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Talullahhound
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Another Republican Bites the dust
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2/9/2011 7:27:58 PM
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Christopher Lee (R-NY) resigned today after a semi-nude picture that he sent to a woman he met on Craigslist was made public. Of course, Lee is married and has a family. Of course, he is very sorry.
So much for family values. This is why the mouthing of Conservative platitudes leaves me cold.
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MAJ USA RET
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Another Republican Bites the dust
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2/9/2011 7:57:31 PM
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We don't need this kind of cr... crud. He should be gone if he's guilty! That's the difference between GOP and DEMs.
The DEMs deny, deny, deny... and then obfuscate. Shame and dishonor are foreign concepts to them.
The GOP cleans house. American people... take notice!
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GoneFishin
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Hey Maj
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2/9/2011 8:06:28 PM
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Sen. John Ensign (Nev.), considered a rising star in the Republican Party acknowledged in 2009 an extramarital affair with a former campaign staffer who is married to one of the lawmaker's former legislative aides. Yet, he did not resign and plans to run in 2012. So much for your theory about cleaning house.
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MartiniMan
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Another Republican Bites the dust
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2/9/2011 8:17:40 PM
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Yeah, its better to have no values whatsoever so you never have to be held to account when human failings take over. It's better to be openly amoral or immoral so you can never be called a hyopcrite. Gee, I thought from the Clinton years that sex was a personal matter.
At least he had the decency to resign.....if he were a Democrat it would be a resume enhancer.
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water_watcher
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Another Republican Bites the dust
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2/9/2011 8:20:26 PM
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yawn ....
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Barneget
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Another Republican Bites the dust
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2/9/2011 10:09:22 PM
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An elected representative of the people holding himself accountable for his sins. Imagine what our city, county, state, country would be like if only the millions of "dedicated" career civil servants were held to, or held themselves to, a similar standard. And yes, I recognize the difference between being elected to a position of trust vs appointed to a position of trust. Why would you open fire from an indefensable position? Why would you cast stones at a Republican rep when your prior posts actively defended members of the other party, guilty of even greater sin? Or fail to critically identify (in other words, ignore) the moral transgressions of elected Democrats? Even GF has demonstrated limited capacity for fair and balanced. You, not nearly.
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Talullahhound
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Another Republican Bites the dust
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2/9/2011 11:20:40 PM
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I have never defended this kind of behavior of an elected official. Do I think that people's personal life should be public fodder -- no, I don't. Because I personally don't care whether they chose to cheat on their wives or not. That's between them and their wife.
But, when you stand on the high moral ground in public, you better be standing very, very securely. I'm personally very tired of Republicans taking the high moral tone of family values when their behavior is indicative of a very different set of moral principles. BTW, not to mix threads, but don't forget that Newt in his day also cheated on his wife.
I personally find this man's behavior very sad. Did he not think this would be made public??? Nothing sadder than a middle aged man making a fool of himself in public. I hope his wife is smart enough to dump the fool.
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Pontoonfisher
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Another Republican Bites the dust
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2/10/2011 7:25:32 AM
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Hound, are you kidding me??? Give me a break. Didn't the previuos Democratic president use a cigar to do a cavity search on an aid. Both parties are full of dirtbags. Their policies are fueled by self interest and greed. I have zero faith in either party. They should all be replaced with common people who have common sense, integrity, and values.
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lamont
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Hypocrisy at it's finest
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2/10/2011 9:48:53 AM
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So, a Repulican gets caught with his pants down. Result... resignation. A Democrat gets caught with his pants down. Result.... overwhelming reelection. See Barney Frank, etc. Great post Hound.
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Talullahhound
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Lamont
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2/10/2011 10:06:30 AM
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You are missing the point. I don't think Barney Franks makes high moral ground his platform. My point is that if you are going to stand on high moral ground, you better be prepared to walk the walk. I'm not necessarily defending Democrats -- but I'm taking issues with Republicans who walk on the high moral ground when their personal life won't support it. I don't think most Democrats go down that road.
And yes, Bill Clinton's personal life was/is disgusting. But, I don't think he ever embraced the "family values" platform either.
I feel very cynical about most of the politicians in DC. They are an arrogant bunch. I'm very much in favor of taking Congressional members down from their royal throne, and bring them back to reality.
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lamont
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Missing the point?
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2/10/2011 11:16:47 AM
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Don't think so. Why is it you think just Republicans should be held to a higher standard? I don't recall this guy making some speech about morals. It is funny to me because you seem to think that, just because he is a Republican, he should be held to a higher standard. In my book, there is 1 standard and we all, Republican and Democrat, fall short. Just my humble opinion.
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Talullahhound
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Missing the point?
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2/10/2011 11:35:36 AM
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From what I am reading, he repeatedly appeared with his wife and son at campaign. So to me, that indicates that he is making a point about being a "family man".
What I'm saying and I guess I'm not being clear enough -- is that ANYONE that runs a campaign on family values better be walking the walk. The reason I'm taking out Republicans specifically on this point is because they all seem to run on this "FAMILY VALUES" platform. The man IS a Republican.
I'm not sure if I heard it correctly this morning, but I think I heard that this particular person has been vocal about awareness that what kids post on Facebook can follow them for a long time... Do you think he thought about that when he sent some woman that he had never met personally his half naked picture? Do you think he ever considered the possibility that he was being set up?
My hat is off to Boehner, who apparently made him resign. Not clear that he would have done so without pressure.
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lamont
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My Point Exactly....
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2/10/2011 12:07:14 PM
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Repubs. resign. Dems continue to run and get reelected in a landslide. Go figure.
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MartiniMan
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My Point Exactly....
