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Name:   Mack - Email Member
Subject:   Question about Unemployment and Welfare
Date:   9/8/2012 6:25:40 PM

Times are bad. Folks who really want to work cannot find it. Ultimately, some of these folks land on welfare rolls. Many, many of them have been "downsized" by companies trying to survive the current plague.

My Question?? In the last 30 years, I would like to know what per centage of folks standing in the unemployment/welfare lines are Civilian, non-military, "Downsized" US Federal Government Employees????
Simple question. Non-partisan.



Name:   Lifer - Email Member
Subject:   Question about Unemployment and Welfare
Date:   9/8/2012 6:53:49 PM

Can't remember where, but I read in the last day or two that the government employee unemployment rate is only 5.1%.  How that is calculated I have no idea.  Not sure this answers your question, but thought I would pass it on.  I am sure the report can be Googled.



Name:   Mack - Email Member
Subject:   Question about Unemployment and Welfare
Date:   9/9/2012 5:17:36 PM

It's just that for the life of me I cannot ever remember when a work unit of the Federal Gov. has been shut down and employees given Pink Slips. I also don't know a single person (or heard of same) who was a Fed Employee and got laid off. Not absorbed and moved down the hall,, but Laid Off.
And I would bet that the 5% mentioned above includes Fed Contractors and Temps.
Just my cynical side bubbling.



Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   Question about Unemployment and Welfare
Date:   9/9/2012 7:26:02 PM

Reagan fired all the striking air controllers who were federal employees.



Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   Question about Unemployment and Welfare
Date:   9/9/2012 7:59:51 PM

That took 8alls.  They didn't believe he had the cajones to do it but he did.

Reagan was enough of a wild card that the rest of the world respected our willingness to back up our promises with action.  Ask the Libyans, they found out first hand..



Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Unique situation
Date:   9/10/2012 9:28:24 AM

ATC employees are essential and cannot go on strike. They did so and for that they were fired, and rightly so. Totally different than your average run of the mill fed employee.



Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   Unique situation MM
Date:   9/10/2012 2:43:55 PM

 Glad you clarified it. I never realized it was no big deal...just carrying out the law.  That didn't take cajones...



Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   Still took guts
Date:   9/10/2012 3:15:25 PM

because of the replacement of ATC employees. Recall the gloom and doom prognosticators of planes falling out of the sky as a result of his decision. His risk was more political and wasn't an easy one....just the right one.



Name:   MrHodja - Email Member
Subject:   Unique situation MM
Date:   9/10/2012 3:44:05 PM (updated 9/10/2012 3:45:55 PM)

Really?  You conveniently forget that the Air Traffic Controllers felt that they were indipensible and that Reagan wouldnt have the 8alls to fire them.   Considering all of the potential ramifications....especially where safety of flight might be concerned, the easy way out would have been for him to knuckle under to their demands.  Reagan was a leader whose courage and willingness to do the right rather than the easiest far exceeded that miserable excuse who occupies the White House now.







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