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Name:   MAJ USA RET - Email Member
Subject:   by the numbers
Date:   8/5/2012 10:30:36 AM

N = 131,000,000 and n = 1111

 

The House of Representatives has 435 seats apportioned to the states by population.  Montana and Wyoming each have 1 seat… ( 0.2% of the representation for each ).

 

If you are representative sampling the nation, you would be basing the political bent of, say, Montana on 22 persons. But, you would represent California ( 53 seats = 12% ) by 135 persons.

 

The electoral College is 408 votes apportioned to the states.  Montana and Wyoming each have 3 electoral votes… ( 0.3% of the national representation for each ).

 

If you are representative sampling the nation, you would be basing the political bent of, say, Montana on 33 persons. But, you would represent California ( 55 electoral votes = 13% ) by 150 persons.

 

You can see how the results get skewed.  The larger more liberal states dominate the electoral college whereas the less dense, but more conservative/independent, states must vote as a block… or get rolled under.

 

Regardless of the outcome of the electoral vote, The Constitution was designed to protect the rights of the political, racial, cultural minority… whatever.  BUT WAIT!  The Constitution has, by now, been warped and discounted so much that it fails to protect MINORITIES of any ilk.

 

So… the entitled masses can vote themselves benefits and privileges at the expense of the producers.  Herein lies the failure of our nation… by the numbers.





Name:   MAJ USA RET - Email Member
Subject:   by the numbers
Date:   8/5/2012 10:32:33 AM

PS:  Goofy started yawning on the first line... we lost him there.  He doesn't do numbers.



Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   by the numbers
Date:   8/5/2012 12:11:32 PM

I follow your logic but question the number of 408. The electoral college has 538 not 408 members. One for each member of the House plus one for each Senator plus 3 for DC. 435+100+3=538 So, yes I am yawning as you lost me, not on the logic of your argument. but the simple use of 408 vs 535. Can you explain what I am sure is a logical basis for the difference?



Name:   MAJ USA RET - Email Member
Subject:   by the numbers
Date:   8/5/2012 1:59:08 PM


You are correct if you add in the undecided states.



Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   by the numbers
Date:   8/5/2012 2:16:46 PM

Just think, out of 129,391,711 votes in the 2008 election, if one candidate won every state by one vote they would have won the popular vote by a mere 50 votes but won the electoral college 538-0.



Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   by the numbers
Date:   8/5/2012 3:55:40 PM

"The Constitution was designed to protect the rights of the political, racial, cultural minority" Explain who the racial minorities were that the founding fathers were protecting???????????



Name:   wix - Email Member
Subject:   GOOFY and MAJ
Date:   8/5/2012 5:51:28 PM

We thinks both ya'll is in way over ya'lls haids!



Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   GOOFY and MAJ
Date:   8/6/2012 2:02:10 PM

Sorry we lost you Wixieee, Will dumb down future posts just for you.







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