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Name:   lotowner - Email Member
Subject:   Cheaper Health care
Date:   12/18/2010 10:15:45 PM


I am sure that my insurance carriers for my  Medicare have made a mistake in my premiums for 2011. A 10% increase in my Part B supplement, a $150 deductible for my pharmacy, and higher deductibles and prices for tier 2 and 3 medications is not true. When I get in the doughnut hole, I will be given a 50% discount.But prior to the doughnut hole,my cost will be significantly higher.

I wonder what illnesses may be dropped in 2011 forward and will my Dr.decide that he does not want to treat Medicare patients.Maybe I should have been less successful and gone for Medicaid like so many of the young single parents have done. Just think - housing supplements; free pharmacy; food stamps; free diapers; assistance for baby sitting. And if I happen to get a job and get laid off,I can then qualify for 99 weeks of unemployment. Let's redistribute the wealth and be one big family.   



Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   Cheaper Health care
Date:   12/18/2010 10:54:20 PM


No one ever said that your health insurance premiums would not go up.  I'm not eligible for Medicare yet, but my health insurance went up, a few of my deductibles went up, but now I get my routine health screening for "free" (hard to think of them as free when I am paying so much in premiums). 

I'm still ticked off about them extending health insurance to children up to age 26.... 26 is an adult no matter how you look at it. 

I don't know about Medicaid, but if you are right, it sounds like it is designed to protect minor children. 



Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   Cheaper Health care
Date:   12/18/2010 10:59:51 PM

I have a lot of empathy for older folks like Lotowner who have obviously been successfull in life and and now fear losing it to the government and insurance companies. Hob Knob makes light of the seriousness that Lotowner expressed. In the spirit of the season, Hob Knob needs to send Lotowner an eCard and boost his spirit rather than seeking a comment from me. Pal, it is time to grow up and either fish or cut bait at Toledo Bend. Our buddy Lotowner is depressed. Be a real man and show compassion.



Name:   comrade - Email Member
Subject:   Cheaper Health care
Date:   12/19/2010 1:05:52 AM

Don't worry. When your doctor decides to quit taking Medicare and Medicaid because it doesn't pay overhead (besides not being sustainable and financially reasonable in the face of liability and trial lawyers), your democratic, liberal government will make it illegal not to take the government subisidized,socialized health insurance (sic). In the spirit of Nazi Germany, the doctors who refuse to play by their rules will be rounded up and jailed, or squelched in one manner or another. Black Market health care might be possible in some dark alley, but only as you look over your shoulder - and only for cash, which might not be a bad idea, even today. 
But the populace who cooperate will be marvelously,completely, controlled from cradle to grave..... and the appropriate lifespan (as determined by the GAO) can be easily adjusted and cited in literature depending on the current deficit.



Name:   lotowner - Email Member
Subject:   Age 26
Date:   12/19/2010 6:23:57 PM (updated 12/19/2010 6:25:28 PM)


Help me in my memory. Was the old rule that a child would continue to be covered by the parent's insurance while a full time student in college and up to the age of 25? If age or full time was violated, the child was not covered.

I know of one particular case where the child is out of HS, does not work, does not intend to work, lives at home, etc. Obamacare - Will this person be covered until he/she reaches 26?



Name:   wix - Email Member
Subject:   Cheaper Health care
Date:   12/19/2010 6:42:50 PM

Close as I can figure, Alabama Blue Cross Advantage went up $2,000 to $3,000 for 2011 when you count $600 premium increase, increases in co-pays on docs and meds, and diagnostics. I'm looking around. This program has gone to hell in a hand basket.



Name:   alahusker - Email Member
Subject:   Cheaper Health care
Date:   12/19/2010 7:58:50 PM

I though the promise from the president was no increase in premiums with universal coverage.  Maybe i misunderstood the selling points??  



Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   Age 26
Date:   12/19/2010 8:20:34 PM

My understanding is that he will be. 

I think the coverage used to continue until age 21 or 22.  I remember people being upset that they had to get their child an independent policy while they were in college. 




Name:   comrade - Email Member
Subject:   Cheaper Health care
Date:   12/19/2010 8:22:37 PM

Most presidents and politicians ignore the basic laws of physics, and most people are all too willing to believe them, if they are promised something for nothing. Isn't God the only one who can pull that off?



Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   Cheaper Health care
Date:   12/19/2010 8:26:33 PM


He may have said that at some point, but the WH has previously stated that health insurance premiums would continue to rise.... I think what they may have meant health care premiums wouldn't specifically raise as a result of Universal coverage. 

It's all smoke and mirrors.  There is no way that you can increase coverage and not have premiums go up.  And as the cost of living goes up, so go the insurance premiums. 

I understand that with the states being in such dire financial straits, medicaid will discontinue coverage of transplants. 
I know that the average cost of a transplant surgery is in the neighborhood of $65K and the anti-rejection drugs run about $700-1,000 per month.   I didn't realize that all transplant surgeries were now being paid for under Medicaid. 



Name:   alahusker - Email Member
Subject:   Cheaper Health care
Date:   12/19/2010 8:48:40 PM

Not smoke and mirrors, Hound, it outright lying.  And the shameful thing is that the shameful people we sent to Washington shoved it down our throats, despite our better judgement and wishes..   Universal coverage, improved quality, decreased premiums and a reduction in the deficit national debt with a 2000 page bill  no one read.. Now, as the former Pastor of the President stated..  " the chickens have come to roost." 



Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   Cheaper Health care
Date:   12/20/2010 8:20:05 AM


It's discouraging. 







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