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Lifer
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13 Gun rules
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2/16/2012 11:18:03 AM
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1. Guns have only two enemies rust and politicians.
2. It’s always better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
3. Cops carry guns to protect themselves, not you.
4. Never let someone or something that threatens you get inside arms length.
5. Never say, “I’ve got a gun.” If you need to use deadly force, the first sound they hear should be the safety clicking off.
6. The average response time of a 911 call is 23 minutes; the response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second.
7. The most important rule in a gunfight is: Always win – cheat if necessary.
8. Make your attacker advance through a wall of bullets . . . You may
get killed with your own gun, but he’ll have to beat you to death with
it, because it’ll be empty.
9. If you’re in a gunfight:
- If you’re not shooting, you should be loading.
- If you’re not loading, you should be moving.
- If you’re not moving, you’re dead.
10. In a life and death situation, do something . . . It may be wrong, but do something!
11. If you carry a gun, people call you paranoid. Nonsense! If you have a gun, what do you have to be paranoid about?
12. You can say ‘stop’ or ‘alto’ or any other word, but a large bore
muzzle pointed at someone’s head is pretty much a universal language.
13. You cannot save the planet, but you may be able to save yourself and your family.
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Talullahhound
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13 Gun rules
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2/16/2012 12:15:46 PM
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Considering the increase in home invasions, anyone who doesn't keep at least one gun in the house is crazy. And nothing is more useless than a gun stored unloaded in it's box on the shelf of the bedroom closet. People need to teach their children about guns. Anything that is locked away will invoke curiosity.
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MartiniMan
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My 14th rule
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2/16/2012 3:32:19 PM
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Great list for sure. My Dad always used to tell us to never pull a gun unless you were prepared to use it. He also told us constantly there is no such thing as an empty gun or the variant, I can't tell you how many people have been killed by an empty gun.
Here's my personal addition to the list.
If you break into my house and I chamber a shell in my 12 gauge tactical shotgun, you better be prepared to wipe up that yellow water you left on my floor before you run screaming into the night.
Hope I never need it but it is right there under my bed just in case.
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MartiniMan
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Great point.....
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2/16/2012 3:34:01 PM
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Just curious about the comment on home invasions. Is that specific to the Lake Martin area or a generalization? I had not heard that there was an increase but would not doubt it.......
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Talullahhound
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Great point.....
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2/16/2012 6:14:16 PM
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Not at Lake Martin specifically, but there seems to be a rash in Montgomery. Maybe Hodja knows more about it than I do, since he lives over that way.
I believe in being prepared. As a full time resident on Lake Martin, we can't afford to be unprepared.
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MrHodja
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Great point.....
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2/16/2012 7:05:06 PM (updated 2/16/2012 7:08:52 PM)
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The home invasion problem in Montgomery, leaving out drug-related tiffs, has primarily been targeted toward Hispanics, because they are less likely to use banks and known to keep large sums of cash in their homes. The immigraton bill has put a bit of a damper on that because it flushed the illegals to neighboring states. Now it seems mosty to be drug-related, and usually someone dies.
I think we just had our third homicide of the year....starting off with a "bang" (pun intended, although it isn't a laughing matter).
Had some info on this post the first time I posted it that I decided would be better not said, so pulled it back and deleted the information that a miscreant lurker might use to advantage...... this IS public forum.
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Talullahhound
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Great point.....
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2/16/2012 7:47:24 PM
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I was led to believe that there may have been some in WynLakes and Deer Creek. At least that is what the women in the salon that I go to on Vaugh Rd. have said. Don't know if it is rumor or true.
We came home one evening to find a car driving slowly down our little street. When he saw our car coming, he turned around and took off past us. Checked with my next door neighbors and it wasn't anyone visiting them.
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Mack
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Maybe a 15th Rule??
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2/16/2012 7:48:11 PM
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Be prepared to absorb the emotional impact of taking a human life willingly or intentionally.
Yep, I have guns around me for self defense/home invasion, even in a vehicle sometimes. And, I convince myself that I would use a weapon for a valid reason. But, there could be a downside to actually doing it.
Got a close buddy who did his duty in the late 60"s in you know where. He walked in some deep DooDoo for a year, killed some folks, etc, etc, etc. Will not talk to me about specifics. He still attends shrink sessions at the VA to overcome the fallout. Veterans of WW2 who were intimately involved in killing will not talk to a civilian about it either. Justified or not, there is damage.
