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MartiniMan
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Obama the clueless statist
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6/15/2010 8:25:16 PM
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As expected the Messiah's reflexive response to the spill in the Gulf is more taxes on every American citizen that consumes petroleum products based on carbon. Someone please help me understand how taking more money from taxpayers and fattening the government's coffers helps the economy or solves anything.
On another note he is now characterizing the spill as an attack on America. Please help me understand how attacking a company that employs tens of thousands of people in the U.S. and whose financial viability is key to being able to pay for the cleanup and resultant damages helps America?
Folks, he is by far the most incompetent person to ever hold the office of President of the U.S. Not this decade or this century but of all time. He is more suited to a system where the royalty make nice speeches and the adults run government than our system. It is actually becoming frightening when taken in total. Our enemies are on the march, our allies are taken aback, our economy is in the dumps, our deficit is in the trillions, and on and on and on.
For those of you that are Obama apologists I hope this is the last straw. if not, shame on you......
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Talullahhound
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Obama the clueless statist
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6/15/2010 8:34:55 PM
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It's definitely an attack on our environment, and I guess the on-going problem is definitely having a negative effect on our economy. Maybe we'll declare war on the oil.
I thought his speech was lame.... but I'm not of a mind to make apologies for or to let BP off the hook no matter how many Americans they employ. Some offenses transend the employment issue.
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lotowner
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Obama the clueless statist
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6/15/2010 9:01:24 PM
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I've heard about his Cabinet member with the PhD who won the Nobel prize at the first part of every comment that Obama gives when he's talking about the oil spill. His PhD is in Physics, not petroleum engineering. This reminds me of the conversation that I have had when I talked with one of our children about heart surgery or kidney stones. He is an OB GYN - an MD. BUT, he knows very little about heart surgery, brain surgery, or Pediatrics. Obama should take the same approach with the Nobel Prize Winner.
Like it or not, we are nowhere close to being energy independent. So, why not expand drilling on land and shallow water. We have been very successful in protecting the environment and wildlife in the Arctic. Do this while we are getting to be independent.
Why should BP turn over 20B dollars to the government to dispense. At some point in time, someone will argue that whites are getting more money than blacks; restaurant owners are getting more than shrimp boat captains; and or more money needs to be directed toward protecting the dolphins rather than oysters.
He looked sincere but it was obvious that he was over his head in managing a major effort. Kicking As$ does not get things done. Why is he so late in talking to the BP CEO. Is the CG Admiral really getting the job done. Why not get T Bone Pickens and other oil experts from Chevron, etc. on an advisory Board.
He was totally lost tonight. This country needs leadership. Even Sarah Palin looked better than Obama and was knowledgeable about energy and dealing with oil companies.
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MartiniMan
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Obama the clueless statist
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6/15/2010 9:31:20 PM
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I really think he wants to make this his 9/11 moment but the analogy is completely wrong. BP never meant for this to happen and it is incredibly damaging to them as a company versus the Islamofascists that did exactly what they intended.
No one is suggesting that BP be "let off the hook" for this nightmare but let's face it, if they want off the hook they simply file Chapter 11. Then the shareholders and bondholders (everyone with a 401k or IRA) and the taxpayers get completely screwed. This is just complete craziness to attack BP and threaten their existence. It might make them feel good that they are kicking some a-- but we are the ones that will pay the price and they are so stupid and incompetent that I truly believe they don't understand that fact of life.
Hound, this is beyond amazing in all its awful glory. This is why we didn't want this guy elected and held our nose and voted for McCain. I can't believe I am saying this but Hillary would have been a dramatic improvement over this guy. It is just mind boggling in all its stupidity and incompetence. Beyond mind boggling....
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lotowner
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MSNBC Comments on Obama's Speech
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6/15/2010 9:36:03 PM
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Chris Matthews, Keith Olbermann and Howard Fineman react to President Obama's Oval Office Address on the oil spill. Here are the highlights of what the trio said:
Olbermann: "It was a great speech if you were on another planet for the last 57 days."
Matthews compared Obama to Carter.
Olbermann: "Nothing specific at all was said."
Matthews: "No direction."
Howard Fineman: "He wasn't specific enough."
Olbermann: "I don't think he aimed low, I don't think he aimed at all. It's startling."
Howard Fineman: Obama should be acting like a "commander-in-chief."
Matthews: Ludicrous that he keeps saying [Secretary of Energy] Chu has a Nobel prize. "I'll barf if he does it one more time."
Matthews: "A lot of meritocracy, a lot of blue ribbon talk."
Matthews: "I don't sense executive command."
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realfast64
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Obama the clueless statist
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6/15/2010 9:39:49 PM
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The worst part of the whole nite was the division of the group on fox after the speach. We are in deep trouble.
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Talullahhound
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6/16/2010 7:27:52 AM
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I think that his speech lacked passion. However, I see no reason to think that if McCain was in office, he would have been any better equipped to deal with this situation. At then end of the day, no matter how lame or how good the speeches, this thing has still happened and everyone is scrambling to figure out what to do. Remember, he is/was not a "domestic" guy.
