elected. Look at the alternative Gore followed by Kerry--Bush has a comforting ring to it. Listen, having the Middle East hate the name Bush is comforting in itself. These people don't have to like us -- THEY HAVE TO RESPECT US -- enough to leave us along.
|
| Name: |
TUB
-
|
|
| Subject: |
Not a political statement but
|
|
Date:
|
10/31/2006 9:51:26 PM
|
Gore asked Oliver North who he thought was the biggest threat against the U.S..North replied Bin Laden,yourself,Palosi,Kerry,Hilliary.I'm sorry he did'nt say all of that then,but he would today.
|
| Name: |
Clearwater Marine
-
|
|
| Subject: |
Not a political statement but
|
|
Date:
|
10/31/2006 9:56:23 PM
|
they dont like the name bush because it is directly related to the name reagan. point blank ,for some reason, nobody seems to like someone who does exactly what they say they are going to do. reagan did it and nobody cared because the economy was booming and russia was falling. bush had to deal with recession, 9/11 and a media that is still out to get him. the terroists love the media because the media is blasting the only politician there is that is going after the terrorists where ever they are,be it bagdad or bakersfield. listen only to the media and you are doing yourself a great injustice. ok i'm ready for the slams........
|
| Name: |
TUB
-
|
|
| Subject: |
Not a political statement but
|
|
Date:
|
10/31/2006 10:04:07 PM
|
Clearwater is right. Stop drinking the Kool aid!
|
| Name: |
PC Al
-
|
|
| Subject: |
Bush reputation diminished
|
|
Date:
|
10/31/2006 10:20:28 PM
|
Jaw, I can’t say that you are wrong, can’t say you are right. I personally liked the old man. I know Sadam had him on his hit list, but the rest of the world was on our side. I was never prouder to be an American than the night we watched the invasion to drive Big Daddy out of Kuwait. Plus he had enough sense to have a large coalition to help us in that effort. We had the world on our side and you felt like sticking your chest out and crowing that we did it the right way. The American way. Now with this goofuss we have now, the Bush name is not only hated throughout the world, but many of the Republicans running for re-election are trying to distance themselves from him. This country has never been so divided and this forum is a perfect example. So, in my mind, W himself is to blame for the perception of the Bush name. And after your post, to compare W with Reagan, I don’t think so. Reagan stood up to powerful nations and backed them down. Bush invaded a country the Alabama National Guard could take. Reagan would have never let both Iran and North Korea call his bluff. Seems like both of those countries have no fear of the Bush name.
|
| Name: |
Osms
-
|
|
| Subject: |
Maybe you could have..
|
|
Date:
|
10/31/2006 10:30:58 PM
|
said that Iran and North Korea have no fear of the American resolve. We are a 90 day society.
|
| Name: |
jawjagal
-
|
|
| Subject: |
another view
|
|
Date:
|
11/1/2006 9:07:09 AM
|
Thanks for the insight about "doesn't have to be liked but respected" on the world stage. Gives me something more to ponder.
|
| Name: |
Council Roc Doc
-
|
|
| Subject: |
Bush reputation diminished
|
|
Date:
|
11/1/2006 9:52:21 AM
|
Let's be accurate PC. North Korea has just agreed to six party talks and to give up its nuclear ambitions for concessions. Iran only has to look to its west before getting too ambitious with nuclear plans. Hold judgement until you get the facts right.
|
| Name: |
PC Al
-
|
|
| Subject: |
Bush reputation diminished
|
|
Date:
|
11/1/2006 11:04:32 AM
|
You may be right, but the bottom line is: Bush made threats and they have ignored him. This post had to do with comparing Bush with Reagan and I don't think they would have ignored Reagan. Thanks for being civil with your reply though. I expected much worst.
|
| Name: |
Council Roc Doc
-
|
|
| Subject: |
Bush reputation diminished
|
|
Date:
|
11/1/2006 12:10:12 PM
|
If we only had listened to Reagan and gone forth with the Strategic Defense Initiative, we would have a shield in place or well on the way toward it. Then, overhaul our border and port security to lessen the risk of dirty bombs. Should have long ago put billions into the development of alternate energy sources so that the mid east could be ignored for the cesspool that it is. Bottom line for me is that current politics has discouraged our brightest and best from careers in public service. I long for the days of visionarys like Reagan........
|
| Name: |
Osms
-
|
|
| Subject: |
Bush reputation diminished
|
|
Date:
|
11/1/2006 2:07:32 PM
|
Unfortunately, SDI won't intercept those Mexican trucks driving the bombs into the hearts of our cities --with the Feds approval.
|
| Name: |
PC Al
-
|
|
| Subject: |
Bush reputation diminished
|
|
Date:
|
11/1/2006 3:29:03 PM
|
Are the Mexican truck drivers being trained in Iraq?
|
| Name: |
Osms
-
|
|
| Subject: |
Bush reputation diminished
|
|
Date:
|
11/1/2006 5:27:52 PM
|
Don't need to -- can you tell the difference in a Mexican and an Iranian or any other Arab in the cab of a truck at 70 MPH.
|
| Name: |
Clearwater Marine
-
|
|
| Subject: |
Bush reputation diminished
|
|
Date:
|
11/1/2006 11:29:06 PM
|
after next tuesday, you wont hear near as much about iraq in the news because the election will be over. the media will go back to reporting the news for about a year, then will turn back to iraq. strangely, no one seems to notice these patterns. have you watched cnn headline news lateley? 2 mins. of news then hollywood now for an hour. Its b.s.cnn its self only devotes 9 hours a day to the news. hello, there are 24 hours in a day, that leaves them 15 hours a day to slam any republican that dares to hold an office....cbs, nbc, not too different. let the President that was re-elected continue to do his job, support your country, your troops , and your president and defeat these third world idiots, then elect a new president in 2 years. this election wont effect bush as he cant run again anyhow.
|
|
New Post
Search
Great Salt Lake Topics Forum
Reply
»
Utah Lakes
»
Great Salt Lake
Login
|
Home
