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MartiniMan
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Predictions for Tuesday Mid-Terms
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10/30/2010 6:13:51 PM
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Curious what others think will happen. My uneducated prediction as follows:
Senate: GOP 48 Dem 52
House of Rep. GOP pick up of 44 seats and control
Governors: GOP 32 Dem 18
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water_watcher
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Predictions for Tuesday Mid-Terms
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10/31/2010 9:07:01 AM
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It is anybodys guess ... but I think the GOP will pick up 1 or 2 more in the senate ... I am still hoping a few of the close races the GOP pull out and control ... would like to see Boxer out in California. It looks like Ried will be gone (Thank God), but still in my toss up column.
I hope the House is a total blow out ... but then we will have to hear Obama complain for two more years. I will bet he vetos the extension of the Bush tax cuts regardless what is right, good for the country and what the american people want. He can not stand to lose and admit his agenda is a failure.
I really think Obama is starting to lose it.
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GoneFishin
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Predictions for Tuesday Mid-Terms
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10/31/2010 9:31:24 PM
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Pelosi will resign after January 1 as did Gingrich.
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Barneget
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Politico has R pickup at 50-70,
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10/31/2010 10:48:10 PM
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Means it could easily fall in the 70-90 range. Maybe Dick Morris is right at Republican pickup of 100 with a Republican Senate majority. Looking forward to Tuesday night when I can hopefully state " for the first time in 2 years I am proud of my country".
URL: Grim Dems await huge House losses
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Barneget
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Predictions for Tuesday Mid-Terms
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10/31/2010 10:48:58 PM
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Agree with the Pelosi prediction
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GoneFishin
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Even Barnieeee
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10/31/2010 11:03:31 PM
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Even Barnieee Frank is nervous about his seat. His opponent is an Iraqui war vet. It will be interesting to see what the Conservatives will do with their new found power. They screwed it up in 94 as it lasted just 2 years.
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Barneget
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Even Barnieeee
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10/31/2010 11:47:00 PM
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Lets see, where would I start --
Gut Obamacare, make Bush Tax Cuts permanent, defund EPA, Dept of Ed., and Dept of Energy, roll back entitlement dollars to 2003 levels and apportion available dollars among remaining programs, eliminate funding for Federal Community Grants, kill corporate and farm subsidies, mass transit subsidies, art and entertainment subsidies, implement FAIR Tax, reopen domestic petroleum drilling. January 6....build a federal budget for the balance of this year then begin work on building next years.
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MartiniMan
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Not sure I understand what you mean about 94
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11/1/2010 10:30:51 AM
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GF, the GOP maintained control of both the House and the Senate from 1995 (1994 election cycle) to 2001 (2000 election cycle) when they lost control of the Senate for two years when Jim Jeffords switched to Independent and voted with the Dems. That only lasted two years and the GOP regained control of the Senate and House until the 2006 election cycle. So for all but 2 of 12 years they controlled both the House and the Senate. They also controlled the White House for half that period. It looks like Dems have screwed the pooch in 1/3rd the time it took the GOP to do so. We shall see.
As for what they accomplished during that timeframe my view as a social and fiscal conservative is that the vast majority of their successes were in the early years. For example, the two primary positive aspects of the Clinton presidency (debt reduction and welfare reform) were the creation of the GOP controlled House and Senate. In fact I take the position that welfare reform was the only successful social program achievement of the last 50 years.
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MartiniMan
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Even Barnieeee
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11/1/2010 10:33:47 AM
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Ya gotta dream.....problem is there is no way some of this will happen even if they do everything in their power to make it happen. Take Obamacare for example. Is there any doubt that Obama will veto any legislation overturning this monstrosity? But there is no way the GOP will be able to line up enough Dems in the Senate to override the veto. Our next opportunity to do most of this is in 2012 if we can send Obama back to community agitating in Chicago. Its good to make the list but we can't create unrealistic expectations.
