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Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   Watch Your Wake Campaign
Date:   7/23/2012 12:03:48 AM

http://www.alexcityoutlook.com/2012/07/17/watch-your-wake-campaign-raises-awareness/



Name:   Kizma Anuice - Email Member
Subject:   JOKE
Date:   7/23/2012 6:34:39 AM

Haha



Name:   CenturyCC - Email Member
Subject:   Watch Your Wake Campaign
Date:   7/23/2012 9:18:01 AM


Wonder where we could get one of those signs?



Name:   ecstasypoint - Email Member
Subject:   Watch Your Wake Campaign
Date:   7/23/2012 9:22:08 AM

I would think calling Lake Martin Resource Association would be a good start on getting a sign.  If we make it worth their while to produce and distribute the signs, I'm sure this could really have some educational value.


Watch Your Wake campaign raises awareness

Published 2:23pm Tuesday, July 17, 2012

By A.J. Watson, The Outlook Staff Writer

Stemming from a conversation among representatives from all the state’s major lakes, the Alabama Marine Police has adopted a Watch Your Wake campaign.

Lake Martin Resource Association and several other organizations met in downtown Alexander City in February to discuss the major issues concerning the lake population of the state, and boat wake issues were at the top of the list.

“The marine police studied what was being done on lakes across the United States to find out what they were doing to combat the issue,” Charles Borden of Lake Martin Resource Association said. “There were a lot of different approaches the lakes were using, and the marine police in Alabama decided to approach it from an educational awareness standpoint.”

Borden said that LMRA will be canvassing private marinas on Lake Martin to see if they would place a sign with the Watch Your Wake logo on their boat ramp. LMRA will also be providing signs for homeowners to place on their pier for boaters to see.

Capt. Erica Shipman of the Alabama Marina Police said that the Watch Your Wake campaign extends statewide to all public lakes and rivers to educate vessel-owners and people who use public waterways.

“This campaign is really designed to educate the public on watching their wake and the damage it can do,” Shipman said. “A lot of lakes have been experiencing issues with this. It’s a public safety concern – we met with a lot of lake associations and looked to see if there needed to be some legislation, and we wanted to do an awareness campaign before having to go to legislation.”

Shipman said that they aren’t trying to spoil the fun but rather inform the population and encourage them to be more courteous boaters.

“We’re not trying to stop people from skiing, tubing or wakeboarding or having fun in general – we’re just asking them to do it safely and not do it too close to other people or other peoples property,” she said.

In addition to soil erosion, wakes can cause docked boats to bang against each other, cracking the fiberglass and creating thousands of dollars worth of damage, Shipman said.





Name:   Kizma Anuice - Email Member
Subject:   Do you really think
Date:   7/23/2012 9:56:40 AM

Do you really think that putting a sign on your dock is going to stop anybody from making a wake? How foolish and deluded can a person be. If a guy in a boat is so stupid that he can't figure out that he is making a wake, and that the wake is going to be a problem for somebody and further that  the larger the wake the larger the problem,  then, a SIGN ON YOUR DOCK IS NOT GOING TO MAKE HIM SMARTER.  Nothing fixes STUPID.

Probably the only thing the sign is going to do is make him come close to the dock and slow down to see what the sign says,  thus making wake problems for you worse.

PEOPLE DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR STUFF.   99% of the people riding  boats on this lake do not have homes here.  At least some of them are bitter about the fact that home prices are so high and that the affordable homes are being demolished to make way for the unaffordable.  They don't like you,  they don't like your big house, and they don't like your dock and your boats.   They wish that there 1972 piece of junk boat would make you go away.

Things in this country and in this region in particular have changed.  You are not admired if you work hard and acquire wealth and its trappings.  You are despised.

Who like hedge fund managers and Wall Street elitists?  Look at the faults they are finding with Romney.

And furthermore, putting swimming buoys out in front of your property just encourages some people to drive between the   the floats and shore just to show you that you have no rights but they do. 

The real solution to this and most of the other problems on the lake could be resolved by incorporating a "LAKE CITY"  a good portion of the tax money, and the majority of the residential property tax is collected on lake related property.   These funds instead of going to the rest of the county or counties and cities could be funneled into resolving lake related problems. 

