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architect
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Bless you Copperline!
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4/7/2012 4:34:23 PM (updated 4/7/2012 4:35:58 PM)
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It is such a pleasure in the last couple of months to have the rare opportunity to read another poster on this forum who has an open mind. Your comments seem to be appearing at a greater frequency. That is a delight! If you keep it up you may eventually find yourself tagged as "Un-American, Commie, blame America firster, libtard, sh**head" and maybe even "baby killer"! Wear the insults with pride, I do. And, always remember that this forum demonstrates on a daily basis that the so called experts are wrong...the Neanderthals are not extinct!!
BTW, what is your backgroung and where did you come up with "Copperline"? I figure you might be a plumber.;-)
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copperline
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Bless you Copperline!
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4/7/2012 7:28:04 PM
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Same to you, Architect. I got frustrated and left the forum for a while, then returned after promising myself I would completely refrain from things like sarcasm and be sure to avoid returning personalized attacks. That's improved the tone of replies to my posts a lot, also.... I think the forum has gotten generally more civil, there are fewer personalized attacks now than in the past.
I wouldn't want anybody else to hear me saying this, but there are some small indications that they are becoming more tolerant. ;)
Not a plumber, no. Copperline is just the title of a James Taylor song I can't get out of my head.
Hang in there yourself.
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comrade
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Bless you Copperline!
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4/7/2012 7:35:56 PM
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Kumbayah....
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wix
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CL and Archy
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4/7/2012 7:59:12 PM
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I guess you two would think "people are more civil". You shoot your wad with the first programmed post, then you can't enter into the discussion because you can't think for yourself. Your depth of knowledge on issues won't let you stay in a discussion.
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copperline
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Bless you Copperline!
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4/7/2012 8:00:13 PM
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LMAO, Speaking of names, when I first saw yours.... I thought it was pretty brave. Here, I thought, was likely some liberal so in-your-face that they chose a name right out of the Soviet Revolution. Can't judge a book by it's cover!
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| Name: |
copperline
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Bless you Copperline!
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4/7/2012 8:10:20 PM
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Good hearing from you today, Wix.
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architect
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I rest my case!
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4/7/2012 9:30:22 PM
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GoneFishin
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I rest my case!
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4/7/2012 10:11:15 PM
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Poor Wixie has met his match. Hob Knob and Hodja are quiet like a church mouse. They will appear and comment for a piece of cheese. Water Boy keeps repeating the same Rush propaganda which most have tuned out. That leaves Barnie who spends most of his time climbing a ladder changing gas prices. Finally, Martini had one too many and has not recovered as he sees the handwriting on the wall for 2012 and has moved on to secure his place as a 1%er.
ABO=Again Barack Obama 2012
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MrHodja
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No
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4/7/2012 10:38:19 PM (updated 4/7/2012 10:39:53 PM)
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I won't respond to your bovine shinola because when challenged, you just tuck tail and run.
You aren't worth my time.
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comrade
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I rest my case!
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4/7/2012 10:57:47 PM
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That's what is comforting about you GF- you have it all figured out
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wix
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GF you've come out of hiding.
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4/7/2012 11:11:32 PM
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Welcome back. Cat must've gotten your tongue. Can't venture out alone, huh. You've got some real Wizards in your corner. Get tough and show us some original thoughts, Bubba. That should get you going. Well, I've got to get some sleep, Sun Rise Service in the morning. Night boys.
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Barneget
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That was wrong
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4/7/2012 11:11:43 PM
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No ladders, LED signs with central remote. Think about this. Between 0600 and 1300 today, 7 hours, 7000 gallons sold total (5000 gallons using debit or credit), $700 in bank fees. During the last administration, when the office was held by a US citizen, and before DoddFrank, with the exception of 4 months in 08, my bank fees were half what they are today. I am netting my same penny and banks are gathering an additional $20,000 per month, through me, on the same number of gallons sold. Last trade numbers I saw, just last week, showed 157,000 stores like mine across the US in 2011. Do the math. My calculator says that is north of $8 billion/ year in additional fees paid by consumers as a direct result of this administrations incompetence. That is $4 billion more than the exploration deductions used by the evil BigOil. I am sure that makes you proud of your continuing support for zer0, the commies he surrounds himself with, and their collective understanding of economic basics. As of this post, 287 days, 14 hours and 50 minutes until that worthless America hating GOS and his despicably racist wife step aboard AF II and head home to Kenya. CMA !!!!!