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Barneget
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Even Barnieeee
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11/1/2010 3:14:22 PM
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MM, my understanding is that appropriations are the realm of the House. If so, they can start that first Monday in January, without waiting for the Senate majority. That said, those moves would produce some pain across the board. It takes leaders, and leadership, to generate buy in to these reforms, someone(s) capable of convincing the dullards that our current path is absolutely unsustainable, that these measures, and others necessary, will in a very short time return our great nation to a land of virtually unlimited opportunity. Of course, medicare beneficiaries will holler as the prescription drug benefit is rolled back, non retired social security receipients will raise cain because their personality disorders will no longer qualify them for a disability check, multi generational subsidized families will threaten to riot as limits are placed on housing food and medical care, starving artists will wail, social engineers masquerading as educators will forecast death and destruction, can't predict what the street car drivers will do as mass transit and Amtrak must become self sustaining. Then, a real test for the leadership, and this must be said -- Veterans Benefits. First, root out the blatant fraud and corruption to establish real cost, then initiate programs to get the cost, and forecast growth in cost, under control. When this list is checked off, we will be spending the same dollars, at the federal level, as were spent in 2004. That is not only sustainable, we could, within 9.5 years, retire the $14 trillion dollar defecit
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GoneFishin
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Not sure I understand what you mean about 94
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11/1/2010 4:41:41 PM
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"They screwed it up in 94 as it lasted just 2 years." A poor choice of words.
My point was that Gingrich as the leader lasted a few years and then resigned. After the 94 election, I expected he would remain Speaker for many years with his Contract With America. He is more of an academic and thinker than a leader. An interesting book that spelled it out in detail is the Tom Delay autobiography "No Retreat, No Surrender". I am looking at the book as I type. See if the library carries it as it makes good reading and that is from a "socialist".
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MartiniMan
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Even Barnieeee
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11/1/2010 4:42:02 PM
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I love your list and hope they tackle them all. That would be leadership and frankly what I think a lot of disaffected conservatives and quite a few independents are hoping they do. Using the purse strings in the House is probably our best bet and you are right, it will cause a lot of whining on the left and the usual parade of sob stories in the government media.
My only point is that we not put the monkey on their back to get Obamacare repealed because that will not happen. What I hope they do is pass legislation in the House to repeal and replace with something sensible. Then send to the Senate for reconciliation. If they can't get the Senate to act that is our template for arguing in 2012 that more Dem Senators and RINO's need the heave ho. If by some miracle it passes the Senate, which I think unlikely given we will only have at best a split or a one seat majority, then Obama veto's and it strengthens our argument in 2012 that he also has to go.
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MartiniMan
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Gotcha
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11/1/2010 5:19:23 PM
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I understand and agree completely. Gingrich has a lot of great ideas but I think his rhetoric makes him a lightning rod for the left. One interesting factoid was a conversation I had with our DC lobbyist who is a Republican. He said that a lot of the animosity and abject partisanship started with Newt in 1994 and they never forgot. It actually started earlier when he and others orchestrated the departure of Jim Wright and all the ethics charges were retaliation for that and the partisan rancor. He places 80% of the blame on Newt. Just one guy's perspective but interesting nonetheless.
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GoneFishin
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Martini Your 48-52
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11/2/2010 1:53:09 PM
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Your predicition is interesting as I can see Ben Nelson and Lieberman voting with Republicans on many issues. That would leave a 50-50 tie and that Deleware race the critical one. And, I predict the Dem wins in Deleware...that marxist as you say.
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MartiniMan
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Martini Your 48-52
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11/2/2010 3:48:02 PM
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Could be although I heard a story today that Coons is openly worried about turnout and is making a last ditch effort to get Dems to the polls. Too bad he doesn't have Harry Reid's contacts with the casino's so they can bus em over.
As for Nelson, et al crossing over, remember we have the RINO's Snowe, Collins, et al so it might be a wash....so to speak. Fact is that much of what many folks hope will get done (i.e., repeal of Obamacare) will not survive a veto. But I would be more than pleased to get the repeal to that point as it will be a big motivator for 2012 to make Obama a one termer.......something I see as highly unlikely.
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