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Name:   wix - Email Member
Subject:   They walk among us.
Date:   1/10/2011 9:22:47 AM

The Arizona killings should remind us of the 60s Warren Supreme Court decision that tied the hands of states in dealing with crazies. While the ruling released many psychiatric patients that should have been released it also prevented our society from policing and controlling the dangerous crazies that kill, rape and abuse adults and children today. Odd this is never mentioned by the do-gooders who coddle potential criminals.



Name:   Old Diver - Email Member
Subject:   They walk among us.
Date:   1/10/2011 7:43:13 PM

Don't forget that it was the good ole ACLU that brought the case to the Supreme Court that severely limited the right of states to confine the mentally defective. Now one has to prove they are a danger to them selves or someone else.  In a period of about 3 years  2/3 if the inmates were dumped out on the street. And that, dear friends, is where most of the homeless  comes from. And when these loons realized the disaster they caused they said, "Blame Regan because it happened on his watch!"  These S O B's have no shame! 





Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   They walk among us.
Date:   1/10/2011 8:07:56 PM

The basis for the original case appears to be the fault of the State of Florida and not the ACLU. I agree it did lead to a mass release and the homeless issue that still exists. I saw it on a daily basis when I worked in Philly and every morning waled by the homeless living in refrigerator cartons within the subway concourse. Here is the basis for the original ruling: 1975 O'Connor v. Donaldson The origins of Donaldson's institutionalization began in 1943, at age 43, when he suffered a trauma episode. He was hospitalized and received treatment, before resuming life with his family. However, in 1950s he developed paranoid delusions, and was committed to the state hospital of Chattahoochee, Florida in 1956. He spent 15 years as a patient; though he did not receive any treatment, actively refusing it, and attempting to secure his release. Throughout his stay he denied he was ever ill, and refused to be put into a half-way house. In 1956, Kenneth Donaldson, a 48-year-old man from Philadelphia, traveled to Florida to visit his elderly parents. While there, Donaldson reported that he believed one of his neighbors in Philadelphia might be poisoning his food. His father, worried that his son suffered from paranoid delusions, petitioned the court for a sanity hearing. Donaldson was evaluated, diagnosed with "paranoid schizophrenia," and civilly committed to the Florida State mental health system. At his commitment trial, Donaldson did not have legal counsel present to represent his case. Once he entered the Florida hospital, Donaldson was placed with dangerous criminals, even though he had never been proved to be dangerous to himself or others. His ward was understaffed, with only one doctor (who happened to be an obstetrician) for over 1,000 male patients. There were no psychiatrists or counselors, and the only nurse on site worked in the infirmary.







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