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GoneFishin
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Sad News For B'ham and Montgomery Residents
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4/11/2012 8:42:43 PM
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Birmingham and Montgomery, Alabama, have sales tax rates of 10 percent, the steepest in the country, said The Tax Foundation, a conservative tax research group.
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MrHodja
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4/11/2012 8:48:29 PM
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Better described a s"sad olds" for Montgomery. Been that percentage for at least 10-15 years. Tell us something new.
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GoneFishin
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4/11/2012 8:59:21 PM
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Do you just accept it or, as a conservative, try to lower it through the political process?
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MrHodja
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4/11/2012 9:03:11 PM
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While I live in Montgomery County I am not a citizen of the city of Montgomery and thus have no say in what the city does.
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Feb
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4/11/2012 9:07:34 PM (updated 4/11/2012 9:09:35 PM)
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I thought it was the only way to get the pound of flesh from the poor. They don't own property and don't make enuff to pay income tax or very little income tax.
This probably explains why they want consider removing sells tax from food products in grocery stores.
This is the State as a whole and not just the two cities mentioned. Somebody please convince me I am off base.
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MrHodja
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4/11/2012 9:14:45 PM
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I don't know the term they use .. "regressive tax"? I agree that it hits the poor much harder percentag-wise than the wealthy. Problem is every time someone tries to raise property taxes, the poor allow themseles to be convinced that schools already have enough money (that would be the subject of a completely different thread) and thus they vote down the property tax increases. I remember vividly my property taxes on a $55K house in Papillion Nebraska being $1700 per year, yet my property taxes in Montgomery County on a house appraises at almost 8 times the house in Nebraska are LESS by several hundred dollars.
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wix
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4/11/2012 10:18:00 PM
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City councils of both ghetto cities have been democrat controlled for years. They love to screw their own people, don't they. Smart people bailed out of city limits in herds. Montgomery has a new Republican mayor, but he still has the democrats for council. Both cities have been in decline for years with no real hope in the future.
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MrHodja
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4/11/2012 10:36:44 PM
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Not sure what you mean by decline, but in Montgomery things are actually looking up, and I give credit to Bobby Bright for some out-of-the-box thinking and actions. There is now a downtown restaurant and entertainment district that is quite pleasant to visit, where 10 or 15 years ago you didn't go unless packing. One of those ten pennies per dollar goes to repave streets, and as a result Monkeytown is in pretty good shape in that department. The old projects are being razed and people being moved into better digs. The corridor from I-65 to Maxwell AFB, once a figurative cess pool, is undergoing quite a transformation.
Fortunately Montgomery hasn't suffered the gross corruption that Birmingham endured....but Montgomery has an ace in the hole, State Government, that can't afford to have the kind of shenanigans going on the Bham experienced.
Been in Montgomery (County, the city limits literally splits the middle of the road in front of our house) for over 20 years now and things are definitely better now than when we moved here
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wix
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4/11/2012 10:52:24 PM
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Montgomery's past plight sure helped populate Wetumpka, Prattville, Pike Road, Millbrook, and East Montgomery County. I agree the city has cleaned up the downtown, but have tax paying folks started moving back into town. I watched Mr. Bright chase Walmart East and circle them into Monkeytown city limits, before Pike Road could get organized, so he'd be sure to get that 10% tax for Montgomery.
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MartiniMan
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They have a choice
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4/12/2012 10:21:32 AM
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If people don't like the taxes they can move to the burbs or another nearby city without high taxes and refuse to shop inside the city limits. That should send the message to the citizens (especially the business owners) of the city that they may have elected the wrong people, and if not, then they deserve what they get. Now if the federal gov't does it our only option is to leave the country, which is exactly what many businesses are doing.
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MrHodja
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4/12/2012 11:48:57 PM
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I'm not sure that Montgomery's experience is unlike any other metropolitan area. Folks like to be out and away from the hubub...and it is definitely cheaper in those locale....not necessarily because of taxes, but land values, cost of labor to build and so forth. The Montgomery sales tax is about a penny or penny and a half more than those other places....and I'd be willing to be that folks who chose them over the city did it primarily for other reasons, although the sales tax surely was a factor.
I happen to reside in Montgomery County, completely surrounded by the city of Montgomery, because of what I consider a wise move on the part of Montgomery to annex acres and acres of farm land east of the city limits (it doesn't count against the black/white ratio if the only residents are cows) . That is where the population is moving and where the future tax base lies. I live in a strip of about a dozen properties, and we have united: Bring us city sewer and we will agree to be annexed. City hasn't agreed to our terms yet, and that is OK with me.
I do enjoy going downtown to Dreamland for some ribs and a beer!!
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