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Name:   lotowner - Email Member
Subject:   Slow Down or Self Destruct
Date:   4/5/2011 8:31:54 AM

This country is faced with a dilemma - Control spending or Bankrupt!

US Spent MoreThan 8 Times Revenue in March

Tuesday, 05 Apr 2011 08:02 AM

 
 
The U.S. Treasury has released a final statement for the month of March that demonstrates that financial madness has gripped the federal government.

During the month, according to the Treasury, the federal government grossed $194 billion in tax revenue and paid out $65.898 billion in tax refunds (including $62.011 to individuals and $3.887 to businesses) thus netting $128.179 billion in tax revenue for March.

At the same, the Treasury paid out a total of $1.1187 trillion. When the $65.898 billion in tax refunds is deducted from that, the Treasury paid a net of $1.0528 trillion in federal expenses for March.

That $1.0528 trillion in spending for March equaled 8.2 times the $128.179 in net federal tax revenue for the month.

The lion’s share of this federal spending went to redeem Treasury securities that had matured during the month—most of which were short-term Treasury bills that have terms of one-year or less.

In fact, during March the Treasury redeemed $705.3 billion in Treasury securities of which $623.9 billion were short-term bills with a term of one year or less.

After the disbursements made to pay off the $705.3 billion in loans that came due in March, three of the other top four federal spending items for the month were entitlements programs. The other top item was payments to defense contractors.

The Treasury paid $49.8 billion in Social Security benefits in March, $47.4 billion in Medicare benefits, and $22.575 billion in Medicaid benefits. It also paid $37.9 billion to defense contractors.

To help pay off its $1.0528 trillion in monthly bills on only $128.179 in monthly tax revenue, the Treasury turned primarily to new borrowing. During the month, according to the Treasury statement, the government sold $786.5 billion in new securities. It also drew down its cash balance from $190.6 billion at the beginning of the month to $118.1 billion at the end of the month. It also reaped $18 billion from the sale of assets in the Troubled Asset Relief Program.

The federal government’s cash-flow situation was summed up pungently in Senate Budget Committee testimony by Erskine Bowles, who served as chief of staff to President Bill Clinton and is now the co-chair of President Barack Obama’s National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility.

“I'm really concerned,” Bowles told the committee last month. “I think we face the most predictable economic crisis in history. A lot of us sitting in this room didn't see this last crisis as it came upon us. But this one is really easy to see. The fiscal path we are on today is simply not sustainable.

“This debt and these deficits that we are incurring on an annual basis are like a cancer and they are truly going to destroy this country from within unless we have the common sense to do something about it,” said Bowles.

“I used to say that I got into this thing for my grandchildren,” Bowles said. “I have eight grandchildren under five years old. I'll have one more in a week. And my life is wonderful and it is wild. But this problem is going to happen long before my grandchildren grow up.

“This problem is going to happen, like the former chairman of the Fed said, or the Moody's said, this is a problem we're going to have to face up,” he said. “It may be two years, you know, maybe a little less, maybe a little more. But if our bankers over there in Asia begin to believe that we're not going to be solid on our debt, that we're not going to be able to meet our obligations, just stop and think for a minute what happens if they just stop buying our debt.

“What happens to interest rates?” asked Bowles. “And what happens to the U.S. economy? The markets will absolutely devastate us if we don't step up to this problem. The problem is real, the solutions are painful, and we have to act.”



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Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   Slow Down or Self Destruct
Date:   4/5/2011 9:23:59 AM

I don't think a snapshot of one month is necessarily a useful tool. Show me a quarter and I'll pay attention.



Name:   MAJ USA RET - Email Member
Subject:   Slow Down or Self Destruct
Date:   4/5/2011 9:37:20 AM

I make it a practice to think before I reply.





Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   Slow Down or Self Destruct
Date:   4/5/2011 9:45:20 AM

Are you saying that you think that one month is necessarily a good snapshot? If we looked at your own budget expenditures, say for the month of April (federal taxes and quarterly payments are due) that it would be a good snapshot of your own expenditures? My point is that it is only a snapshot and not useful for making conclusions.



Name:   MAJ USA RET - Email Member
Subject:   Slow Down or Self Destruct
Date:   4/5/2011 9:56:48 AM

Okay... you don't get it.  YES, this was only a snapshot.  But, it is a snapshot among myriads of snapshots of the same fiscal train wreck in progress.  You should see that it is confirmatory. Is it a seasonal spike?  Yes, it is… on an upwardly accelerating debt crisis.  Do you seriously think this problem is going to get better?  Don’t be the last one to get a grip on reality.





Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   Slow Down or Self Destruct
Date:   4/5/2011 10:30:45 AM

I get it. But, we've been on this path for a long time. So why is it suddenly "imperative" that we do something now? You want to fix the problem? Raise taxes AND cut entitlements. Now you are going to give me the speech about how raising taxes will derail any kind of economic recovery.... When conservatives tell me that they want to do something, I tell them to raise taxes and we'll cut entitlements.



Name:   MAJ USA RET - Email Member
Subject:   Slow Down or Self Destruct
Date:   4/5/2011 12:00:23 PM (updated 4/5/2011 12:02:07 PM)

So, your position is that taking more money out of the economy and investing it in government is the way to resolve the deficit. 

 

My position is to cut the amount of money available to the Federal Government and require that the remaining funds be used more effectively.  History shows that the Federal Government does not use increased funding wisely.

Look at what a mess the government has made of the economy already.  Why should we trust them with more?





Name:   Barneget - Email Member
Subject:   Slow Down or Self Destruct
Date:   4/5/2011 12:01:54 PM

Hound, here is a challenge. You list the taxes you would raise, and the projected revenue increases, and I will list, and link, the entitlement programs and departmental spending that warrants attention, and the identified savings.



Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   You are wasting your time
Date:   4/5/2011 12:10:16 PM

Hound has totally bought into the discredited belief that raising taxes actually increases revenue to the treasury despite all evidence to the contrary. And yes, she actually thinks it is better to take money from the productive and give it to the government. After all, look how well it worked out for her.



Name:   MAJ USA RET - Email Member
Subject:   You are wasting your time
Date:   4/5/2011 12:15:20 PM

I believe her premise is:  “First, give me more money… and then, I promise to cut spending.”





Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   You are wasting your time
Date:   4/5/2011 12:27:53 PM

Yeah, and we have all seen how that works with government. Sadly, she represents way too many in the electorate. And obviously this is exactly why Demoncrats want more people dependent upon the government. Its what de Toqueville stated so well in his book about democracy in America.



Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   You are wasting your time
Date:   4/5/2011 1:02:48 PM

I'm not saying first, give me the money. I'm saying we'll do both simultaneously. And no, not give it to the government -- earmark it specifically for deficit reduction, with no "borrowing" rights. Then in a few years, when the deficit it gone, we'll talk about lowering taxes. That way, everyone suffers and benefits equally.



Name:   lamont - Email Member
Subject:   "Earmarks" and "No Borrowing Rights"
Date:   4/5/2011 1:10:10 PM

Yeah.... that's the ticket. I'm totally sure our elected officials will uphold that concept. Please wake me when this thread is over.



Name:   water_watcher - Email Member
Subject:   hound
Date:   4/5/2011 1:25:12 PM

you have a couple years and the picture is the same.



Name:   water_watcher - Email Member
Subject:   "Earmarks" and "No Borrowing Rights"
Date:   4/5/2011 1:33:41 PM

If they don't cut spending and we claim higher taxes are for deficit reduction, all that will happen is we keep borrowing more than is being paid to reduce the deficit. This is typical government logic, like creating a government job helps the economy just like creating a private sector job. Nope, that is a drain on the economy. We need massive cuts and limits on entitilements. It is a spending problem. If we cut spending agressively and after 3 years we still need more revenue, then have a tax discussion - but a new approach to taxes like a flat tax or the fair tax. Which by the way allows a big dent in the federal budget by significantly reducing the IRS by getting rid of the complex tax structure.



Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   You are wasting your time
Date:   4/5/2011 1:52:32 PM

Everyone suffers and benefits at the same time. That's a good one. If you want everyone to really suffer how about this idea, lets make sure every single working American pays federal taxes regardless of income. That seems to me under your template to be fair. Just shy of 50% of American workers pay no federal income taxes. Lets get them some skin in the game.



Name:   Talullahhound - Email Member
Subject:   "Earmarks" and "No Borrowing Rights"
Date:   4/5/2011 2:20:02 PM

If I'm increasing revenue and cutting spending, why do I need to keep borrowing? Seems like that is what the financial planners advise people on how to get out of debt.



Name:   lamont - Email Member
Subject:   But, But, But.....
Date:   4/5/2011 2:26:22 PM

your way of increasing revenues has been proven wrong time and time again.







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