Hey hey ho ho chairman o has got to go. OMG 2012
http://obamaclock.org/
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copperline
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That was wrong
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4/7/2012 11:29:28 PM
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You know, it sounds like your bank has raised their fees and you think this is a govt decision. I think your bank is trying to make profits where they can after the near meltdown.
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MrHodja
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That was wrong
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4/7/2012 11:36:31 PM
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And you'd probably view a tsunami as free water for your garden. I need some of what you're smokin 'cept if I partook I'd lose my clearance.
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Barneget
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That was really wrong
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4/7/2012 11:45:57 PM (updated 4/7/2012 11:47:24 PM)
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No dear copper line ( note the civility). Debit and credit card issuers, for example Visa, MasterCard, Discover, Amex, Fleet, Wright Express among others, charge all merchants accepting their cards fees on every transaction. These fees include a swipe fee plus a percentage of the total transactions. My point is banks are gathering $8 billion more in fees as a result of higher fuel prices, passed through to the consumer. Are you by chance running for Senate in Massachusetts, as a democrat?
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Barneget
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Correction I was REALLY wrong
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4/8/2012 12:00:14 AM (updated 4/8/2012 12:03:01 AM)
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The actual number is greater than $16 billion in higher transaction fees tied to higher fuel prices. I musta been using the democommieprog oblamacare calculator when I broadcast a number that is half the actual. This civility thing must be grabbing aholt of me. In the old days, I would just lay the wrong number lay out there, letting GF set a hook in it, and grab some popcorn while the daffy draftsman blew a circuit. But now, I don't know. I have this strange urge to put a coexist bumper sticker on the truck, right next to my NRA decal, and below the never bring skittles to a gunfight
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| Name: |
copperline
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That was really wrong
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4/8/2012 8:23:47 AM
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OK, so it starts with
gas prices that have soared up, increasing the dollars streaming thru your cash
register which then create more fees for banking services.
Exxon’s qtr’ly
profits were up 41% in the 3rd, and 53% in the 4th qtr of 2011 compared with a
year before, this is based completely on the increase in oil prices, nothing
else. That increase has created by an international
oil market that is driving oil futures up because of Libya, iran, the Middle
East in general and Europe’s future…. it’s the free market at work. When we are benefiting from market conditions, we love your success. When those
conditions change for the worse, everybody looks to the govt to fix the
problem. in between times,
conservatives complain that the govt is interfering too much and causing the
problem to begin with. We live in a global
economy now, oil prices are not decided in Washington.
Conservatives like to
argue that people shouldn’t feel
entitled to govt intervention in their lives, that this is unrealistic, unfair
to the rest of us, and stems from feelings of entitlement. You call it a Welfare Mentality. But when
it’s your ox that’s getting gored, conservatives are just as quick to complain
that some govt intervention is needed to ease their ‘suffering’. Maybe this welfare mentality isn’t just
limited to poor folks.
Think it would be a good idea to cap those banking and oil
company charges, constrain their profits and keep more of your revenue stream for
yourself? Going back to the cabin today, no more internet for a while...
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architect
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See 11:11:43 PM post above
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4/8/2012 9:32:35 AM
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plus several others...I rest my case again!
Sure glad you guys are always "civil", "reasonable" and "restrained" when making reference to the President of the United States.
It is interesting that I cannot recall Hound, GF, Copperline, nor some of the old posters of the less extreme bent (Just a Guy, and Lady for example) ever referring to any of you guys as "Nazi" or "racist" or "haters" or "Klan supporters" or even "redneck".
