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Name:   water_watcher - Email Member
Subject:   Unions complain about CEO pay
Date:   4/19/2012 12:44:28 PM

Pay for S&P 500 chiefs climbs 14%: AFL-CIO

They need to understand supply and demand, as well as what education gets you.  They choose to do what they do ... what does the pay of an individual factory worker have to do with the CEO pay of the top 500 largest comanies in the world have to do with one another.   If the factory worker leaves, there are 200 or more ready applicants that could fill the job.  If the CEO leaves, it takes months for a job search for the reight experience, education, qualifications, personality, leadership, etc, etc. ... going through multiple interviews, etc.  

What is happening to this country ... we have a president that will sue our states, ignores the constitution, apologizes for america, is anti business, anti success, has 50% of wage earners not paying taxes and creates class warefare on the small majority that achieved success like it is a bad thing when they pay more of the tax bill than ever in history.  And what Oblamer proposes, while it gets him press, would do nothing in terms of solving the problem HE created.  Total additional taxes would pay less than 11 hours of what the government spends.

We need a leader, not a con artist.

By Ronald D. Orol
Apr 19, 2012 11:48:46 (ET)

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- The average pay packages for the chief executives at a majority of companies in the S&P 500 was $12.9 million in 2011, an increase of 14%, according to database of compensation packages for executives released Thursday by the labor union AFL-CIO.

The increase wasn't as significant as it was in 2010, when the average pay package of a majority of CEOs at S&P 500 companies was $11.4 million, an increase of 23% from 2009. The AFL-CIO surveyed 300 companies both years.

The ratio of CEO-to-worker pay between the majority of CEOs in the S&P 500 and U.S. workers widened to 380 times in 2011, up from 343 times in 2010.

In 2011, average worker pay totaled $34,053, the AFL-CIO said.





Name:   blmeanie - Email Member
Subject:   Unions complain about CEO pay
Date:   4/20/2012 7:14:46 AM

the "packages" usually are heavy in stock and options, which provides appropriate incentive for the CEO to LEAD the company to success and growth.



Name:   Lifer - Email Member
Subject:   Unions complain about CEO pay
Date:   4/20/2012 8:37:13 AM

What a joke when you look at union 'leaders' pay.  A CEO must earn any money they are paid.  Union leaders just take theirs from the folks that actually do work.



Name:   water_watcher - Email Member
Subject:   Unions complain about CEO pay
Date:   4/20/2012 10:07:04 AM


exactly .... yet they want to compare a factory worker pay to a CeO, like they should increase at the same rate. 

I am so tired of this class warefare, when the beauty of this country has been freedom of choice.  People make choices to go to college, take up a trade, etc.   There are many reasons for that choice, but it is a personal choice.  Just because someone is smart and chooses a path in to management (which the pyramid is very small at the top), and a select few get there due to their education, capabilities and accomplishments ... it should not even be a discussion point, let alone a comparison to a factory worker.

Oblamer is trying to paint success as a bad thing, and just because someone is successful, somehow they should pay even more in taxes so people that chose a different path do not have to pay any or so the government can develop more give away programs to those that made bad decisions or have chosen to do nothing with their life.

My life as a child was very humbling ... but I never felt anyone owed me something, I worked harder to have more than I did as a child and provide for my family.  That is why I feel so strongly that Oblamer is wrong in his spead the wealth ... others may have made different choices than I, but that does not mean they should be entitled to a larger share of my success. get their butts off the couch and make something of your life ... what is stopping them other than their personal choice not to.








Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   Freedom Of Choice WW
Date:   4/20/2012 6:31:06 PM

A perfect example of Water Boy's freedom of choice is an interesting program in New York State where the recipient has to make an economic freedom of choice decision between a sure bet and a roll of the dice. The New York State Medicaid Incentives Plan, which will begin piloting interventions in New York City and western New York, will focus on quitting smoking, lowering high blood pressure, and managing diabetes or preventing its onset. New York hopes to enroll more than 18,000 adult Medicaid beneficiaries; its program will provide direct cash payments or lottery tickets as incentives. Incentives are not restricted to the CEO but trickles down to Medicaid recipients. Free enterprise at its best which should make Water Boy proud to be an American and MM proud to be supporter of leeches through high productivity.



Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   Rather Nice Increase
Date:   4/20/2012 11:12:44 PM

Google awarded Schmidt a compensation package valued at $101 million last year, according to a Friday regulatory filing. The amount is 322 times higher than the $313,219 package that Schmidt received in 2010 during his final full year as the Internet search leader's CEO.



Name:   buzzbuster - Email Member
Subject:   Rather Nice Increase
Date:   4/21/2012 1:31:42 AM


 I don't have as much as some and more than others but I don't want someone else getting what I have worked hard for unless I give it myself ! What I do have I want my kids and grandkids to get if anything is left after Oblamer gets his stealing hands out of it. I don't think it's right to take away from anyone just because they have more than someone else does no matter what the amount happens to be. I also think that some need to pay back if they have taken when it is not deserved. What about you gonecrazy I mean fishing?



Name:   water_watcher - Email Member
Subject:   Rather Nice Increase
Date:   4/21/2012 8:59:54 AM

Jellyfish, What is your point? Do you feel that is wrong? The BOD approved, the shareholders approve and if they dont can sell the stock, he pays taxes on it ... so what is your point?

Jellyfish, your posts make no sense. Like the one above, it is totally off topic and what is your point and how does it relate to this thread.

I know it is difficult, but rather than look for some random item to post ... try thinking for yourself and either agreeing or disagreeing and saying why ... as everyone else does.

Now I understand why you support Oblamer... you just want government to think for you and spend your money for you.




Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   Hey Mr Water Boy
Date:   4/21/2012 12:46:33 PM

"Now I understand why you support Oblamer... you just want government to think for you and spend your money for you." You got that wrong. I just want the government to spend YOUR money NOT my money for My entitlements. You need to be more productive by staying off the forum during the day.



Name:   water_watcher - Email Member
Subject:   again ... you don't answer a question
Date:   4/21/2012 2:16:11 PM

You prove over and over you can not think for yourself and answer questions so simple even your pea brain should comprehend them.








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