As far as Obama not meeting with the CEO of BP -- realistically, what do we expect to come out of such a meeting? Presumably, BP is doing everything they know how to do to fix the situation. As far as I'm concerned, it would just be a photo op -- symbolic, but no real purpose. Rather like the Congressional hearings with the Oil Executives. What do we really expect to come out of that? Waste of time.
I'm not defending Obama, and I'm not advocating the dissolution of BP.
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MrHodja
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Obama the clueless statist
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6/16/2010 7:35:33 AM
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It would seem to me that the US Government and BP should have been working as a team from the beginning to plug the hole and minimize the impact. Thus, I would expect the two leaders to meet and discuss strategies and how the two could work together -- with BP taking the lead on plugging the hole and the Gov't lending a hand with shoreline protection efforts.
Instead we have a confrontational relationship that does nothing to help solve either problem. Just another example of the wrong-headedness of the current administration - more interested in their own political futures than what is best for the country.
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Old Crappie
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Obama the clueless statist
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6/16/2010 8:51:35 AM
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Never waste a crisis. If you saw the president's speech last night, you know that he doesn't intend to waste this one. I contend that if he had attacked the problem from the beginning, (such as accepting the Dutch skimmers, etc.) 99% of the oil would not have reached the shore and there would be no crisis.
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MartiniMan
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You are missing the entire point
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6/16/2010 9:00:27 AM
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I have pointed this out numerous times but it is apparently not getting through. What could the federal government under Obama do in response to this problem? They could get the he|| out of the way of BP and the states but because we are leaderless and have only a teleprompter in chief they did not. One shining example. It took them six weeks to approve the berms that Bobby Jindal, a true executive and leader, requested be built!!! And even after approval the Feds are still hemming and hawing on this to the point that Jindal has said he is going ahead with them regardless of what the Feds say. I could cite many other examples like the refusal of the Dutch help, the lengthy approval process to do anything and on and on.
As for your opinion of what McCain would or would not do I have to vehemently disagree and this is just my opinion. One thing about McCain, whether you like him or not or like what he does or not, he would have made decisions. I feel almost certain that he would have issued an executive order to the USACOE to approve the berms and he would have done it right away.
This administration is a complete nightmare and all you can say is McCain would have done no better?!?!? You don't know for certain that he would have done no better like I don't know for certain he would have. One thing we both know for certain is he could have been no worse than the man-child in the Oval office. 2012 will not be here soon enough and G-d help the GOP if they put up some retread.
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jace
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Obama the clueless statist
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6/16/2010 9:21:04 AM
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Well we now know whos butt will be kicked. It will be Obamas on election day
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houseboat
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Obama the clueless statist
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6/16/2010 1:14:25 PM
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Maybe if he had ever had a job he could do better!!!!!!!
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Talullahhound
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You are missing the entire point
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6/16/2010 3:41:01 PM
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No, I'm not missing the point.
Any strategies that will be worked out between BP and the government will be done at a level a lot lower than the CEO and the President. Honestly, meetings at that level are rarely more than grip and grins, everybody makes nice and then they leave it to their staffs. The biggest nightmare for BP is the PR one -- this is hardly their only well, and business I'm sure is going on as usual. Keep in mind that only a small portion of what is going on behind the scenes is likely being reported. It's in the interest of media to continually report on how bad things are going, and totally ignore the rest.
Now, where I do see a failure is the government taking so long to respond to the permit request to build berms. Total failure on the part of government to be responsive. I'm sure the COE would say that they did it in "record" time, having to study it and then staff the approval and send it up the chain -- but someone signifigant as the CoE should have been granted authority to circumvent even expedited "normal".
The only thing that I am concerned about is getting the oil spew shut down. I don't care if Obama talks to BP CEO or if Obama goes to the Gulf to "listen to the people" and walk around in his good shoes on the sand. And it doesn't matter a lick to me whether McCain would have dealt with it better or not. He's not the President, we are where we are, and it seems rather sad to me for people to be focused on "what might have been" rather than being totally appalled by what is happening with the oil.
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MartiniMan
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You are missing the entire point
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6/16/2010 4:13:25 PM
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I agree with most of what you are saying and I agree that our opinion about what McCain would or would not do is moot. We are stuck with the teleprompter in chief....I would point out that only one of us voted for the Messiah. :-)
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Talullahhound
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You are missing the entire point
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6/16/2010 7:42:04 PM
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Very true. Let's both hope the Republicans find someone decent to run in 2012.
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jace
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Obama the clueless statist
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6/17/2010 9:46:42 AM
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I agree he's never had a job. I just hope the GOP comes up with someone before 2012! I belive in lead follow or get out of the way, Obama is never going to lead. Please dont let the gov take it over so get out of the way and let BP do there job. In the future pay closer attention . My fear is BP will never pay for this. life on the gulf will never be the same it will take years to fix this. They will stop the leak one day and as soon as life looks better on the gulf everyone will forget and run for the good times and as usual we and our kids will pay huge prices for fuel.
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