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2/10/2011 12:13:36 PM
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As I said Lamont, infidelity, sex with an intern, etc. are all resume enhancers for Dems.......
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lamont
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My Gawd Hound......
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2/10/2011 12:28:29 PM
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Do you ever see a "politician" campaigning without his "cute" family? I really didn't know only Republicans did this. Thanks for the info.
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GoneFishin
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Pathetic
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2/10/2011 2:38:51 PM
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Lee puts student safety first while he trolls Craigslist topless. A man with strong family values who cosponsored the "Putting Student Safety First" bill in 2009. From his website:
Successful schools are safe havens for learning. Every few months, however, the media reports that a teacher, substitute, or coach has made inappropriate sexual advances toward one of our students, right here at home. We need to work together and take serious steps now to prevent these menacing acts.
That’s why I recently partnered with Congressman Adam Putnam (R-FL) to introduce the Student Protection Act of 2009, which provides state, local, and private school officials with the tools they need to keep sex offenders from ever setting foot in a classroom again.
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MartiniMan
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That's rich GF
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2/10/2011 2:42:55 PM
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And how is that related to his sending a picture to an adult woman? Man, you voted for Clinton twice and he was carrying on with an intern who was barely and adult and this you find pathetic? Wow!
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comrade
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Pathetic
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2/10/2011 2:45:26 PM
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LIke all those hypocrites who want to keep 12 year olds from drinking and smoking weed!!
We need to take em down!!!!
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What I'm trying to figure out why all of you are so intent on defending this guy????
It is a "middle aged guy" thing?
Instead,you want to attack me. What have I said that it not factual?
He is a Republican
He resigned (bit the dust)
He sent a half naked picture of himself to a woman he contacted on Craig's List.
He is married and has a young son.
He has led the public to believe he is a "family man"
I did not say that Democrats are more moral. I didn't say that Republicans commit or attempt to commit adultry more often than Democrats.
So what are you attacking me about? What do you disagree with? I never made any comparisons between Republicans and Democrats. You brought that up.
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| Name: |
lamont
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Your Slant....
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2/10/2011 4:25:30 PM
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Is quite evident.
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| Name: |
Talullahhound
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Don't have a slant
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2/10/2011 4:30:57 PM
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except apparently in the minds of a few people here. I just don't wholeheartedly embrace Republicans because they are Republicans.
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lamont
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Obviously
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2/10/2011 4:35:06 PM
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MrHodja
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Don't have a slant
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2/10/2011 11:05:01 PM
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What's in a name...there are definitely Repubs I don't endorse...Prince of Pork Shelby being one. The question I would have to you is this: do you embrace stated Republican values? Please don't get off on a slant and talk about those individuals carrying the name Republican but not living up to Republican values...I am curious whether you favor those stated Republican values/objectives/approaches to Government versus the Democrats' welfare state approach.
Nasreddin Hodja
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lotowner
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Don't have a slant
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2/11/2011 8:36:40 AM
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The one thing that's known about Hound - She does not like Sarah Palin and voted for Obama. She has in the past made some post that had conservative leanings. However, in real life, she might be a big time liberal. I'll bet she gave supervision he&^ when she had a different opinion on a policy.I do not know her personally but I suspect that she had great work experience prior to retirement. She understands Washington. With more experience on this forum, I believe that she can be converted to conservative principles.
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Talullahhound
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Don't have a slant
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2/11/2011 10:24:47 AM
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You know, I'm really a mixture. I'm definitely a fiscal conservative. I'm not in favor of a big government, and I don't think more government is the solution to the problems. I don't believe you can legislate people's behavior. I didn't necessarily support the bailouts, but I don't think I know enough to say 100% it wasn't necessary. I'm very skeptical of the amount of "charity" that the US gives out to foreign countries. I think we need to consider the quid pro quo.
But in some ways, I'm a social liberal. I think there are merits to some social programs, particularly as they relate to children and the elderly. I did think that health care needed reform, but not the health care reform that we eventually got. I'd like to see Obamacare scrapped and for them to start again. I'd like to see reforms in malpractice suits.
I'm in favor of a strong policy on immigration. I don't think that illegals should have "rights" to education and healthcare.
I don't necessarily think that tax cuts are the only solution. In fact, about now, I'm in favor of increasing taxes specifically to reduce the deficit.
And of course, I'm in favor of a strong defense, but I see a lot of cuts that could be made. In fact, I read an article this morning by Lawrence Kolb that I found made a lot of sense about defense cuts.
As far as foreign policy, I don't believe that the US can be all things to all people.
I don't think we should mettle in other country's politics. I'm not as strong on Israel as a lot of people, nor am I as hard on the Middle East as some people. But, I think we have to realize that they don't love us and will never love us, no matter what we do.
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MrHodja
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Don't have a slant
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2/11/2011 11:00:59 AM (updated 2/11/2011 11:09:40 AM)
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Thanks for the rundown. We agree on a lot more than not. I tend to not get too wrapped up in details - and thus for instance would say that we should strongly support Israel because I believe in the balance of power concept and they are the only real mitigation against the raghead loonies -that's a technical term by the way :>) - over there.
I would add that I am livid at the way income taxes are abused....I have a friend who owns a pawn shop and runs a tax prep shop in the projects on the side. The stories I hear are mind-boggling. I don't have a problem with low income people having a light to zero tax burden - but do have a problem with the rest of us taxpayers paying them for not making money.
Unfortunately hypocrisy among politicians is party-blind, and far too many on both sides of the aisle talk the talk but don't walk the walk.
I wonder if we could get a similar rundown from GF....that might be asking too much.
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MrHodja
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LMAO (nt)
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2/11/2011 10:09:57 PM
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