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Name:   water_watcher - Email Member
Subject:   archie
Date:   7/1/2012 9:29:22 AM


So if Oblamers policies are so good ... why has nothing worked?   Less people working today than when he took office.  Higher poverty, more foreclosures, less than 2% growth (held up by the federal reserve printing money), double the deficit. 

Do you even realize that if you took 100% of the income of the top 10%, 100% of the profits of the fortune 500 ... you still would not pay for even 1 year of Oblamers spending and he wants to spen more.  

Food stamps recipients have more than doubled, gas prices still 2X when he took office, GM is closing US plants and expanding in china (with tax payer money).  

Minority unemployment nearly double.

I could go on ... but what is it that you see that is so good that makes you a loyal supporter ... other than your ignorance.





Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   Get Serious
Date:   7/1/2012 12:02:26 PM

Stupid, putz, liar, loser…you two, unable to present a concise logical argument, always resort to name calling. Are you aware that the Food Stamp Program, administered by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, is proud to be distributing the greatest amount of free meals and food stamps in its history? Meanwhile, the National Park Services, administered by the U.S. Department of the Interior, posts signs throughout the National Parks requesting that we “Please Do Not Feed The Animals”. Their stated reason for the policy is because the animals will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to take care of themselves. Sure hope they never merge the two departments.



Name:   MAJ USA RET - Email Member
Subject:   Get Serious
Date:   7/1/2012 12:43:35 PM


Somebody needs to ‘splain that to GF. (LMAO)





Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   WW...naughty naughty
Date:   7/1/2012 1:06:29 PM (updated 7/1/2012 1:21:32 PM)

Failed to check your facts again

1/    There are more private sector jobs today than on Jan 20, 09.  There are about a quarter a million less jobs today if you count the 600,000 public sector jobs lost...thought we were doing GOOD when we cut govt jobs.

2/    You are going to have to site some credible source (not Glenn Beck, Limbaugh etc) for your 100% tax on the top
10% / Fortune 500 claim...Man, with the top 10% having almost 50% of the private income and the Fortune 500 making alltime record profits, if Uncle Sam took it all that would be LOTS of money!

3/    You may be right on food stamps but what can you expect with this horrible "Oblamer" economy.  Gas is still twice what it was when Obama took office and still $0.80 / gal less than what it was in March and still $0.90 / gal less than the highest level when W sat in the White house...nope, not blaming W nor giving Obama credit...just setting the record straight.  When will we learn that it is not political talking points but the market (including speculation) and international conditions that determine the price of oil?

4/    GM is in fact (NOW IN 2012) expanding in the US  AND expanding in China.  Neither is with taxpayer funds. I know you hate it, but GM is alive and Osama is still dead!

5/    Minority unemployment is double overall unemployment (in fact it is 2.5 times white unemployment) and that is, sadly, the way it has been for decades.  Minority unemployment is NOT twice what it was on Jan 20, 2009!

I could go on but why should I...you would still hate the President of the United States.



Name:   water_watcher - Email Member
Subject:   why do you set yourself up ... stupidity?
Date:   7/1/2012 2:51:51 PM


1.    My statement is correct.

2.    I have posted the video before and would be happy to post again.

3.    You are right the Oblamer economy is bad, very bad.  He would rather do more social programs, stealing from others, than do the RIGHT things to grow the economy and work with businesses.  It is clear he is anti business … when he talks about restoring  the middle class, what he is really saying he wants to destroy wealth creation, limit what people can make, so everyone is about the same.  That way the government is in control and not the private sector.

-   Gas has gone down slightly since the economy is weakening, not because he did anything to promote more drilling … he still wants wind mills and solar panels.  BTW, yet another Obama (tax payer) funded solar plant went under.  This one was only $20 million pissed away.

4.    Did you not watch the video in the own words of the CEO that China is his focus and not the US and sees growth of the company coming from China as US operations shrink.   They still owe the American tax payers $80 billion dollars … it is just in the form of stock held by the US government.   So they are using tax payers money.

-   Yes OBL is deal … very good thing.  But just read, it took over a year to make the decision and Valerie Jarrett wanted it called off for political reason.   I praise Hillary and Panetta for this moving forward.

5.    Agree that minority unemployment has been historically higher … they point is that it has grown even more under Oblamer … even though he is supposed to be the savior of minorities.  The fact is he wants to keep them down, feeding on the government nipple and keep voting for the hand feeding them.  It is so sad.





