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water_watcher
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Wal-Mart vs Government
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1/23/2011 8:35:19 AM
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Wal-Mart
vs. The Government
Who would you trust to run Health Care ???
1. Americans spend $36,000,000 at Wal-Mart
Every hour of every day.
2. This works out to $20,928 profit every minute!
3. Wal-Mart will sell more from January 1 to St. Patrick's Day (March 17th) than Target sells all year.
4. Wal-Mart is bigger than Home Depot + Kroger + Target + Sears + Costco + K-Mart combined.
5. Wal-Mart employs 1.6 million people, is the world's largest private employer, and most speak English.
6. Wal-Mart is the largest company in the history of the world.
7. Wal-Mart now sells more food than Kroger and Safeway combined, and keep in mind they did this in only fifteen years.
8. During this same period, 31 big supermarket chains sought bankruptcy.
9. Wal-Mart now sells more food than any other store in the world.
10. Wal-Mart has approx 3,900 stores in the USA of which 1,906 are Super Centers; this is 1,000 more than it had five years ago.
11. This year 7.2 billion different purchasing experiences will occur at Wal-Mart stores.
(Earth's population is approximately 6.5 Billion.)
12. 90% of all Americans live within fifteen miles of a Wal-Mart.
This should be read and understood by all Americans
Democrats, Republicans, EVERYONE!!
A. The U.S. Postal Service was established in 1775. You have had 234 years to get it right and it is broke.
B. Social Security was established in 1935. You have had 74 years to get it right and it is broke.
C. Fannie Mae was established in 1938. You have had 71 years to get it right and it is broke.
D. War on Poverty started in 1964. You have had 45 years to get it right; $1 trillion of our money is confiscated each year and transferred to "the poor"
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Talullahhound
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So, you want
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1/23/2011 10:18:26 AM
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Walmart to take over health care?
Last week, I went to Walmart to pick up my prescriptions. It was supposed to be ready at 10 the day before. So on the 2nd day, it wasn't ready and I complained. The pharmacist asked me to speak to the store manager, because they do not give her enough help to keep up with the volume. When I posted my experience on FB, no fewer than 10 of my FB friends posted similar experiences at Walmart -- including getting the wrong pills. Some actually stand at the counter and check their prescriptions, because of fears of getting the wrong pills from the overworked, over stressed staff.
So I guess if that is what you want from a health care system, then I guess Walmart is a great model.
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JohnGalt
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So, you want
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1/23/2011 10:32:01 AM
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You had a previous post back in August complaining about wal mart pharmacy. Why do you continue to do business with them when you have other choices in the area?
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water_watcher
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So, you want
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1/23/2011 11:22:37 AM
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They may not get everything right, everytime, at every store .... but they do most of the time or they would not be as successful as they are.
But think about Obama during the campaign blasting Wal-Mart because they do not want unions. He should have been embracing them for the jobs they created. So lets see, they unionize, costs go up, productivity goes down, tehir flexibility to run their business is limited. Do you think their growth would be hurt? Do you think that would create more jobs or less? Do you think they would pay more corporate taxes or less after their costs go up and efficiency goes down?
Sorry they screwed up your perscription ... but I would take them running anything rather than the federal government.
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comrade
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So, you want
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1/23/2011 11:31:04 AM
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What is "FB?"
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| Name: |
water_watcher
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So, you want
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1/23/2011 11:36:10 AM
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Facebook
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| Name: |
comrade
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So, you want
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1/23/2011 11:49:48 AM
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Wouldn't it be great if you could just place your order for drugs on FB, and then have the US government deliver them to you, via the USPS? We could get rid of those silly pharmacists and their incompetence. Then you would only have to stand at the McDonalds counter to check your bag for the correct number of Big Macs - damn retail free market bastards.....
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| Name: |
Talullahhound
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So, you want
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1/23/2011 12:01:54 PM
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Are you drinking? Your post makes no sense.
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architect
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Humm...
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1/23/2011 1:07:02 PM
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Last time I checked, the US Marines were a government program. How 'bout we turn the whole ball of wax to Walmart?
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comrade
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So, you want
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1/23/2011 1:23:51 PM
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my brand of sarcasm........ :) Guess I shouldn't have had that whole bottle of cough syrup
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| Name: |
lotowner
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So, you want
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1/23/2011 1:41:59 PM
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My experience is not even close to what you describe. I give them an A+.
