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TotheLake
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Low flying airplanes @ lake
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7/21/2008 11:04:24 PM
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Today we were at the lake and had some friends up. A huge airplane that looked like a military or former military airplane flew over us and BARELY missed the tops of pine trees and roofs of houses. He was so low that he made waves in the water and it was really scary. It happened twice.
If we wanted to complain, who would we complain too? I know we'll have to get pictures to prove probably. We are directly across the lake from Veazy's Marina at Willow Point. I'm not sure if the plane was taking off and landing at Willow Point or what.
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Lakeman
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Low flying airplanes @ lake
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7/21/2008 11:18:42 PM
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F.A.A.
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alabamageologist
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Low flying airplanes @ lake
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7/22/2008 12:13:43 AM
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Back in the mid 1990s, nephew and I were swimming at beach at cabin. What appeared to be a fighter jet spiraled down and nearly clipped the pine tops where we were swimming. I was amazed; my nephew (he was 7 ot 8 yo) ran for cover. Would have kicked the pilot's place where he poops if I could have found him. He was moving very fast and I truly believe he was trying to scare us. SOB.
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Fester
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Low flying airplanes @ lake
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7/22/2008 6:52:13 AM
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Did it have 4 prop engines or was it a jet? If it had propellers on it, and it was a large brd flying low, it was a C130. Their job is to fly low and terrain hug to get to their LZ to drop off troops or equipment. Lake Martin has been in their training area for years. And it's probably an Air Guard unit from Montgomery or somewhere close. If you see the bird again check the tail for markings and for a unit ID. It's always right below the tail stripe/flash. Then you can do a google search for the unit.
Even if you do find out what unit it is there's isn't anything you can really do. I live in the supersonic test range for the east coast. When they test the F15's after overhaul they have to go supersonic. So I live with daily sonic booms. I make sure everything on my walls is secure all the time. Nothing like cleaning up after something falls and breaks. To me it's the sound of freedom and just a small price to pay to know those guys are out there defending all of us here at home by making sure the weapon system works like it's supposed to.
Aim High...US Air Force!!
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| Name: |
TotheLake
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Low flying airplanes @ lake
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7/22/2008 9:02:02 AM
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I don't know what it had. I was trying to watch it and 9 children in the lake. My husband looked at it (boataholic), maybe he'll respond. It was really loud.
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boataholic
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Low flying airplanes @ lake
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7/22/2008 9:19:45 AM
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It was props. Didn't bother me when he made his first pass flying straight and low over the lake. But the second time when he was turned side ways and struggled to barely clear the trees and the hillside, that was going too far. That kind of practice should not be over populated areas.
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green,ed
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Low flying airplanes @ lake
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7/22/2008 9:46:26 AM
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Disband the Air Force. You have disturbed the priveleged lake dwellers.
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Mulligan
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Low flying airplanes @ lake
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7/22/2008 10:40:32 AM
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There is a low level military training route that passes right over the penninsula between manoy and madwin creeks. We get several flights a week of T39s, and the occasional C130, A-10, and F-16; all flying south to north. Sometimes at altitude, but mostly approx 500 ft agl. Last month a lawndart rattled the windows with the burner lit, right over the house, 500 ft or so. Sounds like freedom to me. Altitude is dangerous, fly low and slow where it's safe.
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Tallyman
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Low flying airplanes @ lake
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7/22/2008 10:44:14 AM
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You must be a real wiener. And a fink to boot. Let the flyboys have a little fun. They aren't going to hurt you.
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TotheLake
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I'm not a fink or a bad person
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7/22/2008 11:10:04 AM
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I am a good person. I was at my home on the lake with 2 friends and 9 children and see a plane on its side barely making it above the trees and barely making it over my house. I had no idea who it was flying the plane, what kind of plane it was or anything. We are in the flight path for the Willow Point airport so we weren't sure if it was someone taking off and landing there that didn't know what they were doing.
I have no problems with our military and what they are doing for us. I just have a problem with a plane that low and 9 children ages 3-11 that were scared that the plane was going to hit them.
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Fester
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I'm not a fink or a bad person
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7/22/2008 11:20:25 AM
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The larger the plane, the slower it looks like it's going. A C5, when cruising or preping to land seems like it's motionless in the sky. But in reality it's well above stall speed. A C-130 doing low pros will look like it's just clearing the trees, when in reality it's 500+ agl and smoking along at 200 knots, if it passes directly over you or very close to you (1000 ft realitive). Looks ALOT closer than it is just due to the size of the aircraft. And just an FYI, the Lake area is a sparcely populated area. Just because you were there doesn't make the route densely populated. sorry....
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Fester
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I'm not a fink or a bad person
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7/22/2008 11:25:10 AM
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and one more thing....be glad they don't have B1's or F4's flying the route....jebus, those'll rattle your fillings at 500 agl with the burners lit....
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pford
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Low flying airplanes @ lake
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7/22/2008 11:39:30 AM
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Eye witness who knows aircraft verified it was a C-130. He did confirm two passes, very low.
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TNTitan
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Low flying airplanes @ lake
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7/22/2008 11:48:29 AM
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"To me it's the sound of freedom..." I like that attitude!
