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MAJ USA RET
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Sorting the Minds
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10/22/2009 9:57:23 AM
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Conservative: One who is reluctant to change. Will do so only provide for the national defense or to preserve inalienable rights. Believes that he or she is responsible for his and his family’s welfare and happiness. Believes that the Constitution was written by altruistic men with classical educations and a strong sense of history (avoid the fate of Rome). Understands the concept of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Is a citizen of a great nation of rugged individuals.
Liberal: One who is ideologically inclined to change. Will change for the sake of experiment or expediency. Believes that the government is responsible for his and his family’s welfare. Believes that the Constitution was a dynamic document written by a bunch of old white men. Does not feel that history is relevant (speeding toward the fate of Rome). Is vaguely aware (if at all) of the concept of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Is a citizen of the world.
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Yankee06
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Sorting the Minds
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10/22/2009 1:10:29 PM
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-Of course there are many ways to sought minds.
-But given that you want to just use the two categories above, I think we should add teh characteristic of "transiency." (Change?)
-A conservative's conservatism changes over time, reluctantly, but eventually. Conservatives who wouldn't except showing some ankle at teh beach in 1900, accepted one-piece bathing suits by 1940 (did they ever accept itsy bitsy teeny weeny yellow polka dot bikins?). Conservatives who wouldn't accept Sociel Security in 1940, wouldn't let you take it away in 1990. BUt politically, conservatives dems and repubs morph with time, always staying on the conservative end of teh political parties. Their ideas change, but they are still political conservatives.
-Liberal
-A liberal's liberalism changes over time too, drawing conservatives with it. BUt history indicates that that liberalisms morphs into socialism. Now the strange thing is --that's when change stops. When parties and then countries become socialist-to-communist, these parties or countries no longer allow liberal thinkers. these parties and countries only then allow conformist or "conservative" thinkers, those that will no longer politic for further change, but rather are willing to now conform to central thinking, in other words become conservative. That is why every full-fledged socialist-to-communist country eventually becomes a dictatorship (e.gs. from Russia to Cuba).
-look to our present socialists in politics and academie. Almost none of them can accept any questioning against central orthodoxy, ...for example, the present socialist administration's war on Fox and that war's leader's respect for Mao and his rule.
-liberals. who are students of history, should be worried.
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MAJ USA RET
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Dialing for help
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10/22/2009 5:13:49 PM
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In a home invasion, conservatives dial 1911A1. Help arrives in less than 10 seconds
In a home invasion, liberals dial 911 (if they can). Help arrives in around 10 minutes.
Police don't prevent crime, they investigate crime.
When a conservative comes under vicious attack, he looks first to himself, then a fellow conservative
When a liberal comes under attack, he is defenseless... and so looks for a conservative.
There are no liberal sheepdogs
There are no conservative sheep
Wolves are neither... but they do have a preference for sheep.
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Talullahhound
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You Know
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10/22/2009 5:44:24 PM
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There may be kernals of truth in both descriptions, but how many people are really that easily characterized? Not very many, I don't think. I don't know very many people that are purely liberal or purely conservative.
My feeling is that our country needs both. We need people who want to do things for others out of altruism or worry about the greater good. The thing is, we don't need just those kind of people any more than we need people that are purely conservative. I think we function best when we have a good mix of people. They balance one another. Rather than always trying to prove that one is better than the other, we should be glad for both.
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MAJ USA RET
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I Do Know
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10/22/2009 6:53:32 PM
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...but, it is certain that you know in your heart whether you are a sheep, a sheepdog... or a wolf. There is NO escape...you are ONE of those three.
The problem is that sheepdogs look enough like wolves to worry the sheep.
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MAJ USA RET
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I Do Know
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10/22/2009 6:54:41 PM
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...until the wolves appear.
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Talullahhound
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But that's my point
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10/22/2009 8:22:59 PM
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There is a little of each in all of us. I don't think humans are as easily characterized as these pigeon holes would put us. There may be some people in prison that suffer from borderline personality disorder or sociopaths who are purely wolves but the majority of us have a little of each.
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MAJ USA RET
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No confusion
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10/22/2009 8:54:28 PM
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I am in no part wolf. Any sheepdog who is confused about THAT, is NOT a sheepdog and deserves the distrust of the sheep!
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Have it your way. Some days you are the dog, some days you are the hydrant.
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