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| Name: |
water_watcher
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Nope ...
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1/23/2011 5:12:43 PM
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The government in most cases runs the military VERY well ... but that should be their job ... NOT free enterprise stuff like running businesses and healthcare systems ... the reason we have the most advanced and BEST healthcare in the world is because the government has NOT run it. They try to run medicare, and it is bankrupt and corrupt ... the care itself is fine ... but that is because the care has been part of the free market system.
So let the government do what they should do best ... protect our nation and freedom, wage war when necessary to do that. And stay out of the free market. Create the right incentives to keep jobs in this country and grow the economy.
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water_watcher
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I do not ...
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1/23/2011 5:14:13 PM
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include the TSA at the airport as a good government run program either. Horrible ... that would also be much better to go back to the free market with government oversight with intelligent people.
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copperline
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Wal-Mart vs Government
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1/23/2011 9:20:47 PM
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I like Walmart, it really is a stunning example of successful capitalism. If it was a sovereign nation, it would be China's 8th largest trading partner.
But only around 45% of Walmart's employees are covered by company medical insurance. That suggests that a substantial number of their employees are getting healthcare by visiting ER's whereby the hospitals have to pay for needed treatment, or by getting government aid such as Medicare or Medicaid. A survey by Georgia officials revealed that 10,000 children of Walmart employees were in the state's health program for children at a cost of nearly $10million to taxpayers. A North Carolina hospital found that 31% pf 1900 patients who described themselves as Walmart employees were on Medicaid, while an additional 16% had no insurance at all.
It's not that Walmart doesn't offer health insurance (well, none for all those part-timers), but the out of pocket costs, deductibles and required time-of-employment serves to limit how many of their employees can afford the insurance.
A company of that size should be able to fund adequate insurance for it's employees, wouldn't you say? If we are going to insist on employer-sponsored health insurance as our national healthcare plan, we should also note this about the government entitlement programs everyone loves to hate .... whereby taxpayers kick in substantial financial support for the world's largest retailer... food for thought..
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| Name: |
water_watcher
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Wal-Mart vs Government
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1/24/2011 6:09:33 AM
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I think your information is dated. Wal-Mart has significantly improved the healthcare they provide employees. Keep in mind of the 1.6 million people they employee, not all are full time employees. I am not aware of any company that provides healthcare to part time employees, but Wal-Mart does have a very cost effective package they can purchase. Some have coverage from their spouse and some choose not to have coverage.
I know it is common for employers to provide health coverage with a co-pay to their employees .... but I for one have never felt it is an "employers" responsibility to provide coverage. Why? Do they provide home owners or renters insurance? Do they provide auto insurance so you can drive to work?
It should be the individuals responsibility to care about themselves and their family to provide coverage ... and yes I feel rates should be based on the lifestayle of the person. You pay more if you smoke or over weight. But coverage can not be denied and if below a certain income level they can have government subsidized assistance for health care. But heathcare itself should be run by and stay in the private sector.
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architect
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Copperlin
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1/24/2011 7:35:43 AM
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You make good points and I believe your info is on target. Now, during the healthcare debate I stated on this forum that individuals, not employers, should be responsible for health coverage. WW and I agree there. The only way that works is for coverage to be manditory. Well.... the first thing most of the posters on the forum want to go from "Obamacare" is the manditory part! Either they prefer that the taxpayers continue to pay the costs for the uninsured or they want the uninsured child struck by a drunk driver to expire in the street. Sorry, but those are the only two real alternatives.
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water_watcher
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Copperlin
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1/24/2011 9:29:47 AM
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Glad you found something we agree on ... but that is not the only two choices as you say. I am not in favor of any government progrom that takes away freedom of choice.
As I said ... if you are in a certain income bracket or unemployed, I would support some sort of government subsidy ... but it is still the individuals choice. I also favor incentives for good health. Make people responsible for their health rather than the next pill to fix them.
Lastly ... if someone chooses not to have health insurance and they get sick or in an accident that they would be responsible for ... then of course they are still treated, but, the hospital/doctors would have a right to garnish their wages, take property, put a lien on their estate etc ... for not purchasing insurance.
You make the penalty great, but you still give them freedom of choice, but you make the right choice the better alternative.
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