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MartiniMan
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Great summary of Climategate
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12/2/2009 1:42:15 PM
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From Lord Monckton, who has repeatedly challenged Algore to an AGW debate to the sound of crickets chirping. Algore is a gutless fraud as are the leadership in IPCC.
URL: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/12/01/lord-moncktons-summary-of-climategate-and-its-issues/
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Old Diver
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Great summary of Climategate
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12/3/2009 12:01:43 PM
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Does anyone remember the Earth ending cataclysms of the past?
1) Poison Cranberrys
2) Alar in apples
3) #2 red food color
4) Hole in ozone layer (That one cost billions)
5) Acid Rain
6) Global Cooling
7) Global Warming (Now climate change +/-)
There are many others. These sold their books, received their grants and went away.
A friend of mine who worked in medical research once candidly told me that the big money was in cancer research. He said that it was easy to get the first grant but subsequelt grants required "progress". He clearly stated that some data was faked just to obtain grants. What you pay for you get more of.
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Psycho
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Great summary of Climategate
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12/3/2009 12:39:15 PM
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Another thing that I've seen is false information about endangered species. I would guess that at least half of the so called endangered plants and animals are very far from being endangered. But there are tens of millions of dollars handing out to these scam artist every year.
...Hey another one...do you remember back in the 70's or early 80's when the nutcases were saying we were running out of room for landfills ?...accordding to them, the whole world should be completely covered in carbage by now. ...Its sad to think that after all these years there are people so gulible they fall for anything that comes along.
Heck, I think I'll start my own...ya know what? I hear the sun is burning out and will be gone is 6 months...lol...Hmmm...wonder how many million I can get to study that?
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MAJ USA RET
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Great summary of Climategate
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12/3/2009 1:10:59 PM
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Arrrggghh! You are right! The sun burns 700 billion tons of hydrogen every second! We are doomed!
We should convene a summit conference in Copenhagen to see how we can stop this. We could all end up like beetle juice... uh... Betelgeuse.
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rude evin
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Great Quote from a blogger
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12/3/2009 5:26:11 PM
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"Leave it to the Democrats to come up with a tax to change the weather"..................lol
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MAJ USA RET
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Now the UN Will Investigate
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12/4/2009 1:35:07 PM
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Right! The fox will investigate how the chickens went missing.
The only correct investigation is a public peer review starting with raw data. The data should be made available to anyone who wishes to download it and process it… and then publicly present methods and results. The scientific method demands this. Anything else is not science. Good science is made in the light… not in the dark; in the open… not in a closed room. AGW proponents and skeptics must be required to make their cases in public debate before another dime of our economies is squandered. We know that neither Gore nor Jones would debate either Drs William Gray or Richard Lindzen.
We know that the CDU raw data is gone and the processed data is soup. The code is an amalgam of convoluted smoothing and filtering and weighting routines. The code which produces the famous “hockey stick” can make a hockey stick out of random data. The Australians did not fall for bogus data and cap-and-trade was tossed by their legislature.
The NASA GISS will also soon fall from grace as it becomes public. It has taken two years and yet NASA is dithering on this release for which the taxpayers paid the bill.
The common thread is that, in each of the above cases, science was co-opted to support political agendas. In order for this to happen, the unbiased peer review process was circumvented and the data and code increasingly isolated from public access.
I am a geophysicist and a registered professional geologist. I, and over 31,000 others like me, am appalled at this unprofessional conduct. Gore can be dismissed… he is not a scientist, but an unethical profiteer (maybe subject to criminal prosecution). But those “scientists” who took their nefarious trade underground… They MUST be censured and rendered professionally inconsequential.
Is the globe warming? Could be. Is the globe cooling? Also could be. Is the concentration of CO2 higher than last century? Yes. Has the global climate ever been much warmer than over the past century? Yes. Has the concentration of CO2 been many times that of the last century? Yes.
Are humans causing the global climate to change? Publicly debate me on this. Bring your data and code.
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