The civility seems to mostly come from the center and left side of the spectrum.
Just the ravings of Architect, that "Commie, America-hating, baby-killing, s**thead"!
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Barneget
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See 11:11:43 PM post above
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4/8/2012 10:16:22 AM
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That post explains an unintended consequence of the regimes war on domestic petroleum exploration and production, which when coupled with child like international incompetence, is a significant FACTOR in the escalating oil costs. Confused much?
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Barneget
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That was really wrong
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4/8/2012 10:26:31 AM
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My net is flat, and quite happy to be there. Just highlighting yet another consequence of the regimes failures. At the risk of going conspiratorial, is it intended or unintended? Could it be some sort of reward for the biggest financial supporters of this regime? Wow, that kind of stuff is beyond my pay grade.
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architect
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Gee Barn
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4/9/2012 12:18:06 AM
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You could have fooled me...I thought this post angled more toward giving you the chance to call the First Lady a despicable racist and her husband a Kenyan...and you did it in such a "civil" way. None of the reasonable few on this forum to my memory has ever returned in kind the slurs the less reasonable so often use against them...but man its getting hard to uphold that standard when posts such a yours come up!!
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Barneget
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But Arch,
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4/9/2012 12:51:46 AM (updated 4/9/2012 1:00:49 AM)
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noted that you do not appreciate the tone, or the sustained resistance to bowing down before the pretender in chief. There is, however, a conspicuous absence of dispute on the facts. Good day.
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architect
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But Arch,
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4/9/2012 8:31:20 AM (updated 4/9/2012 8:55:13 AM)
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Sorry, were there actually some substantiated facts in your post?...I saw some claimed statistics and lots of opinion but no proven facts other than that you have a considerable dislike for the President and First Lady.
BTW(1): When are you (I think it was you) going to give me some real examples of Obama's "race baiting" I requested a couple of weeks ago? I'm starting to think that the thing you dislike most about your President is the lovely caramel hue of his skin.
BTW(2): When gas hit $4.00+ / gal in the waining months of "Citizen" Bush's term did you post any screeds praising "Big Oil" and damning the actions of "Citizen" Bush?
BTW(3): Here is a fact for you...The President of the USA in 2008 or 2011 has almost no control over the cost of oil. You of all people should know it is market based (to be sure with skewing due to another free market force...speculation). China and India have more than doubled their use of oil in the last 10 years. The demand for oil is rising as the world economy recovers. Tell me this, if a national leader can control the costs and you believe our leader is weak, then why not also blast those other international weaklings in the UK, Germany, Japan, China, etc. They are being subjected to the same high prices...surely Hu Jen Tao, or whoever the current big dog in China is could, pull some strings. I guess you choose not to speak badly of a yellow man when a black man is available.
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Barneget
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Lets have a look
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4/9/2012 10:57:22 AM
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Dearest Archie,
Yes, I do, dislike both, and that is unlikely to change.
Btw1-- yes, when the pretender inserted himself into the Samford FL situation, he baited, and created, once again without any factual basis, a situation that makes it impossible for Zimmerman, you know, the non black guy, to receive either fair coverage, or in the event of an indictment, a fair trial.
Btw2-- former President Bush was at the helm during intense,market driven speculation. The party of you, and the other limited thinkers, were, during those very moments, fighting hard to prevent expanded domestic production, onshore or off. GWB announced his intent to expedite lease sales, and remove bans in discreet areas. His statements alone resulted in a $45 drop/barrel.
Btw3-- the president has no direct control on prices, BUT the administrations positions do. ePA implementing virtually impossible co2 standards, causing closure of some number of power plants, DoI identifying a lizard species as endangered in a peak oil production area, failure to follow court ordered lease sales, canceling XL allowing NAFTA provisions to kick in and all future production priced at world market rate rather than treaty assured discount. Need more? I have them. And no, I actuay think the same of the yellow commie as I do those in the white house. good day (this new civility thing is actually giving me a rush)
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