Not saying don't defend your home/property. Butting popping somebody apparently has a price tag.
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MrHodja
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Great point.....
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2/16/2012 7:53:11 PM
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You are right - there was one incident in Deer Creek that did make the paper.
Does Doy do your hair?
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GoneFishin
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Question
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2/16/2012 7:57:29 PM (updated 2/16/2012 7:59:07 PM)
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At what age should a child be before you are willing to keep a loaded gun under the bed that is ready to fire?
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Talullahhound
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Great point.....
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2/16/2012 8:53:02 PM
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No, Chanlee at Waylon Joseph.
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MartiniMan
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Question
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2/16/2012 10:06:41 PM
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My youngest was 15 before I did that. My kids are also very mature and extremely well behaved (straight A's, etc.) so there was very little risk. Younger kids or ones with behavior problems and I would do something different. Of course my oldest son also has a shotgun in his room that he uses for skeet shooting. All sorts of bad things can happen if you invade my home.
But for you GF, all I will have is a cold beer or a nice glass of wine.
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MrHodja
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Great point.....
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2/16/2012 10:37:29 PM
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Just thought it might be hilarious if you were to use the same hairdresser as my wife. I use Henry Nobles at Eastbrook Barber Shop. The guy has been cutting hair at the same location for 52 YEARS.....now that's stability. I just hope he doesn't meet his maker coincidentally with shaving my neck...:>)
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Talullahhound
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Great point.....
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2/17/2012 6:55:53 AM
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LOL. I wonder why so many barbers (what few there are left) tend to stay in business for so long. I know my father went to the same barber for all his years in NJ.
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MrHodja
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Great point.....
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2/17/2012 8:08:03 AM
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Seems the ones who stay in busines are the ones who cut hair to the "old fashioned" appearance, where it is almost impossible to hide a screw-up. Some of the modern mops could have been done with hedge clippers and you wouldn't know if it was a bad haircut or just "the style"....:>)
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MAJ USA RET
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Great point.....
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2/17/2012 8:31:18 AM
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I sport the “Andy Warhol” look now. (Einstein cultured that look!)
No one took me seriously when I had a normal haircut and weighed 200 lbs. (Rule 29 - People look away from fat people as if they don’t exist.)
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MartiniMan
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That's why I hope to never need it
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2/17/2012 11:10:02 AM
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But frankly what would give you more emotional baggage, killing some intruder in your home or not being able to defend your family? I will take the former over the latter any day and I would guess you are in the same boat.
As for the emotional damage, my Dad was in the infantry in Korea and rarely told stories but when he did you could tell there were scars. But he carried a gun in his car when he traveled and I guarantee he would have used it. Only close call was when he was in Detroit on business in the 60's and happened along a protest. He tried to drive through slowly but people would not get out of his way and then started to beat on his car and try to open the doors. He pulled out his 45, chambered it and reached over and unlocked the passenger door. The crowd just slowly parted as word got out and he drove through. Said afterwards he was scared shi!less but it was the only thing he could think of to do at the time.
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Old Diver
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That's why I hope to never need it
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2/18/2012 1:47:04 AM
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Here is how I handled the problem of kids and guns.
I always told my son that if he wished to see any firearm in the house all he had to do was ask. I would make sure it was unloaded and allow him to see it. I also told him that if he ever touched one without permission that I would wear him out
As a further precaution I kept a 1911, mag full and chamber empty. He was old enough to know better before he could pull the slide back.
When he grew up I asked him if he ever slipped around and handled a firearm without permission? He said no, he didn't have to risk getting his butt beat, All he had to do was ask.
We shot, hunted, reloaded fished together. And as a single parent we bonded well. Perhap,s though, I got him too interested in firearms: he plays with 155's now.
Another idea for home defense is to keep a firearm in both ends of the house. That way you cannot be blocked access to a firearm by an intruder.
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MAJ USA RET
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That's why I hope to never need it
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2/18/2012 10:21:01 AM
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1 - Thank you, Old Diver for YOUR SERVICE!
2 - Thank your son, on my behalf, for HIS SERVICE!
3 - Thank you, Old Diver for some very good advice!
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