Just think if these monies were used for lake patrols, sewage systems, road improvements etc. howmuch better off all of the lake residents would be.

Why do you think things are so much better in Mountain Brook than in the rest of Jefferson County?
The Brookies figured this out.  They spend there tax money on themselves, the the "great unwashed"

Boat permits for lake Martin would be a good start.   It could be a sticker that had to be on the dash of each boat, and could if you like say 'WATCH YOUR DAM WAKE"  





Name:   ecstasypoint - Email Member
Subject:   Do you really think
Date:   7/23/2012 10:34:34 AM

I agree with you KA.  Every time I have said something about lake behavior I am told either just talk to the person or just accept it because it will never change.  I do not agree with either one of these responses.

Almost every time I have addressed a rude boater rationally I have been flipped off and dock-buzzed worse than before.  I think the problem you highlight is coming to blows.  It is excelling out of control.  Every year we home owners are asked to endure more and more nonsense to the point that we cannot even expect to sleep in our own homes (right 1 am er?).  The stereos are getting louder and the complete lack of consideration for another person's home is more outright. 

This lack of consideration is blooming in every corner of our society, sometimes erupting into unbelievable crimes. Anyone who thinks we live in isolation from the anger and chaos in American culture is a fool. 

But I do not think it is foolish to put out a sign that is a permanent gentle reminder that someone does live in this house.  Then when people do what they do, it is clear what their intention is.  The scab will blow off this blister one day.  So we should make an effort to have a conversation before it is too late.



Name:   bama dave - Email Member
Subject:   Nothing fixes STUPID
Date:   7/23/2012 12:50:14 PM

You're proof of this Kisma.



Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   Do you really think
Date:   7/23/2012 2:26:20 PM

Agree to a point but it may help with some of the more clueless who don't intend to do harm but also don't ever bother to turn around an watch the boats and floatng docks pitch up and down and back and forth when their wake reaches them.  For those who purposely create a wake in retribution for the sign I suggest coming out toting and using a video camera.  Most of those who'd create a wake on purpose probably are too much of a coward to be accountable for their actions.  If it is egregious enough, email the video to the Marine Police along with the boat ID decal letters and numbers.



Name:   ecstasypoint - Email Member
Subject:   Do you really think
Date:   7/23/2012 3:04:46 PM

Just curious Mr. Hodja, when you say come out "toting" do you mean toting a gun?



Name:   Summer Lover - Email Member
Subject:   Not a chance
Date:   7/23/2012 3:05:40 PM

Toting your pet beaver...



Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Watch Your Wake Campaign
Date:   7/23/2012 3:25:13 PM

Sounds like a good way to increase awareness and may help. Will be interesting to see how many people put them out and whether they are mostly placed in sloughs or some of the folks on big water put them out. Good for the former and a waste of time for the latter.



Name:   Kizma Anuice - Email Member
Subject:   Video
Date:   7/23/2012 3:41:49 PM

I am curious. Has anyone done a video an sent it in? If so did it do any good and what was the ultimate outcome? I have a hard time believing that the authorities would do anything unless you are Saban or Chisick or Al Sharpton.



Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   Do you really think
Date:   7/23/2012 4:29:07 PM

No,in this case I meant carrying a video camera....and then using it to record the miscreants.  Knowing they are on candid camera will usually shoo them away; if it gets the opposite reaction and they come ashore, then "toting" in the "biblical" sense might be in order (I say biblical because my wife keeps a snub nose 38 in a bible box....:>)



Name:   Zman - Email Member
Subject:   Do you really think .. Yes I do
Date:   7/23/2012 8:07:27 PM

At least it is a start.  We had a "newbie" in our slough this weekend on his first outing on the lake in his new boat and his new home.  He came out and drilled holes in the slough for 45 minutes towing his new tube with three passengers.
 He obviously had not a clue about wake consideration.  We got beat up pretty good.

Had he seen a sign it MAY have influenced his behavior.  Jus' sayin'.

I want one of those signs, LMRA!  Even if it doesn't do any good, I would feel better!

Zman



Name:   wix - Email Member
Subject:   Interesting
Date:   7/23/2012 9:51:51 PM

Especially when you consider Russell Lands, aka LMRA, sold most of the large offending boats, and many of the wake boats that create the problem. Conscience? Nah, no way.







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