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lotowner
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Back Door to Amnesty
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5/9/2010 6:24:05 AM
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Chattanooga Times
Democrats in the U.S. Senate are pushing their latest proposal to legalize millions of illegal aliens. But offering such an amnesty has proved extremely unpopular with the American people when it has been tried in recent years, so Democrats are trying to "sweeten" the plan by adding some reasonable-sounding requirements that illegal aliens would supposedly have to meet to get on a path toward citizenship.
The most absurd, if not dishonest, of those proposals is that illegal aliens who have been working in the United States would be required to pay their back taxes.
Think about that for a minute. Vast numbers of illegal aliens work outside the normal payroll system, getting cash "off the books" rather than traceable checks for their work. Many others use false (often stolen) Social Security numbers when they apply for jobs, and some give employers false names altogether.
Do you think it is realistic or even possible for IRS agents to track down and tabulate the amount of back taxes owed by each of those illegal aliens, then to find each one to make him pay the back taxes he owes?
Of course not! The proposal is just a scheme to try to drum up support for amnesty among Washington politicians. It would let congressmen go back to their home states and claim to have "gotten tough" on illegal immigration -- while in fact they were smoothing the path toward amnesty.
The American people do not want amnesty for illegal aliens. It is high time the Democrat majority in Washington got that message.
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widgethater
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Back Door to Amnesty
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5/9/2010 3:32:12 PM
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The only door should be the LEGAL front door. Allow legal immigration and send back illegals. Just follow the da$% law!! It's not rocket science folks.
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Mack
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I Hate This Forum
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5/9/2010 9:46:14 PM
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Look closely at the laborers who are digging dirt in a landscaping job, or putting a new roof on a house, or cleaning a house, bussing a table, or plucking chickens in a chicken house. Many, if not most, are Hispanic, right??
Are they legal? Do you care on your job?? Nope.
But, BIG BUT, most show up for work every day, they work very hard at some of the worst jobs, and, and, and, they work CHEAP.
Not all, but most are family oriented, that's why they are here. Ever noticed the special "MailMoneyHome" window at WalMart??
If Illegal Hispanics were not allowed to draw a PAYCHECK, they would not have crossed the border seeking work. They could have stayed in Central America and overthrown their governments.
So, when Americans scream about problems caused by Illegal Immigrants, we are really feeling the results of a problem that WE AMERICANS created. Solve our own problems, FIRST.
1. Pull 90% of the Border Patrol personnel away from the border and back into border cities/high-Hispanic areas inland to check workers for papers. If illegal, deport them and ARREST the EMPLOYER!! YES, the employer.
2. Wait about 10 days for Congress/Justice Department to declare this action unlawful.
In the interim, your roofing job is delayed, your house gets dusty, your lawn weeds get bigger, and WalMart has a slight dip.
Because AMERICANs no longer HONOR physical labor, nor are we willing to do it ourselves or pay for quality. We hire it out to a sub, who uses cheap labor rather than the man in the unemployment line who won't do "that kind of work".
My point? If there were no market for drugs in the US, there would be no drug problem. Likewise, if there was no demand for unskilled, unlicensed, undocumented workers, the immigration problem would be very different.
Buy Mexico!!
And, I hate this forum because I always get into trouble when I post.
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GoneFishin
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I Hate This Forum
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5/9/2010 10:28:15 PM
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Mack, this time you are right on. Great post.
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muddauber
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I Hate This Forum
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5/10/2010 12:31:24 AM
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You hit the nail on the head with that one.
Gotta go after the employers if you want to accomplish anything. Course, it would help if the feds had a proper clearing house to verify green card workers (not big brother national id).
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Lifer
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Typical leftists idiocy
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5/10/2010 8:23:58 AM
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Obviuosly Mack or GF have never hired anyone to go on a legit payroll. If you had you would be familiar with the Department of Justice I-9 Form. After the illegals were given amnesty under Reagan a system was put in place to stop folks from hiring illegals. Everyone must fill out and sign an I-9 that requires proof of elligibillity to work in the US. Great plan you would think. The from asks for such things as driver's license #, passpot, SS card, Green Card etc. The employer must verify the documnets and make copies.
Like I said, great plan, till the beauracrats (sp?) got in the mix. Thats when it becomes a joke. On the front it asks for legitimate documents, but then instucts one the check the back of the form for 'alternative' verification documents. The list is nuts. Any type of bill, personal letter sent to the applicant at a US address is sufficient. What it has turned into is a get out of jail free card for employers. If you have the I-9 on file, you are in the clear. The illigals are aware of this and know very well how to circumvent the process.
This was instituted as a way to stop Illigal Immagrants from being hired. You see it is ALREADY illegal to hire them. Just not enforced.
As for the 'jobs we wan't do' BS, it is just that BS. What about the meat processsing plant that got raided and sent 100+ packing (pardon the pun). Of course it made local news and the next day there were 4-5 AMERICANS in line for every one that was deported wanting to work. I am sure you never heard of it because it was NEVER run on any of the obamamania media.
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wix
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Mack,
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5/10/2010 9:29:20 AM
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you speak with as much knowledge as someone from North Dakota does speaking of the Southern racial issues. Go to the border states and ask them about crime, laziness, etc. What you see in this area are the industrious illegals willing to work. Wait for the second generation and see what welfare and free care does to them. Illegals should be stopped at every level, border, work place, homes, beds, everywhere.
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Yankee06
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Country of laws???
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5/10/2010 1:42:06 PM
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-What has made America great is that we try to be a country of laws.
-Why people flee others countries to get here is because their political systems are normally not countries of laws but countries of poor political systems, countries run on graft, corruption, etc. As a result the economic systems usually suck.
-Mack is right that a large number of South Americans come here to work. ..and some business owners exploit them. The solution is not open borders but a guest worker program (one that doesn't include anchor babies).
-Others on this forum are right that a lot of Mexicans and others come here for welfare. Their countries suck. So they come here. Can we just have open borders? NO, we couldn't assimilate 1/2 of 1% of teh world's needy before we would be overwhelemed. Even teh craziest of liberals have a hard time defending borders open to everyone, so even they recognize there is a need for an immigration program that has reasonable numbers.
-People say we are a country of immigrants. We are. But the big immigration waves of teh 19th and 20th centuries, when most of our immigrant ancesters came, were times when there were no immigration restrictions on numbers ...and no welfare programs.
-To allow open borders now is national suicide. So we need a rational immigration program that includes immigrant numbers that cover our national needs, a guest worker program that provides temporary relief in seasonal or boom/bust industries, and an enforcement process that recognizes we are a country of laws that must be enforced ...or legally changed.
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Mack
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Wix
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5/10/2010 4:51:44 PM
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Your anology involving North Dakota is duly noted and ignored.
I am not suggesting an open border. I was trying to make a point about WHY many illegals are here: because there is a market for them here. And, further that many legal residents on welfare/unemployment are not willing to do the work that the illegals are.
My intention is not to rant but to highlight one incentive for them to cross. I am not a resident of Texas/Arizona, but I don't need to be to understand their motivation. If Alabama was as bad as Mexico, wouldn't you be in line to swim the Chattahoochee?
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