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Summer Lover
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Republican comments?
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9/19/2012 9:25:12 AM
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OK, so Republicans complain about deficit spending, yet are wearing the magnetic strip off of the credit card at the federal level, now we break open the piggy bank at the state level to pay day-to-day expenses and PROMISE to pay it back --- sometime. Why should I vote for Romney instead of Gov. Johnson - at this point with either the Dumbocrat or Republicant political BS, we are headed to the same place...
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MartiniMan
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A vote for Johnson is a vote for Obama
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9/19/2012 9:41:55 AM
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Its that simple. Johnson can not and will not win. As distasteful as it is you have to take the lesser of two evils. You could wish all day long it wasn't true but it is. Romney/Ryan are not perfect and in fact no candidate ever is. But they are the significantly lesser of two evils and voting for a 3rd party candidate in this election is a wasted vote and in fact will help reelect Obama.
I could wax eloquent all day long about why this policy is better than that one or why Romney is more qualified, etc. but none of that matters. There is no doubt in my mind that if Romney wins he is going to do some things that will be maddening and infuriating. I completely expect it to happen. But he will also do some much needed things to get the government out of the way of the private sector so the economy can heal and he will reduce the deficit spending and if Ryan has any influence on domestic economic issues they will begin to address the entitlement train wreck that is rapidly approaching. No guarantee of success on all these fronts but there is one thing I can guarantee you with 100% certainty, Oblamer will do none of these things and when he is free from the specter of another election he is going to go wild implementing his liberal, socialist big government wet dream and it will destroy this country.
And those that decided to vote for a 3rd party candidate with no hope of winning or sit on their hands and don't vote because Romney wasn't the perfect candidate or wasn't their choice will be just as responsible as someone who pulled the lever for Obama. This is exactly what the Dems are trying to do, dampen enthusiasm by making this about a choice between two candidates instead of what it should be, a referendum on the fecklessness and failed policies of TOTUS. Please don't fall for that strategy!!!
And by the way, I am an American first, a social and fiscal conservative second and being Republican is a distant third and only because it is the only party that comes close to my political beliefs that can actually win.
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A vote for Johnson is a vote for a healthy America, a vote for O or R is simply a vote for whether you want to get to this country's downfall fast or even faster... I agree with Romney on most of his comments about the 47%, and KNOW that number is growing by the day. The vote yesterday is just another indication that the Republican leadership is pandering to the 47% and Government employees.
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MartiniMan
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No
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9/19/2012 10:20:44 AM (updated 9/19/2012 10:32:04 AM)
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I'm sorry but as infuriating as it may be, Johnson has zero hope of ever winning so a vote for him is a wasted vote because he will not win and therefore can do absolutely nothing to implement his agenda. In order to do that you have to win and he will not win.
And if you truly don't think there is a difference between Romney and Obama you are just wrong and the last four years should be all the proof you need. I understand your angst with the GOP and I share it. But I am not going to let the pursuit of perfection get in the way of progress, especially at this point in time because after another four years of the worthless one we may not be able to recover.
I can tell you GF, Archie, coppertop are loving every word you write because they know its true. Just like I encouraged the environmental wackos and anarchists to vote for Nader when he was running a 3rd party campaign. You know the only other place they could possibly go with their vote was to Algore and just enough of them voted for Nader so he didn't win. I understand and appreciate your frustration and anger but a vote for Johnson is a vote for a sure loser and one less vote for the only candidate capable of defeating TOTUS and restoring some sort of fiscal sanity, even if not what you and I both want. I am not trying to minimize your anger and frustration because it is totally justified. But you can't let that get in the way of doing what is best for the country and has the best hope of turning things around.
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au67
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Republican comments?
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9/19/2012 10:37:18 AM
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Summer, the most important thing facing America right now is the defeat of Barack Obama...another four years of his presidency will destroy this country as it was constitutionally founded. Voting for Mitt Romney is the only way to accomplish this. Mitt may have a few warts, but Obama is a socialist cancer that will ultimately kill the USA.
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MrHodja
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No
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9/19/2012 11:00:34 AM
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Have to agree with MM. A vote for Johnson may make you feel better this go-around, but how will you feel when Oblamer gets reelected and your vote might have made the difference?
And, on a similar, but still different subject, I don't think the audio tape of Oblamer saying he believes in redistribution is going to cost him many, if any votes because his constituents WANT redistribution.
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Summer Lover
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Actually
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9/19/2012 11:04:36 AM
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I am convinced that O is Marxist.
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MartiniMan
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Yes and no
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9/19/2012 11:17:41 AM (updated 9/19/2012 11:26:06 AM)
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There may still be some Independents that are on the fence that this will impact but at this point not many. I actually find it quite ironic that Romney pointing out the obvious is somehow worthy of the kind of attention it is getting but when you have the govt media all in for Obama they will seize any bone they can get and grind on it for all its worth.
By the way, Mark Levin had a great piece about this in National Review online that I highly recommend. Very good deconstruction of the issue and I am of the opinion that this is actually an opportunity to reach some of that 47%, I also like the way they have quickly responded to it and simultaneously released the audio about Oblamer letting his true beliefs slip out about his desire for redistribution.
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MartiniMan
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On this we agree
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9/19/2012 11:19:34 AM
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Hope I didn't get your dander up but you asked for a response and its what I truly think from the bottom of my heart. I did not vote for Romney in the primary here in Georgia (was a Santorum guy) but he is the nominee and I have sent him the max I can to help him defeat TOTUS. It has to happen for all our sakes and for our children and grandchildren.
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Summer Lover
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On this we agree
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9/19/2012 11:50:19 AM
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You do not get my dander up, I am really just trying to get feedback - exactly what I asked for. Although in all likelihood, I will AGAIN mark the R spot for President, I am at a loss why both major parties seem content to destroy this country economically. Both parties are buying votes, and with 47% not paying income taxes and so many Government employees, we as a people are screwed.
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MartiniMan
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I hear ya
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9/19/2012 11:57:25 AM
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and agree that accepting the lesser of two evils is a bitter pill to swallow....but swallow it we must even if it is just for incremental improvements instead of real, long term solutions. We may just have to accept that deToqueville was right that the main weakness of democracy is that people eventually realize they can raid the treasury with their votes. Our system of government and our unique American spirit always held that at bay but with the sorry state of our education system and the left successfully letting no good crisis go to waste we have seen that erode over the last several decades to a point where it may not ever return.
You know, in most European countries the most highly desired and sought after jobs are with the government. We didn't used to be that way but we are now rapidly approaching that same situation. So maybe we can't stop it altogether but we have a moral obligation to do what we can to slow it down. Kind of defeatist but that's about the best I can muster in these dark days.
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roswellric
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One word
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9/19/2012 3:11:41 PM
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Morality.
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wix
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Alabama voter?
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9/20/2012 10:08:08 AM
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Go ahead and vote for Johnson if it'll make you feel better. Alabama will go Romney by 60%. If you're from Ohio, let's talk.
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Summer Lover
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Yes
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9/20/2012 10:31:36 AM
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Good point.. :-)
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