Name:   water_watcher - Email Member
Subject:   GM video (China Motors)
Date:   7/1/2012 2:54:05 PM


http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=Lvl5Gan69Wo




Name:   water_watcher - Email Member
Subject:   Liberal argument ...
Date:   7/1/2012 2:56:47 PM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWHgUE9AD4s




Name:   water_watcher - Email Member
Subject:   Who pays the taxes?
Date:   7/1/2012 3:03:01 PM

http://www.american.com/archive/2007/november-december-magazine-contents/guess-who-really-pays-the-taxes






Name:   architect - Email Member
Subject:   Liberal argument ...
Date:   7/1/2012 3:05:15 PM

WW
You will forever be relegated to ignorance as long as you only use rightwing clap trap to justify and explain  your crazy hatred of Obama.



Name:   water_watcher - Email Member
Subject:   Obama's anut
Date:   7/1/2012 3:05:44 PM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iLcCeSUU8g




Name:   water_watcher - Email Member
Subject:   taxes to pay Obama's deficit for 1 year
Date:   7/1/2012 3:07:52 PM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY8LKII_MNA




Name:   water_watcher - Email Member
Subject:   Liberal argument ...
Date:   7/1/2012 3:14:58 PM

no ... you are just one of the "shut up" liberals.  You refuse to accept the truth or anything that counters your point of view.  You just proved it.   You are presented with facts and this is your best response ... yeah but .... so funny.  





Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   [Message deleted by author]
Date:   7/1/2012 3:16:49 PM (updated 7/1/2012 3:17:18 PM)




Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   Poor WW Has No Friends
Date:   7/1/2012 3:18:06 PM

It's Sunday and you should be out enjoying the time with your friends and family. Rather, you are sitting there trying to go back into the history posting lies from 2007 when your boy Conservative Bushie was POTUS. GM has gone to 3rd shifts and overtime to keep up with demand rather than additional plant capacity. Building plants in China makes sense since the cars are for the Asian market. Do you have a similar problem with Hyndai, Kia, Subaru, BMW, Mercedes and Volkswagen building plants in the US to be near the market? You need a course in Economics 101 since you ain't making no sense.



Name:   water_watcher - Email Member
Subject:   you are the strangest person
Date:   7/1/2012 3:26:04 PM


You have no idea what I am doing ... and what are you doing ... the same.  



Name:   water_watcher - Email Member
Subject:   why do you always stick your foot in your mouth?
Date:   7/1/2012 3:38:19 PM


I am starting to think you can't read or understand basic facts ... I certainly do not have an issue with a US company building a plant in China or any other country.   I do have a problem with a US company taking a bailout using tax payers dollars, then using those dollars to invest in a communist country as they reduce jobs, close plants, dealerships, etc in the US.  

Just watch the video.  It is in the CEO's own words.  

Now stop wasting my time.  




Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   Het WW Be Careful Of The Big Foot
Date:   7/1/2012 4:05:05 PM

Where would you suggest they build cars for the Asian market? Typical right wing rhetoric. Give us the solution. I would like them to build and ship to China but not profitable. You obviously have a problem, with the concept of a profit. You seem to justify Bain shipping jobs out of the USA by Romney as good business. All you can do is post meaningless U Tube videos that some right wing nuts email you. You need to be more original to be taken serious. By the way, I am impressed by all those trips to China. That added a lot to your Forum resume. OBAMA IN 2012



Name:   water_watcher - Email Member
Subject:   Jellyfish
Date:   7/1/2012 5:00:43 PM (updated 7/1/2012 5:03:52 PM)


Since you can not think for yourself ... I have no intention of doing your thinking for you.

I guess my asian trips are another thing you can log about me for your man crush.   Although you challenged that before when I made a trip to Korea.

Just remember ... I am more than willing to always back anythink I post ... I do not need to lie as you do and have proven over and over again.  It is so sad you were such a failure in life that you have to lie. 

As I have said many times, you are pathetic and I truely feel sorry and pitty you.  

And you are so proud of Oblamer, but have never been willing to say why ... another hopeless follower, but can not even articulate why ... I guess you have always been a follower, so it just works for you.  

You seem so confident that Oblamer will win in November ... I have offered a wager ... you pick the amount.  If you are so confident, you can pick up a few dollars.








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