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boataholic
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Low flying airplanes @ lake
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7/22/2008 12:31:03 PM
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Exceptionally low. Too low to allow room for error.
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boataholic
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Low flying airplanes @ lake
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7/22/2008 12:34:32 PM
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No, you are the Tally-weiner here. If they need to practice that low, go somewhere with no houses. People die in training flight errors every year, no point in taking us with them when there are plenty of tree tops to skim in Alabama.
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lakngulf
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Low flying airplanes @ lake
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7/22/2008 12:56:39 PM
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My son and I hunt quite often in Bibb/Chilton county, just off Hwy 82.. We have shooting houses that probably stand out when viewed from airplane. My son is convinced that those big green airplanes use his shooting house as a GPS target to zoom during each training session. If you happen to doze off their test patterns will WAKE you up!
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HOT ROD
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Low flying airplanes @ lake
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7/22/2008 1:30:17 PM
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There are lakes that are not so close to an Air Force base; have you considered moving to one of those?
Lake Martin was, is, and probably always will be a place that sees frequent training runs and fly-overs, many at low levels. It seems like there used to be even more than there are now, and most everyone I know always thought it was cool and interesting.
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Tallyman
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Low flying airplanes @ lake
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7/22/2008 1:48:24 PM
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I feel real bad about calling Tothelake a wiener and a fink. I retract those remarks. However, it would take a lot of bad luck to have a C-130 fall on you.
If you like to worry, here is a short and incomplete list of things that might really hurt you:
Lightning
Bad drivers
Blood clots
Salmonella
Hyperinflation
Bank failures
Arabs with nuclear weapons
George Bush
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| Name: |
Summer Lover
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I'm not a fink or a bad person
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7/22/2008 1:53:56 PM
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Perhaps just a change in the way were were raised - when we were small we enjoyed watching the planes - the lower the better. OK, we still do - take the kids to the desert outside Tucson and experience the A-10s from Davis Monthan playing - I was always glad they were not after me. Excellent flyers, and practicing to protect our freedoms - if when they play over Sandy Creek, I feel obligated to lift a beer in their direction.
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Summer Lover
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Low flying airplanes @ lake
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7/22/2008 1:57:07 PM
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Hey Tally, might as well edit the last line to say "99% of our politicians" - the aviators can protect us from FOREIGN threats...
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Fester
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Low flying airplanes @ lake
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7/22/2008 3:12:13 PM
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as posted elsewhere you'd have to be exceptionally (un)lucky to have a 130 fall in your lap.....they fly very well and have a stellar safety record...
Short story.....I was in Saudi in 1992 at Taif air base and watched a C130 fly in on just one engine....Lighting strike took out the engine control electronics on the other 3 engines...the only one left was the outboard port engine and the plane was almost flying sideways....craziest landing I ever watched....that pilot did a hell of a job....
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Tallyman
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C-130s
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7/22/2008 4:00:48 PM
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I was on a C-130 flying from Cherry Point to Lajes, Azores, in 1968. The number two engine threw a turbine blade into a fuel line causing a major fire. We were well past the point of no return. We eventually extinguished the fire and landed just fine at Lajes AFB on three engines. It took a week to get a new engine from Cherry Point. We had a high time in Lajes for a week.
I wouldn't want to land in a C-130 having only one operating engine.
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Blue Creeker
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Why complain?! It's way cool!*
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7/22/2008 4:10:36 PM
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SBC Stingray
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Why complain?! It's way cool!*
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7/22/2008 5:00:37 PM
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I think the point trying to be made by ToTheLake and Boataholic is that they felt unsafe regardless of anything else. While this is nothing new to some of us, we (have had flyovers by T-38's from Columbus, C-130's, F-4's when they were based in BHM), some may not like it becasue that is a lot of machinery to be flying so low when you rarely see that. I would recommend calling Maxwell to voice your concerns. I am sure they will at least listen. But I wouldn't bank on it stopping anytime soon.
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Jim120
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Low flying airplanes @ lake
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7/22/2008 6:39:28 PM
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A year or two ago I read a book on the history of Lake Martin, They mentioned that shortly after (maybe during?) the War (II), a pair of training planes from Tuskegee crashed in the Lake and sank; at least one of the pilots died. I seem to remember the aircraft are stio at the bottom of the Lake supposedly. But then, I "seem to remember" a lot of things these days.
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Catherine
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I believe you are correct.
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7/22/2008 6:44:58 PM
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As far as I know, they are still at the bottom of the lake. Blue Creek area, I think?
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Kizma Anuice
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did Bush ever
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7/22/2008 7:29:23 PM
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fly over lake martin when he was in the Ala National Guard. Its a good thing Gore spent his time inventing the internet, cause he would have crashed sure as helll
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boataholic
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Why complain?! It's way cool!*
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7/22/2008 10:48:39 PM
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It was cool when he did the water pass towards Eagles Point at about the same altitude as the yellow sea plane that sometimes lands and takes off. Not cool when he later approached the peak of the county road 20 hillside sideways (one wing pointed down and the other skyward). Looked like he was going to clip the tall pines at the start. One of those lake moments you wish you had on video, because nobody ever believes the size of the one that got away.
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