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GoneFishin
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This Should Help Santorum
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2/16/2012 6:46:24 PM
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lose the female vote. I have to think wing nuts just cringe when they hear this. Money sure can't buy class.
Rick Santorum backer Foster Friess shocked MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell into silence when he told her, "Back in my days, they used Bayer Aspirin for contraceptives -- the gals put it between their knees and it wasn't that costly." He was trying to minimize the fuss everyone is making over Santorum's opposition to birth control, but the remark has only made more of a ruckus.
OBAMA 2012..................
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Talullahhound
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This Should Help Santorum
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2/16/2012 7:40:35 PM
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It's hard to believe we are even having this conversation in 2012. Next they'll decide that woman should not be allowed to divorce. And then women shouldn't be allowed in the workplace.
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Barneget
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This Should Help Clarify
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2/16/2012 9:09:40 PM
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You want contraceptives, buy them. Or, new approach. Have taxpayers provide contraceptives, pill for females and condoms for males, BUT 9 months from the day that starts, taxpayers no longer provide any funding, at any level except for education, for babies born from that date forward. No WIC, no CCTC, no increase in housing supplements, no Medicaid, no EITC, no stamps, no free breakfast and lunch, no deduction for dependents. Meantime, you two can lose yourselves in the aspirin conversation while people with good sense shake their heads and ask where will my responsibility for others actions end? If you had any friends who attended Catholic schools, they ALL heard the "aspirin between the knees is effective birth control" story. They even used that at public schools in Catholic towns.
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Talullahhound
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This Should Help Clarify
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2/16/2012 9:39:02 PM
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I grew up Catholic, so I've heard it before. It wasn't realistic then, and it certainly isn't now.
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Barneget
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This Should Help Clarify
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2/16/2012 9:43:44 PM
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It works.
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it works about as well as telling a man to "keep it in his pants".
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MartiniMan
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Yawn..........
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2/17/2012 8:31:36 AM
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GF, try as you might Maj is right. No one cares about these issues and none of the GOP candidates are going to take away your precious contraceptives. This election is going to be about the economy and on that score the Messiah has a challenging task. He will have to try to talk about just about anything else and it won't work. In fact, the more you talk about this the more inclined I am to vote for Romney. It tells me that Dems want to change the subject away from the abject failure they support and try to scare women. I for one give them more credit and think they have the intelligence to figure that one out.......Hound of course being the exception as she is now apparently afraid they are not only going to take away contraceptives but the right to work at night. Intelligent, thoughtful women know better........
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MAJ USA RET
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Exception
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2/17/2012 8:38:15 AM
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(I try to stay off of Fishy’s threads… unless they take an intelligent turn.)
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Talullahhound
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Yawn..........
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2/17/2012 9:09:06 AM
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I'm not sure what you intended by your comment.
I am concerned about the GOP's seeming attack on women's rights. I don't think a political agenda belongs in anyone's medicine cabinet or Drs. office. Women take birth control pills for a variety of health issues, not just to prevent pregnancy. They can be prescribed to regulate menstual cycles and to deal with hornmonal issues.
I am a firm believer in women's rights as equal human beings, which includes a woman's right to health care.
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MrHodja
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Yawn..........
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2/17/2012 9:21:58 AM
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I don't think that Republicans are assaulting women's rights. Obama just threw a stink bomb and they are reacting - but not as the liberals would have you believe. As an example I saw a snippet of an interview with Santorum yesterday and then a piece last night with Allan Colmes. The Colmes characterization of what Santorum said and believes is a polar opposite of what Santorum really said. Somehow the statement that the states have a right to ban contraceptives was interpreted as Santorum wanting to ban contraceptives. Does not compute. If you have any direct quotes that support your view I would be interested in seeing them, because I haven't decided who to vote for in the primary, and I do believe that women should have the right to contraceptives. I, as you, grew up as a Roman Catholic, and in 1967 had to go through "marriage counseling" before we could get married in the church. That counseling was done with a priest in Gulfport Mississippi, who happened to be a transplanted Irishman. You should have seen his jaw drop when I just flat told him my wife would be on the pill....
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MartiniMan
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Good grief!
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2/17/2012 9:30:25 AM
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The GOP is NOT attacking women's rights. Take a breath, calm down, stop getting your news from pMSNBS. No one in the GOP is interested in banning contraception. Honestly Hound, sometimes you are so illogical and easily fooled I am amazed. Watch Romney's response in the ABC debate.......educate yourself instead of being spoon fed drivel from the government media.
The only reason this is an issue at all is because of the HHS mandate forcing religious organizations to pay for something they find morally objectionable. That violates their religious freedom. Women are still free to contracept away to their heart's content. These organizations just don't want to be forced to pay for it. If it is important to have free contraception then go work somewhere else.
GF must be laughing his backside off at your hand wringing over this......... talk about gullible.....good grief.
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MartiniMan
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My point exactly
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2/17/2012 9:56:50 AM
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People like Hound get their ideas about what is being said spoon fed to them by the government media and they just blindly accept what they hear. So now she is wringing her hands, wailing and gnashing her teeth that those mean, misogynistic Republicans want to keep her pregnant and in the kitchen totally helpless and abused. That despite all evidence to the contrary but don't let facts and logic get in the way of a good hysteria.
This is why women should not be allowed to vote unless they own land......they should just stick to crying and shopping....oops.....there I go again perpetuating another myth about Republicans. LOL
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Talullahhound
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Yawn..........
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2/17/2012 6:42:24 PM
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I saw some snippets of past interviews with Santorum where he said he was opposed to birth control. Then I think I heard (this was around the time of my first cup of coffee) that he said that he would not impose his personal beliefs if he were elected.
And supposedly, the guy that is a Santorum supporter that made the remark about the asprin thought he was making a joke. It fell pretty flat, but after seeing the clip, I'm convinced that he really did think he was being funny. I don't blame Santorum for what this guy said, either.
Obviously, I don't agree with the objections of the Catholic Church to refuse to pay for benefits that include birth control. I also believe in a woman's right to choose. I understand that not everyone feels that way and to them I would say that it is their choice not to use birth control and not have an abortion, if that is what they believe. I believe that even poor women have a right to mammograms and other basic health services. I strongly disagreed with Komen's decision (now reversed)to withdraw contributions to Planned Parenthood. Apparently the VP that was pushing that particular agenda has since resigned. As it is, I will never give another dime to Komen (and in the past I have donated quite a bit to them). There are other organizations that support breast cancer research and don't want to attach a political agenda to their contributions to women's health. And yes, I support stem cell research too.
I think each person has to live their lives in accordance to their beliefs. If it is a couple's desire not to use birth control and they are able to support the children that they have to a standard that they are satisfied with, then so be it. But, if others do decide to use birth control, then that is between them, their Dr. and God.
Now before anyone decides to write a diatribe about why I'm wrong, please don't bother. You will not change my mind, any more than I will change yours. (And yes, I do believe in Capital Punishment too).
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Talullahhound
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My point exactly
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2/17/2012 6:45:31 PM
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Well, I spend quite a bit of time in the kitchen and I am also a land owner, so I guess by MM's criteria, I'm okay to vote.
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Talullahhound
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Good grief!
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2/17/2012 6:56:33 PM
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I can assure you I am not wringing my hands. I am contacting my representatives, writing letters, and I do plan to vote.
If you can broaden your scope a bit beyond Georgia and Alabama, you would see what women such as myself are working against. There are broad based initiatives sponsored by Republicans in a number of states that are attempting to restrict women's rights to health care. The Komen decision (now reversed) against Planned Parenthood is just the beginning. Well, that turned out to be a politically based initiative based on one Republican woman -- and when they realized how that was going to have an effect on their future bottom line, they got rid of that woman and reversed their decision.
And that has nothing to do with "government media" (although I still have no idea exactly what that is. MSNBC is no more "government media" than Faux News.
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MartiniMan
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So you really are a libtard
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2/17/2012 9:02:16 PM
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Hound, the truth is out about you now and I love it. You are truly a left wing feminist libtard. At least Archie and GF are honest about who they really are. But not you....you wrap yourself in the faux flag of being an independent. What a hoot..... Write all the letters and make all the calls you want. You will be joined by the left wing nut feminazis in writing a bunch of stupid letters and then Romney will be the nominee and you'll be left sputtering about "women's" rights.......well all except the murdered baby girls. They have no right except to be murdered by their mommy's so they won't be burdened by the awful result of sex.
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MartiniMan
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Oops....need to change my criteria
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2/17/2012 9:02:51 PM
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buzzbuster
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2/17/2012 10:13:19 PM (updated 2/17/2012 10:16:15 PM)
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buzzbuster
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2/17/2012 10:14:19 PM (updated 2/17/2012 10:15:48 PM)
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buzzbuster
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Good grief!
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2/17/2012 10:15:07 PM
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Talullahhound, I just knew you would change your mind and vote. I was hoping Oblamer would get at least one less vote. I'm not saying you should'nt vote but was going by what you said in a earlier post.
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Talullahhound
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So you really are a libtard
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2/17/2012 10:18:30 PM
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Feminist yes, very much so. I believe women are equal to men.
I think when men start bearing children then they should have the right to make decisions about reproductive issues.
But, beyond that, it doesn't define me politically. I AM Independent -- very Independent. I vote for the person who I feel is best able to lead the country.
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Talullahhound
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Good grief!
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2/17/2012 10:19:53 PM
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I will vote for the person that I believe will be able to lead our country forward. I am Independent. There are issues I care about, just like you.
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MartiniMan
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Women are not equal to men
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2/18/2012 1:49:39 PM
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When women can impregnate themselves I will consider them equal to men. Unfortunately far too many women are too stupid, weak or immoral to avoid unwanted pregnancies and far too many stupid, weak or immoral men are more than happy to oblige them.
Women are not equal to men and men are not equal to women. We are different and have different strengths and weakness. True in all aspects of life. Anyone who thinks women are better off today than 50 years ago is not paying attention.
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